Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191225

CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan December 25, 2019

In a letter to democratic colleagues she called impeaching the president quote inspiring and overwhelming. Obviously, republican itself will disagree there. At the very same time the focus remains in the senate now, sources saying Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell wants to cut a deal with senator schumer on rules of the road, according to sources he is willing to go it alone without the Democratic Leaders buyin. New this morning, mcconnell may have some work to do with his own party. One republican senator saying she is disturbed. Her wording by the Republican Leaders admitted close coordination of the white house ahead of the senate trial. Cnn Kristen Holmes is following the president. She is in west palm beach, florida now. Senator Lisa Murkowski has been one of the republicans to watch. What else is she saying here . Reporter well, she sat down for this interview. She said she wanted a fair and full process. She criticized mcconnell saying she was working at the white house for the same reason democrats have criticized those comments, essentially being that senators, both democrats and republicans are to be sworn in as fair, unbiased, impartial jurors for the Senate Impeachment trial. Heres what she said, she said in fairness when i heard i was that, i was disturbed. To me it means we have to take that stem step back from being hand in philosophy with the defense. So i heard that i heard what leader mcconnell had said. I happened to think that would further confuse the process. This is important for two big reasons, one as you said, Lisa Murkowski is a pruvenlt she is a vote to watch, she is a swing vote. She does not always go with the Republican Party, in fact, she voted against Justice Brett kavanaugh. She was one to watch already. The second being this is the first sign of discord among the Republican Party since that Impeachment Vote happened a week ago. It seems the republicans are lock step with the president. This shows a little of a crack here. Last week you mentioned Mitch Mcconnell opened to this idea of setting the rules, himself, without any democrats. Floerd to do that he needs 51 votes, now, of course we know republicans hold the senate. Clearly he is saying this out there to our sources he feels a little confidence from the Republican Party there. He can only afford to lose two votes so this break is significant. It is. And to be clear, of course, kristen points it out perfectly. This isnt calling into question the outcome which required a twothirds vote in order to remove the president from office. This is still the rules of the road that are very important for what the public is or is not going to see once a senate trial does begin. To the speakers letter to democrats, calling the Impeachment Vote inspiring. Any response from the white house to this today . Reporter no response from the white house yet. But keep your eye on twitter. Because this holiday one thing is clear, impeachment is really on President Trumps mind. With ehavent seen that much of him. We have heard a lot on twitter. When it comes to that note, pelosi there, a year end note. She is supporting her troops. She is talking about the legislation theyve passed. Then she says this about impeachment. It now remains for the senate to prevent the rules under which we will proceed. We can then appoint the managers. The vote was overwhelming and inspiring and the number of people who want to be managers is indicative of our strong case. I also want to mention two things. One is you talked about Mcconnell Open to setting the rules. You know that republicans still want those articles of impeachment to be transmitted before they begin that process. Even though theyre not certain they have to be. This is a formal process. This is not a note that sounds like she is going to hand those over any time soon without having a guarantee of a fair trial. Thats one interesting thing there. The other thing i want to point out. Those are the House Democrats that would serve as the lawyers defending the case, presenting the case to the senate in an impeachment hearing. Kate. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. So, now in north korea, Christmas Day has already come and gone. Why is it particularly noor noteworthy this year on this day on the holiday as the countrys leader threatens to send the United States quote a christmas gift. U. S. Military officials had said they were expecting the north to conduct a longrange Ballistic Missile test. That would be the gift. This would be an escalation from the series of missile tests that pyongyang has conducted since the summer. As you can see obviously right here on this graphic. Still, President Trump when asked about this threat yesterday said this. Lets see, maybe its a nice present, maybe its a present where he sends me a beautiful vase as opposed to a missile test. Right . And they get a massage. They get a nice present from me. You dont know. You never know. You never do. Joining me analyst, and Senior Adviser to president Obamas National Security adviser and david sanger National Correspondent for the New York Times. Thank you for being here on this holiday. I appreciate it. On a very unholidaylike topic. Nonetheless, the first question, of course, then, sam, is what is the message if north korea conducts a missile test around christmas, around the enough year at all . And then what is the message if they dont i guess . Kate, honestly, to anyone not wearing a mindfold and earmuffs, kim has sent us a message over the past 18 month also, over the past year, he has seriously expanded his weapons capabilities, both his missile capabilities, the amount of his material that he could use to make a bomb. The technology needed to improve his weapons. He did an underwater missile test in october. The first in three years. The point is his Weapons Program has continued to advance. The message loud and clear to anyone that is focused on policy not politics is that he is deeply focused on advancing his program, not freezing it in the first instance and certainly fought denuclearizing. A missile test would be additional provocation. We have to look at the larger picture. Kim remains intent on increasing his military capabilities. We dont have a shared denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula actually, david. It continue to harp on that point. As you point out in a great piece, a similar missile test two years ago is what led to President Trumps then threat of fire and fury being who would be the next fall jo ut . For everyone, a walk down memory lane here, heres from 2015. Listen. North korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen e. He has been very threatening beyond a normal state and as i said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of with i this world has never seen before. Since then, two summits, little progress. And much more. Do you get any sense in your reporting that the administrations tactics are really changing at this point . I this i that the main thing thats changing, kate, is the president s own calculation of his own political interests here. And fire and fury was important at a time early in this administration where he was trying to establish his credentials for toughness. Remember he hired generals to be around him, almost all of whom are now gone. He wanted to project the image of a president who was willing to go and strike back. Now that hes invested in the relationship with kim jongun. I think its a good thing he did meet kim, he is basically saying because of this relationship, though, the complete nature of the relations between the u. S. And north korea have changed. And that the very fact that he and chairman kim get along is equivalent to creating peace. And as sams pointed out, it isnt. Whats happened is that the capability has steadily increased. They havent surged. They havent gone back. They just kept doing what they were doing and then this whole arena and the Nuclear Arena and yet theyve improved the atmospherics. Now. If he conducts the test, obviously that ruins the atmospheri atmospherics for a good long time. I think thats probably a part of the hesitation and calculation going on in north korea right now. Interesting. And then, sam, have you, lets just call it the john bolton factor at this moment. The National Security adviser really trashing trumps policy towards north korea in this interview with action os, here being a key bid. He says the idea that we have somehow exerting maximum pressure on north korea is just unfortunately not true. I mean bolton is suggesting that trump is bluffing on his pledge to stop the nuclear program. What does that do at the moment . Time has consequences. You played trumps fire and fury and doesnt fall through means the North Koreans dont have a reason to believe trump is going to do what he said hes going to do. I dont support fire and fury. What we have seen is coercion kimstyle. Kim is trying to coerce President Trump to lift sanctions. Hes been slowly pumping the envelope in doing more provocative tests over a series of time. Shortrange tests, preparing for a satellite launch, seeing what he can get away with President Trump. She testing these weapons and the President Trumps resolve. President trump has really not responded definitively to these provocations by kim so it certainly looks like President Trump is bluffing. We all know north korea is a Foreign Policy quote unquote success that President Trump points to on the campaign trail and were going into an election year, of course. Really quick, david, because, look, this has been a problem, north korea that has spanned administrations. That is one thing very clear. Obama did not make progress. Did not fix or solve the problem. I read with great interest in your piece that you are hearing from senior Foreign Policy officials and military folks and theyre saying theyre bracing for possibly the most serious cycle of this crisis. Yet, why is that . Because they dont really have a plan b at this point, kate. Their plan, if there is a launch is to go back to the United Nations and tripe to try to tig try to tighten up the sanctions the russians and chinese are engaged in. What does that take back to . Bakally the strategy of george w. Bush and barack obama. Of course, its exactly that to the president said he would walk away from because he was determined to solve this problem. What hes discovered over the past three years is there is a reason this problem hasnt been solved for the past 30 years, because if you are really going to crank up the pressure, as mr. Bolton suggests, you are also willing to go risk war and that would mean completely cutting off the oil supplies to north korea and really provoking something bigger. Right. The president doesnt want that. The chinese dont want that. The russians dont want that. So you end up basically creating an atmosphere that tolerates the buildup of the nuclear forces. You know, President Trump is not the first one to do that george w. Bush used to say to me when i was White House Correspondent i wont tolerate a nuclear north korea. Well, he tolerated one. So we see, so it continues, david, its great to see you. Thanks, guys. 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They have been serving thousands of passengers around the world asking them would they feel safe getting on this plane again when it comes back into mission. 40 of passengers in the month of december, this month say no they would not. And thats unchanged from october which was also about 40 of passengers said no they would not feel safe. This is according to the New York Times and documents they got. I revealed boeing has been calling up airlines and Holding Conference calls, about 30minute Conference Calls and suggesting about how they deal with passengers who may feel nervous getting on a flight so you show up to the gate, you are feeling a little bit nervous, theyre advising they rebook on another flight or have the pilot come out and talk to the passenger to try to quell their fears. Also, if you are having a panic attack maybe midflight, realizing you are on this airplane, the same thing. Boeing is suggesting having the pilot personally get involved and talk to the passenger or treating it like a medical emergency in flight, really trying to comfort these passengers, but we reached out to boeing on all of this heres what they told us. They say, quote, we routinely engage with our airlines commerce to seek their feedback around brief them on our latest plans. Each airline is different in their needs so we provide a wide range of documents and assistants they can use to choose from or tailor as they see fit. The idea is boeing is clearly realizing they have a lot of trust to make up for with passengers. Also with airlines who have thousands of orders in with these planes, but you know, this is also as you mentioned coming on the heels of firing their ceo this week and so clearly a lot of work ahead of them. These planes are again, not being produced right now. I dont know when they will be back in the air. But the key thing is making passengers feel comfortable from thats a curiosity. They dont have a time table. Theyre in the process of doing this. Thank you. Really appreciate it. Coming up next, he made the ultimate zachary face for his country, days before christmas. Now one Fallen Service member is returning home. Whatd we decide on the flyers again . Uh, fifteen minutes could save you 15 or more on car insurance. I think were gonna swap over to over seventyfive years of savings and service. What, were just gonna swap over . Yep. Pump the breaks on this, swap it over to that. Pump the breaks, and, uh, swap over . Thats right. Instead of all this that ive already . Yeah. What are we gonna do with these . Keep it at your desk, and save it for next time.

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