For the life of me i dont know why we have stigmatized vocational education. Hillary clinton has said that Barack Obamas policies get an a. One in ten people are not working or given up altogether. Thats not an a. One in seven people are living in poverty. Thats not an a. One in five children are on food stamps. That is not an a. It may be the best that Hillary Clinton can do but its not the best america can do. In addition to rolling back what president obama has done we need to do a top to bottom review of every single regulation on the books. We need to pass the rhames act so that congress is in charge. We have become a nation of rules not a nation of laws. And finally we have to hold Government Officials accountable for their performance. All of this has to be done and the citizens of this nation must help a president fiorina get it done. We must take our government back. Thank you. As a candidate whose brand has always been trust, are you worried your campaign, which youve always said, sir, is bigger than you, is now being hurt by you . First of all, thank you for not asking me what i said in the tenth grade. I appreciate that. Ill just forget that follow up. But the fact of the matter is, you know, what we we should vet all candidates. I have no problem with being vetted. What i do have a problem with is being lied about and then putting that out there as truth. There are more words in the irs code than there are in the bible and not a one of them is as good. For the 11 Million People, come on, folks we all know you cant pick them up and ship them back across the border. Its a silly argument. Its not an adult argument. All i can say is youre lucky in ohio that you struck oil. Thats for one thing. Let governor bush what happened to my question . Youre not going to have my back. Im going to have my back. Governor you should let jeb speak. Governor, governor. Hold on. In the state of ohio . The state of ohio we have grown 347,000 jobs. Our unemployment is half of what it was. Our fracking industry may have contributed 20,000. But if mr. Trump understood that the real jobs come in the down stream and thats where were going to get our jobs. Ohio is diversified. And false little things, sir, they really dont work when it comes to the truth. The fact is all im suggesting we cant ship 11 Million People out of this country. Children would be terrified and it will not work. Mr. Trump let me just built an Unbelievable Company wortsz billions of billions of dollars. I dont have to hear from this man, believe me. I dont have to hear from him. Mr. Trump, you, yourself the democrats are laughing. Because if republicans joined democrats as the party of amnesty, we will lose. And you know, i understand that when the main stream media covers immigration it doesnt often see an economic issue. But i can tell you for millions of americans at home watching this, it is a very personal economic issue and i will say the politics of it would be very, very different if a bunch of lawyers or bankers were crossing the rio grande or people with journalism degrees were coming over and driving down the wages in the press. I know that rand is a committed isolationist. Im not. I believe the world is a stronger and better place when the United States is the Strongest Military in the world. How is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the government . Are you talking about the military . How is it conservative to add a trillion dollars in military expenditure. You cannot be a conservative if you are promoting new programs you are not going to pay for. We cant have an economy if were not safe. There are radical jihadists in the middle east beheading people. A radical shia cleric in iran trying to get a nuclear wednesday. I believe the world is a safer i dont believe, i know that the world is a safer and better place when america is the Strongest Military power in the world. I dont think were any safer. I do not think we are any safer from Bankruptcy Court as we go further into debt we become less and less safe. This is the most important thing we are going to talk about tonight. Can you be a conservative and be liberal on military spending . Can you be for unlimited military spending and make the country safe . No. We need a safe country but we spend more on our military than the next ten countries combined. I dont want us to be bankrupt. Those are just some of the moments were going to be talking about with the candidates and the panel. Which brings us to the longest introduction in conversation. Amanda was the Communications Director for sarah and ted cruz and a friend of marco rubio. Don is a democratic strategist and Michael David axelrod, and glor gloria borger. What stood out tonight . Trump and carson nonentities in my view. That benefits ted cruz. It is a race among mavericks and establishment types. Cruz wins the mavericks contest. And marco rubio had a good performance tonight. I would agree with that. I noted in a poll this week, when you take carson or trump out of the race, rubio gains at least as much or more than does cruz and it raises the question as to whether he has the inside track because he can appeal more broadly across the fashions of the Republican Party . I think he helped himself tonight. He had a spirited presentation, new generation, he banged his themes and did his strong on defense pitch, which is something that is integral to his appeal. So i think he had a good night. Jeb bush had a good night too because he didnt have a bad night. His last debate performance was terrible. He came in with this debate coach and i thought he was fine. He wasnt memorable in terms of having any kind of knockout punch or any sort of home run but just by being steady and present i thought he was good. His answer on immigration was good. He benefitted from kasich who was fighting and on the immigration debate it was kasich who opened the door for him. And jeb bush with a strong follow up. What struck me tonight was the fact that these people dont like each other. It was extraordinary. We were all expecting carson and trump to go after each other. But you had kasich and trump you had rubio and paul going after each other. You had trump and fiorina. And i think trump was im going to disagree with michael a little bit. I think trump was more of a factor in this debate than he has been in past debates. He was on terra firma on the economy. But i do think trump kind of mix it up. I hope that people review the exchanges between the three senators when it comes to increasing which can tax credits and defense spending. This is the struggle between three approaches. Increasing it, a no and ted cruise says im more in the middle. This is what we need to debate on the economic front among the Republican Party and will be resolved in the primary process. Anna . People from texas should not try to list the departments they want to eliminate. Talking about cruz saying he would eliminate five departments and listed commerce twice. At least he got to four which is one more than rick perry could remember. I think it was a good night for everybody, including the moderators. It was a dramatic contrast from what we saw in the cnbc debate. It was a substantive debate. They stuck to the fiscal issues. I think that having eight people on the stage instead of ten made a big difference. And let me tell you something, i had my pope blessed rosary and thank you, lord, jeb bush showed up. Jeffrey lord . I think the most striking thing was listening to john kasich saying philosophy doesnt work when you run something. That in a sense is exactly what this argument is within the Republican Party. This is what went on in the house of representatives. You had people saying we have to governor. Which conservatives say we enlarge the government in one fashion or another. To hear kasich and ted cruz tried to draw parallel with him on that. Whether you would support a government that would let banks fail. This is a key component of this argument. What struck me on a day when thousands of people walked off their job demanding a raise, that the republican candidates are tone deaf. 7. 25 an hour. Where can you live in america on 7. 25 an hour. 17 million americans with health care and they want to repeal it and dont have a good program to release it . 11 million undocumented people in this country. Again, donald trump going back to the eisenhower days. I had so ask everybody in the green room. It wasnt putin. I mean, wetback were going back to a policy that was controversial. I thought it was a missed opportunity for the republicans. Jeb bush may not exit this week or next week, i dont think he has what it takes to win. Lets talk about jeb bush. Anna is relieved he showed up but did he do it enough . There were times it seemed like he was quibbling about not having enough time on the last debate. Did he seem Strong Enough . I thought he showed up and was able to answer substantive questions. But i dont think he engaged in the way that perhaps his supporters might have liked. He seemed shaky. A little uncertain. The stakes are immense in this debate. Everybody said you blew the last debate. If youre going to stay in this race you have to do well in this debate. Even president ial candidates get nervous, i think. I think his nerves showed. I think in each debate he tends to it be better as the debate goes on. He gets a little bit more comfortable. You saw in this debate he wanted to go after kasich in that first answer and cut him off and kasich ran right over him. But i thought he did get stronger as the debate goes on. And thats the argument for his candidacy he is going to get better as he goes along. Is it possible he is just not good at this . Yes. I dont know that hes ever going to be good at. This i think that john kasich came in energetically. He is going for independents in New Hampshire. But i think he completely shoved jeb out of the main frame here and became the main advocate for that point of view. There was this exchange with jeb bush and donald trump. It was one of the key exchanges. As far as syria, if putin wants to go in and i got to know him very well. Because we were both on 60 minutes and we did very well that night. You know that. If putin wants to knock the hell out of isis. I am all for it 100 . They blew up wait a minute. They blew up a russian airplane. He cannot be in love with these people. Hes going in and we can go in and everybody should go in. We cant continue to be the policemen of the world. We owe 19 trillion and have a country that is going to hell an infrastructure that is falling apart, our roads, bridges, schools and airports. We have to invest money in our country. Thank you, sir. Donald is wrong on this. He is absolutely wrong on this. We are not going to be the worlds policemen. But we sure be the worlds leader. There is a huge difference. Without us leading, voids are filled. And the idea that it is a good idea for putin to be in syria, let isis take out assad that is like a board game. By this definition, im close to putin because im on 60 minutes as well. I think Carly Fiorina seemed to interpret it i like russian vodka. That gives me some do you think jeb bush did enough . You know, the problem for jeb bush is 43 if i may be blunt here. When you leave as david is well familiar, when you leave the presidency in january of whenever 2009 with a 22 Approval Rating and your brother is on the stage saying lets do it again in essence on Foreign Policy that is a real problem. That is where donald trump strikes a chord. When randy kaye was interviewing evangelicals in iowa, these are full dimensional people and you ask them for concerns and it was the economy. And they kept coming back to donald trump. So i do think that comes together for a lot of people. Donald trump, i mean, it was telling because bush was trying to intervene to say youre wrong and trump was wrong. The russians arent trying to knock out isis. They are going after the rebels who are antiassad. So the theory was wrong. He said it with bluster and he said it with vigor but its just not true. Bush didnt really hit that point, really. That is a fundamental problem. All about jeb bush. Jeb himself has admitted hes not good at this. He is not a good debater or performer or entertainer. What i think people saw is a guy who is not defeated or giving up. Who worked hard as hell for the last ten days and he is going to keep fighting and trying and be focused and invigorated and go through with it. They saw a guy who is improving with each performance. I think that anybody who is a jeb bush supporter like me saw what they needed to see, saw what they wanted to see. Jeb bush stopped the bleeding today. The wound healed . No but the bleeding has stopped. The thing that gives people hesitation is that his answers, he kind of gets there and saying the right thing but his answers dont demonstrate a broad understanding of the issue. I go back to the question about regular tear reform. He gave an answer he would repeal all the rules proposed by the Obama Administration but he did not show an understanding of why it is an abuse of power. We need to go to that other step. When he made some of these answers like on the bank issue practically everybody else referenced his answer and agreed with what jeb bush said from kasich to trump to everybody on that stage. This was a good debate for him. It was a debate in his wheel house. These were financial and Economic Issues that were his sweet spot. I dont think it is the achilles heel of the last debate. The headlines tomorrow will be different for jeb bush. But rubio also had a good night. And that is a problem. Will there be a headline about jeb bush or will it be about other people on the stage . I dont think that jeb bush will be much in the story tomorrow. But amanda raised something interesting. You see the beginnings of an argument from the right against rubio that will be developed overtime, the argument on his which can tax credits. Rand paul made the mistake of including military spending in that answer and he gave rubio an opportunity to come back on that and ignore the other piece. But i do think ted cruz said hes a fine man, im a conservative and he is a moderate. The debate has just wrapped up in milwaukee. Last time around, the Republican Party came out blasting cnbc, joining us is shaun spicer. I imagine you are pleased with how the debate went tonight . Very much so. Tonight was about the candidates. It allowed each of them to talk about their issues. The solutions that they have for the problems our country is facing. It wasnt a bunch of gotcha questions. The viewers were informed about where they stand and what their vision is. What is the difference that there was only eight of them on the main stage . How big of a difference did that make . It allowed more people to get in. But the format was much better. The way the moderators approached it was better. They were focused on the economy and taxes and trade and veterans. Tonight was a home run. And it set the bar for debates going forward. Did jeb bush, do you think, he did what he needed to do tonight . Do you think he will still be, certainly front and center in this race next debate . Im not going to call balls and strikes, my job is to determine who did well and who didnt. I appreciate you trying. In terms of the next debate, do you want to see again a smaller stage, even smaller than the eight . I think what we have to do is set a reasonable limit that cnn will choose that ensures that the candidates doing well are on that stage. But we have done a good job in the Republican Party. Historically we have never had more than ten people on a stage at any one time. What this party has done is ensured that all the candidates have an opportunity to have their voice heard. I hope we can continue that. I appreciate you being with us tonight and congratulations on the debate. Not surprising that the rnc is pleased with the debate. Compared to the cnbc debate, the headline is not going to be about the moderators. A lot of the moderators said that is what they wanted out of the debate. This was a serious debate. There were no questions about fantasy football. Who knows how many people watched on a tuesday night with this kind of in the weeds policy discussion. But the rnc were going into this playing the refs before the very first question was about the minimum wage and thats what the answer was about. You can like or not like the answers but that was the question and that was the tone. There was nothing about comic book characters or that people were assaulting these people. This was about substance. The debate moderators should not be a protagonists. I think they did the right thing. Dan bell was a protagonist and it was ignored by every candidate on that stage. I think there was one exchange where i think they blew an opportunity. And it was the exchange where john kasich drew a line in the sand with regard to deporting 11 Million People. Jeb bush then came on that side of the fence and i was watching and saying, where is marco rubio and they moved on without getting rubio to have to weigh in on that. I wish they hadnt done that. I want to talk about ben carson a little bit. Lets play one exchange where he talked about the media. You railed against a double standard in the media that seems obsessed with inconsistency and exaggerations in your life story but looked the other way when it came to then senator Barack Obamas. As a candidate whose brand has always been trust are you worried your campaign which you have always said is bigger than you is now being hurt by you . Well, first of all, thank you for not asking me what i said in the tenth grade. I appreciate that. But ill just forget that follow up there. The fact of the matter is, you know, what we we should vet all candidates. I have no problem with being vetted. What i do have a problem with is being lied about. And then putting that out there as truth. And i dont even mind that so much if they do it with everybody, like people on the other side. But you know, when i look at somebody like Hillary Clinton, who sits there and tells her daughter and a Government Official that, no, this was a terrorist attack and then tells ever