where the pay was the same. but that might be inaccurate. >> it might be inaccurate. and i can't confirm it either. but the bottom -- maybe he didn't have the medical benefits that would allow him time to get treatment for his illness if indeed this was a treatable illness. but that could also factor into this young man's tragic end and people's -- >> so you look at this -- i guess the question is if the airline knew that lubitz had had an episode of severe depression let's just talk about pilots in general. les is saying that would be a disqualifying factor here domestically. do you think it necessarily is or it's an indicator that someone would do something like this? >> i don't think it necessarily should be. i think we should be very careful at this point at completely blasting people who are suffering with depression because i think it's something