but the trump character was alive and well at the time of the american revolution. somebody with blarney and salesmanship. those characters have existed forever. >> no quid pro quo. >> whether you think donald trump is guilty or innocent of high crimes and misdemeanors. the under lying questions today are exactly what the founders were concerned about. >> what if a president has lied, what if a president works with a foreign power. or made money off the office. that president should be removed. >> very good report. presidential historian joining me now. we saw him in the story. good evening. looking at the intelligence committee report. when you think about the founding fathers what are the concerns they would have about the president's conduct and behavior? >> about everything with donald