subpoenaed rudy giuliani. this investigation is moving fast. so many people close to the president have been named or tied to the scandal. you say that we're not just looking at a lawless president but a lawless enterprise? what do you mean? >> look, i think early in the trump presidency he was surrounded by what we used to call the adults in the room. john kellily, mcmaster, and jeff sessions. mike pompeo owe was considered one of them. those people are gone now. and we transition into another phase in which there were acting officials in the positions. it was nebulous. there were people who wouldn't participate in the trumps worst but didn't have the grav tas to stand up to him either. now i think we have entered into a new phase the revelations of