involving ukraine. and it's not hard to see why. giuliani getting too hot to touch with the arrest and indictments this week of his two associates who were helping him try to dig up dirt on joe biden in ukraine. but now they are charged with violating campaign finance laws, accused of funneling foreign money into u.s. elections. and to make matters worse for giuliani, the two men were arrested while trying to board a flight to europe with one-way tickets. and giuliani himself is a subject of that federal investigation. just moments ago, "the new york times" reporting he is being investigated for breaking lobbying laws in his dealings with ukraine. the president immediately putting distance between himself and rudy following those arrests. >> i don't know those gentlemen. i don't know. maybe they were clients of rudy. you'd have to ask rudy. i just don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy about it. i don't know. i will say this. from what i heard -- i just heard about this -- they said,