incredible. so you're right about that. i don't think there's any disputing that. you mentioned a very dramatic new development when ambassador taylor testified that one of his aides -- the aide's name is david holmes -- overheard the restaurant phone call between ambassador sondland and president trump. the aide asked the ambassador what the president thought about ukraine, and sondland said the president cared more about the investigations. that is a whole new line in the investigation now, right? >> well, that's right. and of course it raises more questions about the completeness of ambassador sondland's testimony. you know, he already had to -- had to correct it once. this is an important conversation. this is just the next day after the famous phone call that president trump made to the president of ukraine. and here you have a person talking directly to the president. and by the way, this witness, mr. holmes, heard the president's voice. this is not hearsay. this is not secondhand.