Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20180713

CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan July 13, 2018

Newspaper about the Prime Minister and her handling of brexit. I think the deal that she is striking is not what the people voted on. It is a much different deal than the people voted on. It was not the deal that was in the referendum. That sounds like a criticism. But the president today now calls reporting of his own words on the record fake news. Here is more again on brexit. As far as the advice, i did give her a suggestion. I wouldnt say advice. And i think she found it maybe too brutal. But again, here is what he told the sun before that. I would have done it much differently. I actually told theresa may how do it, but she didnt agree she didnt listen to me. That sure sounds like advice and suggestion. Whatever it is, so what now . Kaitlan collins is in london and joining me right now. So the uk, the u. S. , both nations waking up today with in news from the sun. What are they doing about it right now . Well, it is essentially a case of diplomatic whiplash. We just saw the president slowly try to back away from that blistering criticism of theresa may that he said in and on the record interview with one of the biggest british tabloids that dropped about 12 hours or so ago after the president has just left a obama dinner with the Prime Minister and he is insisting that he didnt criticize her even though he did and it was clear in that interview. The president saying that he doesnt criticize her plans for brexit even though he very clearly did saying essentially she wasnt listening to what the people wanted. He said that his suggestion that Boris Johnson one of theresa mays biggest political rivals who could very well take her job, his suggestion that he would be a good Prime Minister was unrelated to theresa may the Prime Minister. And saying that he thinks she is doing a terrific job as the Prime Minister. Which is just simply not what the president said during that interview. Of course there has been ton of blowback in response to that interview since it dropped. It caught white house officials off guard. They thought it wasnt posting until today and then it posted last night. Creating a bit of an awkward moment there. But certainly the president simply trying to back away from something that he said on the record and just cant back away from. But right now the president is he just finished up that Prime Minister. You saw theresa may also trying to down play at tension between the two of them during this trip. He is now going to go and have tea with the queen. But he is taking a medical copter there we should note and he is avoiding a lot of widespread protests happeningcor there we should note and he is avoiding a lot of widespread protests happening before he does depart a little later on this evening. Seeing some of the images from the protests as weve been talking. Thank you so much. So the president this morning called at least part of miss on the recocellaneos his o interview fake news. Saying it failed to include all the good things that he said about the Prime Minister. Listen to this. Fortunately we tend to record stories now. So we have it for your enjoyment if youd like it. But we record when we deal with reporters. It is called fake news. We solve a lot of problems with the good old recording instrument. The good old recording instrument. Here is Brian Stelter with more on this. So brian, it seems that the president s what he calls fake news is evolving starting from Anonymous Sources that he didnt like to now on the record on tape interviews that he gives. Only thing fake is his use of the term fake news. There is such a thing as fake news. Real stories that are made up, designed to deceive people. But now the president is talking about a recorded interview claiming that is fake. And this is one his favorite newspapers owned by rupert murdoch. Murdoch of course which controls fox news also controls the sun. So the president might have thought he was finding a friendly audience in this 28 minute interview, but instead he made a lot of news and a lot of embarrassing ways. And i think in his comments, some of which were misleading, some false, it is showing again how hard it is to twrrust this president which is a problem as we head into the summit with the russian president. But here is the sun reporter describing the reaction to the interview heard round the world. It seems a tad discourteous to drop that hand gra nature to your guest when your guest has gone out of their way to if a i will is at a time 1u67such a gr show for you. That doesnt happen for many people. So a lot of british politicians who are angry with the president and accusing him of showing bad manners. Coup for the report, big win for the sun oig. They have the u. S. President on the record talking this way. And as you were saying there is a tape of this. The sun has not released the entire tape, so it is quite possible that other points in the interview President Trump said flattering things about the british Prime Minister. That doesnt undo what he said. No, if he said i love your dress and hate your dress, i think you will remember the ugly part nap is the thing about the contradictions that we hear. It makes it hard to know when he is telling the throughout the a truth and when hes not. And i do love your dress. I felt like for your entire thing i was like oh, wait, no, i dont like you. Get off my set. Great to see you. Joining me is former British Ambassador to the United States. Thank you so much for coming in. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. I will not talk about your clothing choices. I do want to talk to you about in interview that the president gave with the sun. You cant undo or unsay what the president said in the sun interview, but you can always spin it. Is that what theresa may did today in the press conference . I think there was quite a lot of patching up going on. I think that trump and probably theresa may broke the ice between them with the beginning when he perhaps was surprised by the impact which the sun interview had had. Said im sorry about that i am sorry if it was hurtful and she dismissed it oh, well, that 1 just the media for you. And off they went and started discussing many of the issues that were on their agenda. But of course in his press conference with theresa may, he resaid in slightly more polite terms many of the things which he had said in that sun oig interview. So he is not particularly contrite about it and he didnt change his lines on immigration or the European Union or anything else or on Boris Johnson for Prime Minister about that but i think nevertheless that she will feel that the relationship was repaired, she will be pleased with how the press conference went. He praised her enormously for her job and how much they got to know each other and what a wonderful time he had with her over dinner the night before. So i think she will probably feel quite a lot of successful matchup givpatch up given that taken the position of not doing a love actually hugh grant moment and call him out saying this is not acceptable behavior from the head of state of my closest ally. I want to get to that one moment where you did see a real break between the two on immigration in a second. Let me add to the conversation cnns International Diplomatic editor nic robertson. Nic, this is though a kind of a consistent theme if you will that we see with President Trump. Walking in, shake things up, sometimes blowing things up when it comes to enter especially international meetings. And then when facetoface with another world leader, everything is great. What does that do to this relationship . Reporter you know, when you come in and you fire off so many barbs as he did, you cant pull them all back. They ricochet around and stick in people. There is immediate damage and there is a trail left after that that can have a damaging impact. I think what theresa may did was just lining out for us there essentially trying to patch it up, to staunch whatever damage had been caused to hold the political line, her political line, on brexit to try to continue to put that position forward. To try to continue to keep her party behind her, not to allow and give any momentum to the opposition in her party, which it seems very clear President Trump was trying to do. I find it hard to imagine a man who is both as familiar and knows the media as well as he does, a man who is widely believed when he was in the Property Development to have called up journalists and pretended to be a publicity person representing President Trump, he a very familiar with how journalism works. And for us to be asked essentially to believe that he was surprised at the way the headlines and lines of the sun chose, i think that is stretching too far for the Prime Minister as well. But she is focused on her own political survival that is in a fragile position this week. And so i think that is where we see the diplomatic high ground trying to patch things up. And at ambassador says, she will walk away from this today feeling that she is at least got things on track in the public domain. After all, it is the relationship between the two countries not between the two leaders right now that is most important. She wants to preserve that. This was always going to be a difficult visit. Thats what i was hearing from officials before, no one expected to be this rocky. So get it back on track, he will meet the queen shortly, he will go to scotland and play golf, he will leave and hopefully Collateral Damage or no more ricochets, no more damage, no more resonance that creates programs behind Boris Johnson and his supporters to put her off track for the brexit she is trying to deliver for the country. Rand bae and ambassador, the one issue where the leaders did offer in public their differences was immigration. Let me play for our viewers what donald trump told the sun that was why this was all brought up. I think what has happened to europe is a shame. I think the immigration allowing the immigration to take place in europe is a shame. I think it changed the fabric of europe. And unless you act very quickly, it is never going to be what it was. And i dont mean that in a positive way with. And he largely restated in a when asked about it at the press conference. But this is what theresa may said when asked directly about that quote today. The uk has a proud history of welcoming people who are fleeing persecution to our country. We have a proud history welcoming people who want to contribute to our country and contribute to our society. And over the years overall immigration has been good for the uk. Ambassador, what do you make of that moment . Well, i think we saw a bit of Donald Trumps strong views on immigration into the United States being trance posed trans to european politics. He was very rough on Angela Merkel animmigration. And one of 9d moof the most dis parts was to wind up people to believe all immigrants are bad. But they are fundamental for a functioning of the entire Service Industry of the country. And the suggestion that somehow leaving the European Union meant they wouldnt be welcome august or they that we wouldnt need that is many of those tryin to wind people up in too believing in brexit were trying to argue that the immigration problems were related to the European Union and they arent. And i think that 1 one of tis o unpleasant legacies for the campaign for brooeexit. And donald trump was tapping into that. And theresa may said that was not helpful. Ambassador, nic, thank you. So this is happening. All happening. And so is this what you see on the screen right here. Protesters hitting the streets in london, thousands are protesting President Trumps visit to the United Kingdom mocking him even with that gooif ballo about gooif balloon of what they are calling a baby trump. Important to note though trump will get nowhere near the protests. Nick paton walsh is among the protesters. What do you see and hear there. Reporter the protests have begun to end here and gather in their final kind of stance. And you can see the shear volume of people who have turned up. Estimates certainly in the tens of thousand, quite saefr to sfe that it has been organized, respectful. People addressing the crowd saying donald trump is a threat to world peace. And you can see hope friday tfu the more profane ones, but trump is not welcome, nobody likes you. And you areunconscionable. Not sure what that means, but a lot of people expressing their letting in many different ways. Racism, sexism quite extraordinary really. Wed normally see if there was a u. S. President like we have in the early 2000s the usual left wing parts of British Society opposing military action, but this is a much broader spectrum of the british public. People simply taking time off work in the hot summer sun to express their loathing. And you have to remember too, this should be when barack obama came a place overtaken by celebrating the visit of a u. S. President or lock down to enable it. Here we have the complete opposite, he is as far away as he possibly could be from central london. Briefly touched the ground at the ambassador residence to spend the night and is now staying away from downing street, parliament, all down that road behind me. Instead we have this staggering display of british unity here in the multicultural cosmo poll tan hea of london and it is just beginning. One of reasons he said he wont go to the city center. He didnt feoesnt feel welcome. Coming up for us, we are awaiting the pretty conference that was announced from Rod Rosenstein. It will be happening this hour. Still working on details of what he will be announcing. Well bring you the details and bring to you live. You always pay your insurance on time. Tap one little bumper and up go your rates. What good is your insurance if you get punished for using it . News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch and you could save 782 on home and auto insurance. Call for a free quote today. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Just for a shot. But why go back there when you can stay homefice with Neulasta Onpro . 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Is the meeting between theresa may if the meeting between theresa may and donald trump wasnt in a hot enough spotlight, wait until everyone gets to finland where President Trump will be meeting with Vladimir Putin. Trump told reporters this morning his focus will be on nuclear proliferation, syria, ukraine and he said this about russias interference in the 2016 election. I know youll ask will we be talking about meddling. And i will absolutely bring that up. I dont think you will have any, gee, i did it, i did it, you got me. There wont be a perry mason here i dont think, but you never know. But i will absolutely firmly ask the question. And hopefully well have a very Good Relationship with are russia. You know, i think and the Prime Minister would agree. Joining me now david cramer, and you thofr back uthor of bac pmt davi pmt. David, thanks for coming in. What do you make of his approach to his meeting with putin . I mean specifically on the russian meddling thing, im firmly going to ask the question. Is that what the president should be doing, firmly asking the question . He sounded like hes going to do it in a rather perfunctory manner. And the president needs to understand the Intelligence Community has made clear as congress has made clear that interference in our election is something that should be unacceptable and it should incur costs. There have been sanctions imposed as a result of the interference in the 2016 election. But Russian Hackers are still very active. Russian officials are very involved in trying to sow divisions on sensitive issues in the United States, whether sharlts charlottesville or nfl protests or other things. And the president i think needs to be pushing back very strongly. He was asked about dealing with putin and trusting putin as putin still occupying other countries, annexation of crimea. Let me play what the president said. What is your thinking about improving relations with russia while they continue to ilg leley occupy another country . Yes, they do, if you are talking about crimea. But again, president obama failed very badl

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