july 25th call. specifically what were they concerned about, greg? >> well, before the call, there were a series of removal of the american ambassador to ukraine in may. i mean, that is one of the starting points here, but things continued from there and there were officials inside the white house who were watching rudy giuliani go on cable television interviews and describe his plans to meddle in american/ukraine politics. and then you had ambassador sondland insert himself and assert that he was now in charge of this relationship at the behest of the president. and in our story today, we reveal a lot more about an event that happens at the white house in july that really upset and disturbed a lot of people. it was an event where sondland, the eu ambassador, basically