the day they heard a sad story of the president abusing his office for the worst reasons, his own shaby political interests and jeopardizing our national security. it was, i think, a devastating day of testimony for the president. >> they're backgrounds and they are very credible. so you're right about that. you mentioned a very dramatic new development when ambassador taylor testified. the aid is david holmes overheard the phone call between ambassador sondland and president trump. the aid asks what the president thought about ukrain and sondland said the president cared more about the investigation. that is a whole new line in the investigation, right? >> that's right. and of course it raises more questions about the completeness of ambassador sondland's testimony. he already had to correct it once. this is an important conversation.