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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 August 25, 2017 04:00:00

Green writes Candidate Trump seemed indifferent but changed his mind when he tried it out in a speech in January Of 2015 and the place went nuts. The u. S. Economy may hinge now on a throwaway catch phrase that just happened to catch on. More from cnns sarah mur rich. Has the white house offered any more information following the president s threat about shutting down the government . Aside from what you saw from Sarah Huckabee sanders today, they havent really given us an indication of why the president decided this is something he would be willing to shut down the government over. They also didnt offer any real explanation as to how he squares and acts like this with what you showed was a regular campaign promise. A notion that this wall was going to be built and american taxpayers wouldnt be on the hook for. Since he became president , the president of mexico has made one thing very clear to President Trump. Theyre not paying for that wall. The last time the government shut down was 2013. What happened if the administration follows through with this . The republicans are urging the president not to move forward with a plan like that. They paid the political price for this in 2013. They led to the Government Shutdown and the headlines were brutal and they came out every single day, stories about preschools that were closed, kids that couldnt go to preschool, programs that doled out formula for infants for lowincome mothers. Soldiers were killed in afghanistan who came back to the United States and their families couldnt get death benefits and couldnt get the government to pay for their funeral costs. Thats the tiny sample of what happens when you shut down the government. Thats the reason theyre telling the president , this is not going to go over. Joining us to talk about the wall, and mexico not paying for it, is jorge ramos. Hor ray, for this president who ran on the whole idea that mexico was going to pay for the wall, to now be talking threatening to shut down the u. S. Government, should congress not provide funding for the wall, i mean, that is a huge flipflop. Its a big change. But i think President Trump hasnt told the truth to the american people. He has to tell the people that on january 27th, according to the washington post, he had a conversation with Mexican President. President pena nieto told him many times that mexico is not going to pay for the wall. And then President Trump said, according to the transcripts, that he preferred that this was not going to be discussed in public. Unfortunately for nieto, he didnt agree to that. Right from the beginning, mexico said they were not going to pay for the wall. Thats where we are right now. And on the other hand, the wall is really a stupid idea. Because theres no invasion coming from mexico. The undocumented population has remained stable for over a decade. Over 45 of undocumented immigrants come by plane or with a visa. Even if you have a big, beautiful 20 billion wall, its going to serve no purpose. If is interesting that in that call with the Mexican President , that the president had, as you said, leaked to the washington post, the transcript of it, President Trump seemed more concerned about the mexico president just publicly talking about mexico not paying for the wall, saying it would look bad for President Trump. He seemed almost more concerned about the optics of it, and sort of the political ramifications for him. Exactly. It was a matter of perception. And he even threatened president any eta. He said. There will be problems with the trade between mexico and the United States. Thats where they are right now. Theyre negotiating the deal. The fact is that mexico from the beginning, everybody knew, i knew, that mexico was not going to pay for the wall. That was done during the campaign. Now President Trump has to tell the truth. The president s supporters will point out that crossings, across the southern border, have dropped dramatically, apprehensions have dropped dramatically since President Trump took office. You and i have talked about this before. I think in the past you said fear works in stopping people from coming across. Does the president deserve some credit for using the bully pulpit to reduce people crossing over . I would say two things. First of all, fear works, yes. I think President Trump is incredibly unpopular in america. Among some of the most hated people in latin america might be President Trump and sheriff arpaio. On the other hand, it was before President Trump arrived to the white house when we saw a declining in the number of mexicans coming into this country. So much, that right now, more mexicans are leaving the United States than coming to this country. It is not entirely because of donald trump, but yes, i have to admit that the number of immigrants trying to cross illegally from mexico to the United States has been reduced, of course. In the president s speech, you mentioned joe arpaio, he spoke about joe arpaio in his speech in phoenix, strongly suggesting that he will pardon Sheriff Joe Arpaio, or the former sheriff, who we should point out, his immigration crackdowns led to a federal conviction for federal contempt of court. If the president does pardon sheriff arpaio, it certainly played well in the crowd in phoenix. Im wondering what it says to latinos across the United States many who see arpaio as a Lightning Rod in immigration issues. First, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not another fine person. Sheriff arpaio violated the constitution. Sheriff arpaio discriminated against latinos. Sheriff arpaio has been accused and Proven Guilty of racial profiling. In other words, hes been accused and Proven Guilty of racist behavior. Its also startling to many people hes talking about pardoning joe arpaio just days after drawing a moral equivalence between, you know, neonazis and those who were protesting against them. I mean, how much moral capital has he lost, do you think, in the recent days . Well, a lot. You know, we are not the problem. It is not the it is not us that we are making up things. Here we have a precedent when the past has made racist, sexist and xen ohphobic remarks. This is a president who equated white supremacists to those protesting racism. This is a president who described very fine people, those marching with neonazis. So clearly, the problem is not with us, it is with President Trump. You know, ive been hearing people saying that hes unfit to be president. And that he shouldnt be in the white house. Well, in a democracy like ours, the one who wins the election, stays in the white house, and he won the election. But im getting ready for four years with President Trump. But this means also that we as journalists, we have the responsibility to call him out if he lies. And he lies a lot according to the washington post, more than 1,000 times since last january. We have to say hes lying. If he makes racist statements, we have to say hes making racist statements. The deal is this, when in doubt, more journalism. If he attacks us, then more journalism. Thats what we should do. Jorge ramos, appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Just ahead tonight, call it republican warfare, sism and what it signifies when it comes back. Update on the White Nationalist when he was armed to the teeth. Well, cried a lot when facing the consequences for his hateful acts. There are 24 hours in a day. Tempurpedic helps you get the most out of every one of them. Only proprietary Tempur Material precisely conforms to your body. You get up to twice as much pressure relieving power, so you wont toss and turn. 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I think thats a ridiculous and outrageous claim. Plenty of complaints that the president is alienating some of the people he may need to make his presidency a success. I want to talk to former obama Senior Adviser and Campaign Adviser jason miller. Jason, Sarah Huckabee sanders saying corkers statements were ridiculous and outrageous. The comments came from a sitting republican senator in the white house. I wish they had picked a bigger fight here today. This really goes to the culture war that i think helps sweep President Trump into office, where you have the washington elites on one side and the rest of the country on the other side. Look, In Washington, if they dont like the way that you talk or act, or you dont sit around all day studying roberts Rule Handbook of order, they start launching these vicious attacks against you. Im not saying President Trump is immune from criticism, not at all. But theyre attacking the stability or competence, or comments like fitness, this is making it a personal attack well above and beyond. I think these its important to keep in mind that President Trump, not only defeated the democratic establishment in the general election, he also beat the republican establishment in the primary. So this really sets up Whats Going On here. Now, we do have to bring it together because we do have republican majorities in both the house and the senate. And i think this is pivotal as we head into the fall. The Folks On The Hill need to get with the program and get behind our president. Van, is this just a problem of washington no, its sad to hear him say that. Somebodys got to be able to give the president real feedback here. I think the problem you have now is anybody who gives critical feedback automatically becomes a part of the establishment and therefore, you dont have to listen. Bob corker is not a part of any establishment that you would be against. He is a im from tennessee. Had eis a strong conservative, but also a nononsense commonsense kind of conservative which we used to celebrate in america. Hes basically trying to give the president some honest feedback. You have somebody trying to give president some feedback and say, listen, youre not meeting the criteria yet. This guy now gets thrown under the bus . If corker is not conservative enough and doesnt have the heartland credentials to critique the president , nobody does. Bob corker wasnt insulting, going out of his way to insult the president , i dont think. Do you think he was . Do you think his critique was that harsh . He was essentially saying that it was kind of a gentle critique, if anything, saying the president hasnt yet done this. And more in sorrow than in anger, and in grief than attack. Jason . Anderson, i think i viewed it a bit differently and i think a lot of Trump Supporters did as well. It didnt seem to be, say, a criticism of a specific issue or maybe criticism of particular remarks. I think it was in the wake of charlottesville, i think thats what the general time frame was. But the way that the remarks were delivered seemed to be an overall rebuke of President Trumps character. Thats the way that it came across to me. If Senator Corker didnt mean it that way, he should clarify that. That is definitely the way it came across. Putting all that aside for a moment, heres the bottom line. For the past eight years or so, ever since president obama came into office, and the democrats were in control and republicans got both chambers back, weve been wanting to pass tax reform. Weve been wanting to repeal and replace obamacare. We now have a president in the white house who will sign all of those. So republicans need to pass these bills, they need to get it done, get it to the president so he can sign it. These are all things as republicans weve been running on for years. Now weve got to go do what weve been promising to do. Van, has the president helped that effort to get those things done by going after certain senators . What he said makes perfectly good sense. The president has been doing everything but focusing on tax reform. Hes been tweeting, kind of like apologizing for, you know, weird nazi stuff. The president has not done himself a good service. I think thats what youve got people like corker listen, i would vote against corker 12 times a day if i could. Im no fan of corker. But corker is saying, you are letting us down. His surrogates amplifying that. Not doing Character Assassinations against corker. One more thing to say is simply this. If the president were as focused on this tax stuff as were talking about, the new cycle would be totally different. And corker would be applauding him. Corker would be the main one saying, thank you very much, sir. You just validated corkers concerns. Update on americas most famous weeping White Nationalist. Talking tough in charlottesville right after the melee that killed heather heyer. I would say it was worth it. We knew we were going to meet a lot of resistance. The fact that nobody on our side died, id go ahead and call that points for us. The fact that none of our People Killed anybody unjustly i think is a plus for us. And i think that we showed our rivals we wont be cowed. Well, its easy to talk tough about not being cowed when youre surrounded by your fellow fans of fascism. Not so easy to talk tough when a few days later youre back at your home, wanted on several felony charges, youre scared and youre lonely. Thats when Christopher Cantwell turned on the camera and began sniffling about his fate. The whole entire point of this, im watching cnn talk about this as violent White Nationalist protests. We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful. You know . What options do we have left. If somebody would like to inform me of that, then i will be grateful to you. I really will. Christopher cantwell turned himself in last night. Today was arraigned on two counts of illegal use of tear gas. Bond was denied and a preliminary hearing set in midoctober. A lot more ahead tonight. The president also went after James Clapper today. In a moment, ill ask former cia Michael Hayden what he thinks about this, did clapper go too far or is he spoton. Hurricane harvey heading to the texas gulf coast. The latest on when it may hit, where, and how hard, when we continue. Its the sears semiannual Blowout Event save 10 to 70 off on all clothing and shoes. And up to 70 off on outdoor life for him and simply styled for her plus hot deals on jeans for kids, starting at 8. 99. Hurry sale ends september 4th. Theso when i need to book tant to mea hotel room,tion. I want someone that makes it easy. Booking. Com gets it. And with their price match, i know im getting the best price every time. 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