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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 August 13, 2019

Supremacist violence and the president declared there were very fine people on both sides the night of a torchlit march chanting jews will not replace us. Lets remind us how the presidency sees himself on the issue of race. Im the least racist person there is in the world as far as im concerned. Before and since hes run for president and this is the reason according to a president ial advisor who spoke to the Washington Post and im quoting, the president views the characterization largely through the lens of politics. D a Visor Private conversations saying trump feels the charges are an attempt to discredit him not like more than a dozen women that accused him of Sexual Misconduct or the investigation into election interference. In other words, according to this unnamed aid. The president is just as innocent of race sism as Sexual Misconduct. Its right on the money because its something people on the left and right would completely agree with for totally opposite reasons. But it also fits the world view of this president when it comes to facts inconsistent with the image he wants you to see. Just remember, what youre seeing and what youre reading is not whats happening. That was the president a year ago on criticisms of his handling of the economy but it is a fair estimation of his attitude toward any criticism when it comes to actions and rhetoric involving people who arent white. Thats when he tells four congresswomen of color to quote go back to where they came from even though they are americans and three are from the United States. That he says isnt racist. Call the black majority district of baltimore call it a disgusting rat and rodent infested mess isnt racist and attacks the judge for Trump University over mexican heritage and says he cant be unbias or takes out newspaper ads for five black youths wrongly convicted of rape and not apologize for doing so, none of that is racist according to the president or what about the invasion from mexico . This is an invasion. When you see these caravans starting out with 20,000 people, thats an invasion. Were on track for a million illegal aliens trying to rush our borders. It is an invasion. You know that. You look what is marching up, thats an invasion. A usa today reports of the 64 rallies trump held since 2017 when discussing immigration, the president said invasion at least 19 times. The far right loves that word, too, when talking about ingra immigration. The New York Times says its favorite word of a lot of media types on the right. The eloque paso shooter talked t invasion. The far right and shooter had a shared vocabulary of intolerance that stokes fear on immigrants of color. This is not to say President Trump or anyone on the far right is responsible for the el paso shooting. Only to ensight danger in echoing this language because when you make it okay to talk about invasion or send people back to where they came from, people are bound to pick up that message. Send her back obviously and importantly, omar has a history of launching vicious, antissemitic views. Send her back send her back send her back send her back send her back that was the president immediately cutting off that chant as he said he did. As a result of all that went on for 13 seconds, as a result of this, at least one former top aid of the president had enough. Anthony served 11 days as White House Communications director and he and the president are facing off over twitter. He told my senior colleague john berman today i think you have to consider a change at the top of the ticket when someone is acting like this, in ref praner to President Trump. The president tweeted he had nothing to did do with my election victory is upset he is not wanted back in my Election Administration which he desperately wanted to be. Also, i seldom had time to return his many calls to me. He tweeted back mulbull bulge i most anti american thing in the u. S. Time to call in a good relief pitcher. P po podus is lost. Thank you for being with us. Im wondering just on the issue of racism, in the past you said you believe the president is not a White Nationalist or white supremacist but you made the point hes making a play consciously using some words, is that right . Hes playing to that audience for political reasons . Yeah, hes trying to be too cute by half. Hes luring that out there. He wants that out there. At the end of the day he treats everybody like objects. He doesnt see color but a potential transaction, opportunity or detriment. Thats not racism. That might be narcotic sis sis m m. Its a worse level than racism. Its racist against everybody. He could careless. Youre an object in his way for or against and hes got a playbook. Hes using it on me now. The playbook is let me intimidate. Let me bully. Let me say stuff. I mean, you got to think about this guy. Hes using the american presidency and the twitter feed from the american presidency to go after his fellow citizens from the white house, from the presidency, right . So you guys just think about how disturbing that is and so for me, you know, hes talking about other people being unamerican and have to go back to places where they came from and stuff like that. Hey, mr. President , youre being unamerican. Bullying is unamerican and in the meantime, the first lady who is a very nice person, shes got this Anti Bullying Campaign going on and hes lighting up and personalizing this. Anderson, i have five children. This guy is trying to put me in harms way on his twitter feed as hes done to other people. Im not saying im being singled out. The reason hes doing it is not because of me but to scare those people on the hill that hate his guts. They are up there looking at each other shaking their head. We got to wait him out. Its either 15 months or five years, they hate his guts. He knows it. They know it but they are afraid to speak up. What he does is uses the twitter feed they are not profiles as a speed bump to stop everybody. John kennedy wrote three books and said the smallest book was profiles and courage because its hard to have it. Its not easy to be in the line of fire of the president of the United States. He knows that. But, you know, look, its disgusting at this point. You brought up three or four things. What triggered me the most was the send them back nonsense that is literally a racist troeb for t two centuries. Everyones parents that have an ethic background, i said im still supporting you. Youre doing a lot of good things. Why do you want to go full on race sism like that and divide country . The first thing the country is united, youre the president of the United States and leading the free world the thing and the thing about send them back, that is something used against irish immigrants when they came, against everybody. Germans, everybody, japanese, i mean, its it is the oldest racist trope there is and for the president of the United States to be saying that and encouraging the chant is stunning and people think its become normal but it is not normal. But its not normal and just speaking personally, my grandmother was told that, produced three children. One was my mom. Two served in world war ii. One was on the normandy beaches and one fought at the battle of the bulge. Did you want her to go back . These are american heroes, okay . She worked very hard as a made and in the hostess laundry to help me get the lifestyle i have now. Anderson, its ridiculous. Here is the thing. My fellow republicans have to wake up out of their slumber, a true demagogue doesnt want one si si out of line. Thats not the ice king or whatever the guy was. Sorry to interrupt, were on a satellite so its hard with the technology. Go ahead. There is a lot of people listening tonight that say i was going to promote one of your hbo properties again. There is a lot of people watching tonight that will say i agree with what youre saying, but they would say to you where have you been . Youre just coming to this realization now. Hes been bullying people for a long time very and hes had the cabinet absolutely fair. He had the cabinet sit around and praise literally have them go around praising loyalty. All the trump sure ra gets on, if they say one thing, he gets upset with them. Thats a fair criticism of me. I have to own that. I wont deflect that or make up excuses but what i would say to your viewers, i grew up in a neighborhood in a blue collar family and the president s promise on the campaign was related to helping to provided a va kas advocacy for those people. I should have been more attuned to that. People want to criticize me for speaking out now. Thats legitimate, but there is others that feel that way and they dont have the courage to speak out, so what im asking them to do is think about it. When you go to bed tonight and youre thinking about your country, dont focus on your wallet or your pocketbook. Focus on whats right for america and say is this guy normal . Is this the right way to handle things in america . I think when you do that, youll get to the place where im at and by the way, it will take awhile for a lot of these people that like the president. I understand that. But this is not the right guy for america. I believe in the Republican Party and republican values, and we got to fix the party. So we need a new leader at the top of the ticket that can bring people together, that can speak with the right rhetoric to people and also explain to people that were going to do this together. All of our problems in the country, were going to fix and solve together. But i mean, i know the policies are better on the republican side for the most part. Im socially progressive but im saying, we can do this, anderson. I want to bring up the ice king. Remember the scene in the game of thrones. All the dead zombies evaporate. Thats where we are now. We have to have an aria stark come into the room. Lets knock this guy off, okay . I mean politicallpolitically, o. Lets move him to the side. Had a good six innings. Hes throwing stuff to the backstop. He cant hit the strike zone and hes doing things that are classically unamerican like bullying his fellow citizens from the oval office on his phone. So let me ask you enough is enough. Lets move on from this now. Do you think this is i think youve used the word deterioration, i dont want to put words in your mouth. You talk about hes not, you know, i dont know the sports analogy because im terrible at sports, hes not doing as well. The fastball slowed down. Do you believe glasses fall down do you believe that is a degeneration of something in him or just politically hes mi misreading stuff . Its a combination of things. Okay . Its drunk on power as we know absolute power corrupts absolutely. Everyone is scared of him. There is nobody inside the white house giving him the right advice. You know i had my issues with general kelly. Let me tell you, this went way downhill after general kelly left. I subsequently made peace with general kelly, invited him to my conference and we did a 45minute interview and had dinner together and lunch and hes an american patriot. We buried differences but im just saying, after general kelly left, this thing is on a descending slope because at the end of the day, no one will he wont take anybodys advice and if youre a good journalist or great journalist, go ask people in washington who does the president listen to . And the truth, the honest people say nobody. He listens to nobody. But isnt this Republican Party now his . Isnt this Republican Party now his . Its not the party regan anymore. No, no, no, its like i told john berman, its like the green witch. Once you throw the water on the green witch and she starts melting, those soldiers cant hate dorothy, im sorry about this. We were behind the green witch because of her perception of power. Okay . If they come to him in a unit, they know im right. Okay . Trust me. They know im right. They are just afraid to say it. Because they dont want to get primaried and dont want to get Trump Twitter lit up like the big cyber bully he is. They dont want that stuff but they have to dig deep now and think about the country. Think about america. Everyone, every republican who has done that has left. Grandparents. I mean, every republican who has spoken out, decided they have to leave. Okay. Okay, so lets bring those people back and have another conversation with the people that are still in the party and say okay, come on, guys, you know this isnt right. We can come up with the right policies that can help the most americans live most people out of poverty. We can fix these asetrade dealsd reignite the great alliances around the world. We wont do it with this guy. Let me just i just got to ask go ahead. Hes getting worse. Let me ask you, i got a bunch of tvs in my office. Its your show, brother. I saw folks on fox talking about you. I clicked on the sound to hear it and they said Something Like basically, youre putting your finger in the air sensing which way attention seeker. Which way the wind is blowing and want to be able to go to cocktail parties in new york and thats why youre speaking out. I want you to be able to respond. Its super important to me. Im a blue collar kid that lives two miles from my parents. I dont go to cocktail parties in new york. I dont know how to find them. I live two miles from my parents and motherinlaw and take care of them every day. Its just that nonsense. They want trump to see them on television and say, hoh, thats good and hell Say Something nice about them and they will puff up their chest with this falseness. So thats a bunch trust me. Do you think i want to be doing this . I got a great family and a great business and i reconnected with my wife after the fiasco two years ago. Do you think i need to be doing this . Im worried about the country. If youre worried about the country and thinking about your ancestors that helped to build the country to get it to where it is now, you dont want it like this with this nonsense and this division. No. The president is giving people a license to hate, anderson, and a license to be angry about things when he should be uniting people. They can say whatever they want about me. I get that. Trust me, do you think i want to be doing this . Its not about getting attention but hey, guys, we got to wake up because were in a dangerous situation. The yellow light is on. It will go red. If he wins the next president ial election, look out. He hasnt listened to anybody in the first four years, what do you think will happen in the next four years . To me, i know they are with me. I just would like a few more phone calls. I got a tremendous number of phone calls today from people in washington outside of washington, there is tons of business cards in my hand here. Lets go. Lets break the fever thats going on in the Republican Party. Anthony scaramucci thank you. The president is raising attention on conspiracy theories including Jeffrey Epstein. Apparently he has time to do that and andrew yang on the campaign trail. He became emotional talking about gun control this weekend. Well talk to him in a moment. This summer at panera, were going all in on strawberries. At their reddest, ripest, they make everything better. 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