from that moment of this interaction between him and the colonial, i started to think hang on a moment, haven't i been wrong? >> he was mandela's personal assista assistant. >> those from the previous regime, from the clax government he called them and said to them, i know that you are afraid. i know that you don't know what to do, whether you should leave or join my office. stay in my office and help us. but i really need all of you, black and white and people from the previous regime and the newcomers to support us in achieving our goals for this pr presidency and that made people feel safe. people had a choice whether they wanted to stay and after a few months, they could clearly see what his agenda was for the presidency, unity and reconciliation. >> a defining moment of that presidency would come during the 1995 rugby world cup.