but clearly it's obvious in these phone calls that he was undertaking with the president of ukraine, with the prime minister of australia, probably also with the crown prince of saudi arabia, with president putin of russia -- those are some of the phone calls that we understand have been placed into the code word system where it's hard to get at them. i think the reason why that's happened is because it's clear that the president is not pursuing foreign policy or national security. he is basically pursuing campaign business. in the case of the prime minister of australia, he was clearly encouraging the australians to cooperate with attorney general barr, who was undertaking this politically motivated probe to essentially prove that trump is right when he says he was the victim of a political witch hunt in the russia investigation, that this was a vendetta against trump by the obama administration, by the fbi, by the deep state, what have you. i mean the attorney general is trying to prove these crackpot conspiracy theories, and trump is urging our foreign partners