and to computer security experts that's not really separating network networks. >> what do you think, david? you've taken a closer look into this? >> i have. one of the things that bothers me most about this is that the idea of the software network, the software firewall versus hardware firewall. first of all, flight management computer system is not part of the network we're talking about here. i've gone to boeing and studied what boeing does i've taught avionics on the aircraft i know how it's wired and, in fact i've taken the siisp course the certified information security specialist program, and so in my knowledge, there's no possibility that this could occur. so -- but then backing up from that as well from tamperring from the fire detector on an aircraft you can go to jail for that. the fact that he took this on his initiative and didn't go through the proper channel to report what we thought was a