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CNNW At This Hour With Berman And Bolduan November 26, 2015

Warnings. Now turkeys president says the country will not apologize. I think if theres a party that needs to apologize, its not us. Those who violated our air space are the ones who need to apologize. Our pilots did their duties which responded to the rules of engagement. I think this is the essence. Lets go straight to Matthew Chance live for us in moscow. This is a critical meeting. It is sort of wrapping up this worldwide tour meeting with leaders hollande has had from cameron to merkel, obama, new putin. What do you expect to come from the meeting . I think thats a really good point. Planned in the aftermath of the paris attacks and it came before the shootdown of that russian warplane by turkish f16s on the border. Its part of Francois Hollandes initiative to bring together a coalition to combat isis, the group, of course, responsible for the attacks in paris. To bring russia onside with the coalition, the western coalition, effectively, that is also carrying air strikes inside syria as well, to try to forge some kind of agreement, as to how to proceed for the future of syria. As you mentioned, its been made significantly more complicated by the fact a russian plane has been blown out of the sky by one of those coalition countries, by turkey. The russians have already said this was a preplanned attack. Theyve accused essentially the United States of being involved to a certain extent, saying that the u. S. Must have known or could have known that this attack was going to take place, this shootdown was going to take place. So, there was already no love lost between russia and the west, of course, over various instances and events that have taken place over the past couple of years. But this has made the situation a whole lot worse. Russia is currently engaged in a vitriolic war of words with turkey at the moment. Doesnt look good for a grand coalition to resolve the conflict in syria. Youve also got missiles moving now to the border. Youve got all of these economic sort of weapons, if you will, being deployed. Whether its russia limiting agriculture imports from turkey. Whether theyre going to limit this gas pipeline that is so critical. I mean, whats the end game with all of that . Reporter im not sure. Im not sure the end game has really been thought out at that point. Certainly theres been a lot of calls over the past 24 hours for there to be restraint on both sides, but that doesnt appear to be happening in the sense there is this quite bitter war of words but also the economic sanctions being formulated. Russian Prime Minister mef did he have has called on his Foreign Ministers where they can be implemented. Talking about the gas industry. Turkey imports natural gas, 3. 2 million russian tourists went to turk qul last year. So there are parts of the economy that will be hit by this crisis. Absolutely. Matthew chance for reporting for us. British Prime Minister, David Cameron, putting United Kingdom on alert, with a rue kneed British Military action of isis in syria. This time in the heartland, focusing on raqqah. Speaking in the parliament today, mr. Cameron said the United Kingdom simply cannot sit on the sidelines any longer. We shouldnt be content with outsourcing our security to our allies. If we believe action can protect us, then with our allies we should be part of that action, not standing aside from it. And from this moral point comes a fundamental question, if we wont act now, when our friend and ally france has been struck in this way, then our allies in the world can be forgiven for asking, if not now, when . Cnns phil black live with me now from london. Obviously, everyone there has been paying close attention to what cameron said today in parliament. You still have a British Public, like the american public, that is in large part exhausted from wars in iraq and afghanistan. Whats the public reaction to this plea, really, from cameron . Thats absolutely true, poppy. David cameron technically doesnt need the approval of parliament to do this but its a convention thats existed here, this practice of going to parliament, going back to the iraq war. The other legacy of the iraq war is a deep, fundamental distress of politicians saying, britain needs to go to war. Thats why David Cameron has to fight to make this happen. To win the support. There is enormous skepticism about doing this and about the possible consequences of doing this as well. I think the Prime Minister senses a change in the air. Hes been wanting to do this for some time. He knew he couldnt do it because he didnt have the support in parliament. Thats been changing following iraq, following the downing of that Russian Airliner over the sinai in egypt as well. These sorts of things all prove what the British Public do deeply understand. That is that isis poses a threat here in the uk, to their allies, to westerners around the world and so forth. In that sense, the argument isnt too difficult to make that isis deserves to be struck but whats the biggest plan . Thats the criticism of the iraq war. Not just that they took part in the conflict but it wasnt thought out. Particularly, the aftermath. What David Cameron tried to do today is explain to the politicians, the British Public, what he sees as the wider strategy in not just dealing with isis but syria as well. He has said the United Kingdom cannot, quote, subcontract its security to other countries. Thank you very much. Phil black live for us in london. Lets speak with Stefan Devries whos been with us throughout our coverage of the paris attacks. Cameron says he will not call a parliamentary vote unless hell have a clear majority of strikes in syria because he he says we will not hand a pr coup to isis. Does that argument have merit, do you think . I think he has a point. If mps vote in opposition of David Cameron, then isis could use this by saying, look, even the british mps dont want to destroy us. I think he has a point. He already tried it two years ago. Then the mps voted against strikes on syria. So he wants to be absolutely sure he has the support of parties in england. France, on the other hand, france doesnt need technical approval of the parliament, but last night the French Parliament voted in favor to continue the air strikes in syria with an overwhelming majority, just a handful of mps voted against. And i think David Cameron wants to be sure he can get the same support if he goes to war in syria. I think its interesting as we heard Matthew Chance to talk about and there is an exhaustion of the British Public to war in iraq and the United States in large part. Its different in france following the attacks. Reporter yes, absolutely. France did not participate in the iraq war in 2003. It was after the first ally of the United States to participate in the mission in afghanistan in 19 sorry, in following the 9 11. Its also very active in mali and other parts of africa. These are discreet praise operations. So the french are less reluctant than their british neighbors to participate in a new war. Theres also, of course, the feeling that france has been hit in its heart. The french want to end isis and then all means are justified. For the moment, Francois Hollande is having a huge support of the french population. It has to be seen if this support will last but for the moment he can go on with air strikes in syria. He has this huge support ahead of the elections in december, where weve seen far right conservative gaining momentum also in the wake of the terror attacks. Which way is the public leaning, especially on the terror front . Tif the president is in charge, first, the french will like that. Especially in an emergency situation like were living right now. There are Regional Elections in ten days and the big leader is marie le pen. She was doing very well in the polls before the attacks and now the last days she just keeps on winning more votes. Shell probably be the largest party. They say, well have to close the borders, get rid of immigrants. Were seeing the attacks on friday the 13th of november, it sounds cynical, but its good news for right wing parties and this shows the french really want a different approach than Francois Hollande has been doing the last four years of his mandate. Stefan devries live for us in paris, thank you. Coming up, we have breaking news from belgium. 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Lets go to Alexander Field outside the mosque in brussels. Do we know yet what was inside of them . Reporter we do. They feared it was anthrax but they later found out it was just powder after testing, which followed a robust response at the grand mosque. We saw fire officials, police, and another Law Enforcement that deals with explosives. All thronging the mosque after 17 people had been exposed to this white powdery substance. They were removed from the mosque and given medical treatment. They were decontaminated while we waited for test results. We find out it was, in fact, flour. It was found after it turned up here in a package that appeared to be suspicious to whoever they found it. They opened it up and thats when they found ten envelopes with the white powdery substance. They sparked serious concern. Emergency officials relieved this was not a threatening material. Absolutely. Especially given the highest terror alert going on in brussels. Right now, about 3 Million People enjoying the annual macys thanksgiving day parade. With isis releasing a new video taunting the west, threatening the west, president obama reassuring americans that there are no Credible Threats. Again, the United States at this moment and Law Enforcement and ready and waiting for anything. Lease talk more with cnn aviation correspondent, renee marsh. A source telling cnn today that more than 100 Public Transit workers in paris have left for syria since 2012. That is stunning. It is. And right here in the United States, poppy, there is this concern about that socalled trusted population. Were talking about individuals who have unfettered access to parts of the airport. They said their greatest concern is the insider threat. As it stands right now, all airport workers do not get screened when they show up every day for work. Thats an obvious loophole. Jeh johnson called for moran dom testing of these workers in airplane. That came after an Airline Worker was running a gunsmuggling operation, transferring hundreds of guns on commercial planes. As you know, pop y the terrorists only have to get it right once so even with these random checks, the fear is a gubman could go undetected. When you look at the Homeland Security report from june, its concerning about airports here in the United States because they found that 73 airport workers, Airline Workers in the United States, you know, at the time they checked, had ties terrorist ties. When you talk about travelers, im flying later today, what would you say to them . 73 seementz like a big number. We dont know the extent to which they were on a terror list, a nofly list, which presumably they werent or they had been on a bad website. Regardless, that is a bad number. Thats why youll see the department of Homeland Security focus on the trusted pool of people who have access to the airports. Its not just airports. Theres hundreds of Contracting Companies this are supporting airline and airport maintenance, food, luggage. And picking up on ray anyways point about foreign airports, i think what youll see in the next couple weeks in this discussion about the visa waiver program, about travelers who are able to come here with this special visa from over 30 countries. Youre going to see the United States begin to put carrots and sticks on that visa waiver program, i believe, and say, listen, have you to got to get your airports secure. Have you to do this random screening of trusted employees. And use programs that are cooperative as a way to get other countries to get very serious about airline travel. Renee, has anything fundamentally changed in the way our security is run . In the last year or so since this report came out or how tsa and checked and resourced . I want to say the head of tsa later on testified on the hill that essentially that i. G. Report youre referencing, after they dug deeper, they found there were these were not terrorists that made it onto the rolls. What has changed, i think the understanding has come out that tsa needs more access to all of these watch lists. That is something thats come out of this. The random checks, thats relatively new because we were talking about a population that were coming and going and had not been checked on a daily basis. Its not happening for everyone but now theres this unpredictability and it could happen. Theres a lot of questioning about the prettying process of these. Once theyre hired, what happens five years down the line . People to want see a more recurring background check to make sure someone hasnt become radicalized during their time at the airport. Were seeing subtle changes. Ive been talking to a lot of people on capitol hill who say theyre not at ease. They still feel there are several loopholes as it relates to this trusted population, poppy. 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