Lets get started. Right now, Thomas Eric Duncan is fighting for his life at a dallas hospital. He is, of course, the first person to be diagnosed with ebola in america. And since this news first broke on wednesday, fear has spread. Media coverage has gone round the clock. Twitter has been on fire. In fact, look at this tweet from donald trump, suggesting that the United States should simply bar flights from the hot zone, west africa. Truth is, there are some Real Security concerns in airports as well as some degree of uncertainty about what we thought we knew about ebola. But friday afternoon, the white house said a ban on travel from west africa would impede the response to the Ebola Outbreak. So here are two questions that i want to ask. First, is some of the fear unwarranted, and second, how do we prevent the ebola virus from coming into the country again . Joining me now, two experts, good afternoon mcgreggor skinner is the Global Projects manager for the griffin foundation, a nonprofit, which teaches people how to handle dangerous diseases around the world. And a month ago, he led a team in nigeria that Trained Health care workers to deal with the obeal outbreak. Also with me, Elizabeth Cohen, cnns senior medical correspondent who came home one week ago from liberia where she was reporting on ebola. Gavin, im concerned about panic among some americans who dont have exposure, especially as were headed into flu season and might regard every sneeze as a potential Ebola Outbreak and virus. Thats a good question. There are two issues here. The first, if a person has recently traveled to the u. S. From a west african country, theyre at home, wake up one morning, have a fever, dont feel well, do they have to make their own way to the hospital or is there a 1800 ebola number they can call . At the moment, there is no 1800 number. And in knee jere, they created a number for people to call in on a regular basis. The other point is, when that person goes to a Urgent Health care center, a health care or clinic, or any other physician in the country, if it that person then if that physician or the nurse takes a proper history, and then learns that person just came back from west africa, puts him in a room for isolation, they go through the Public Health alert system, how do they get to a hospital thats ready to admit ebola patients . And we havent addressed those gaps. Elizabeth, is one lesson we have learned thus far that perhaps honesty is not the best policy, or not a sufficient defense in protecting ourselves . And im referring to the texas patient who allegedly reportedly misled the liberians and may have misled people at the hospital here in the United States in terms of his history . Well, i think in the hospital, it appears he was honest when he was asked, did you go to west africa. Have you traveled recently. He said yes, apparently, on more than one occasion. So this is really on the hospital. He knew the nurse who took him in knew he had traveled recently to west africa. And i heard the Lieutenant Governor on jake tappers show blaming the Electronic Medical record that the right screen didnt pop up he at the right time. Its very disheartening to hear those excuses. The hospital should be saying look, we goofed, were going to figure out how to make this right. They had a liberian man with recent travel history to liberia with a fever in their hospital. I cannot imagine what excuse would explain that away. Would you, elizabeth, paint the picture for the interaction you had leaving liberia versus gaining entrance to the United States . Yes. Two very different experiences. So when i left liberia last week, they take your temperature three times. They were showing you the the car now, thats the first one. And theres two inside the airport. And then there is a team of nurses that looks at you. They know people lie and so they want to look at you and see if youre sick even if you say youre not sick. And then they ask you a questionnaire about symptoms. And then they ask you of also about exposure. They want to know, hey, were you near, were you taking care of a patient with ebola. And thats apparently where it seems that mr. Duncan lied and said he wasnt when apparently he was. And thats the honor system that you are talking about before. Now this is in contrast to what happens when you come back in the u. S. When i came back in the u. S. , no one asked me if i had been exposed to a patient with ebola, even though i told them i was a journalist who was there to could have ebola. They didnt ask my two colleagues any questions. They did say to me its kind of funny if it werent so awful. Because the immigration official was about to hand my passport to me and say welcome home. And he goes, oh, you were in liberia. I think i got an email about that. Im supposed to tell you something. And then he and his colleagues conferred and he came back and he said, oh, im supposed to tell you to watch your health for the next 21 days. To watch for symptoms. And i said what symptoms . Am i supposed to watch for . And he said i dont know. He couldnt tell me. Gavin, shy of a travel ban which the white house said on friday, theyre not inclined to institute at this point, can we keep it out . Yes, we can. And again, weve got to be more vigilant at our ports of entry, at our airports. Again, elizabeth is correct. On my way home, i was had my temperature taken and questions and interviewed twice in nigeria, once in germany. But nothing when i came back to washington, d. C. The other thing that im really concerned about, when i came back and, again, all my team from the elizabeth r. Griffin foundation, we put ourselves under 21 days of observation talking to each other. But i didnt want to have to go into the Emergency Department and sit next to the child with the broken arm if i had developed a fever and body aches and early signs of ebola. I have the same questions. Im still within my 21 days. Im only seven days out. And so i do wonder, what if i develop symptoms, what am i supposed to do . Where am i supposed to go . I certainly dont want to show up at my Family Doctors practice and say hey i just went to liberia and ive got a fever. Its not clear what youre supposed to do. I dont want to minimize the risks at stake for some here, but as a layperson, lacking the expertise of either of you, i say to myself, there is one known case. Nobody has ever died in the United States as a result of ebola. Im aware of the fact those two Health Care Workers who returned to the United States have apparently made a recovery. And this is not exactly the sierra leone. So does it warrant that which we are placing on it in terms of attention . I think people need to understand, and i know its been said 1 million times, but you cant overcommunicate. This disease is not spread through the air. You get this disease when you come into direct contact with someones bodily fluids who is infected and actively ill, symptomatic. People need to understand that. Dr. Gregor skinner and Elizabeth Cohen thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Joining me to talk about the legal aspects of all of this is cnn senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. Great to see you. There are so many different facets of it that interest me. Lets talk for a moment about the hospital where apparently the patient presented, and instead of admitting him, they sent him home and it was two days that there was then a delay. What kind of exposure might they face . What kind of exposure might he the patient face given what we know so far . Well, you know, the first piece of advice i would give is ignore anything that imbeciles like donald trump say about this situation. The second thing is, you know, this is not a crisis at the moment. And there is no necessity for the hospital to be punished, for this man to be punished. Obviously, procedures have to evolve. This is a complicated new threat in the United States. Certainly the hospital could face some sort of loss or challenge or fine regarding its accreditation. I cant imagine that the state of texas really needs to prosecute an ebola victim for making a false statement at a hospital, which as far as im aware, is not a crime under any circumstances to make a false statement to a hospital. So i think this needs to be dealt with as a Public Health matter, but not as a legal matter to the extent possible. How about the airlines . Because, you know, some Airlines Continue to fly into parts of west africa and some have scaled back their service. If you and i were running a carrier, what considerations might we have pertaining to the ebola virus . In other words, might we be saying to ourselves, we dont want to be held accountable if ear transporting individuals who do get sick and then we incur litigation from other passengers on that plane saying it was our fault . Well, that is certainly a risk. And the appropriate thing to do, i think, is to for the airlines to be in close touch with our government, with the liberian government. And to assess with them the risks and benefits of continuing to provide service. As the white house and the administration has pointed out. There is a lot of Public Health benefit to keeping these planes going. People are going in to try to help this situation. If approximate you cut off the planes, it becomes more difficult to bring people in who have a chance of ameliorating the situation. But it is certainly true that the airlines have to be aware that there is there is a risk, but as Elizabeth Cohen and everyone else has said, this is not an easily communicable disease. So the risks should not be overstated either. Jeffrey toobin, great to see you. Thank you. Well take a quick break. Up next, the secret service under fire for lapses of its handling of president obamas protection. Are race and gender playing a role in the screwups . Also ahead, the young man who thought it was cool to violently kick a cat into the air, may end up cooling his heels behind bars for a long time. Does the punishment fit the crime . Well get some answers. Tmobiles network has more data capacity than verizon or at t. Its a network designed differently. A Network Designed Data strong. So what role, if any, are race and gender playing in the level of protection that the president is receiving from the secret service . This week on the view, Whoopi Goldberg wondered if the problems are all about race. Im kind of shocked. I mean, the one thing you always see the secret service jumping in front of bullets. But somehow with him, theyre like, oh, look, somebody is running on the road. You want to call somebody to get him . Its li its li its like nobody gets yeah, were just going to watch the whole thing. I mean what are you waiting for . This is the president of the United States. Whoopi is not alone. A front page article in fridays New York Times quotes several africanamerican members of congress who say their constituents are concerned the secret service is not being aggressive in protecting the first black president. So should americans be concerned about mr. Obamas safety . Im joined by congressman emmanuel cleaver, democrat of missouri, quoted in that times article and del quinton wilber, National Security reporter at bloomberg and author of a book called raw hide down. What are you hearing from your constituents . I think the whole concept of or the suspicion that this president is not going to be cared for by the secret service or by the nation as a whole as much as previous president s has been around since the campaign. And so it has just been accelerated as the stories about breeches have occurred. But now its important to remember that suspicions are feelings. Not facts. And i do understand there has been a great deal of paranoia and that factor with this president. But africanamericans in particular are concerned and weve got to arrest those, because i dont think their based in reality. Del, what is apparently based in reality is the fact that threats against this president have spiked as compared to other president s and he was afforded secret Service Protection i think prior to sooner than any candidate who has ever sought the office previously. Thats exactly true. No president going back since the secret Service Started protecting them back in the late 1800s has gotten nearly as much protection as president obama has or as many threats. They have to respond to them. Its a very difficult balancing act, the secret service has to weigh. And this president gets out there. Hes out in the public. Hes, you know, going on walks. The bear is loose and they have to go with him. Im sure there are a lot of conversations about that when he decides the bear is going to get loose to get a starbucks or something as he did a few weeks ago or few months ago. And i think they have stepped up the protection of him but had these embarrassing episodes. Congressman, i worry about the tone, i worry about the rhetoric. English the debate in this country has gotten much too hot, and frankly, a lot of folks who earn their living with microphones stir that pot in a way that could send someone off the rails who is not playing with a full deck. No question about it. Heres the problem. Paranoia seems remarkably more logical when it is based on something that was real. And the reality is, not only are there many more threats against the president , but there are many more crazy statements. Right. By individuals. People have likened the president to a monkey. Somebody sub human something from some country in western singer. And every time you do this, you increase the possibility of putting information in the head of a sick person who then goes out and tries to act on what he has heard or said. And thats what is dangerous. The and is frankly, thats what has caused much of the paranoia in the black community. But i think people all over the country are concerned. No doubt thats true. Del, i want to ask whether there is a gender aspect to whats now playing itself out, meaning with regard to the level of protection that the president is receiving or not receiving in this case. And heres what brings it to my mind. Last monday, i remember i got an alert on my iphone from the New York Times. A story that reported as follows. A man who jumped the white house fence this month made it far deeper into the president s home than previously disclosed, overpowering a female Service Agent inside the north portico entrance and running into the east room before tackled. Thats according to someone familiar with the incident. It wasnt in the print edition the following day. And i should be clear and tell you, i think there are plenty of women who are capable of providing security to the president and i respect anybody who is going to put themselves in harms way to take a bullet for the commander in chief. But if the stature of someone who is placed in that position renders them incapable of providing the highest level of protection, then that ought to be an issue that we have public conversation about. Youre all over this story, del. What do you know of it and what thoughts might you have . Well, i cant speak to what the New York Times edited out or published or not. I know that an officer who tried an officer, not an agent, who tried to stop, you know, mr. Omar gonzalez as he went on his tour through the white house that day, did get run over. But i cant say it was run over because the person was small or tall or big or slow. I mean, the guy barrelled in, he could have run over anyone. The problems with this incident, with the fence jumping incident, extend far further than that. They didnt track the guys background when they had a chance to and knew he was stalking the white house with a hatchet a couple weeks before he did this. Said the alarm was muted so the officers and agents werent even sure what was going on. The door wasnt locked. There are so many other problems here before we even get to that issue. This is an alpha male job. You know, willing to take a bullet for the president. You know, and theres some issues with that. And we just lost the first female secret Service Director who was brought in to help clean house after they had had the prostitution scandal with all of the male agents down in carta haina in 2012. She just had to resign after these several incidents. You know, these Security Breaches and lapses. So i think its all part of the conversation. Congressman, what thoughts do you have on the gender aspect of this, either as it relate to the former now head of the United States secret service or the issue that i have raised. Well, i think that there will be some, as in almost every situation, who will look at the story about the secret Service Agent being overpowered, and saying well women should not become secret Service Agents. And to that i say bunk. There are women who are fully capable of working in that arena, and have been doing so ever single day. And a man could have been overrun. It is important, i think, and i want to make sure i say this, breaches dont dont equate to betrayal. And so we have had these breaches. We had a situation where a secret Service Agent was not able to stop someone. Right. But ladies and gentlemen, look, with all of the agents ive been to the white house many, many times. There are agents everywhere. The system needs to be reevaluated and i guess thats whats going to happen now. Dont forget one of the heroes of the reagan assassination attempt was one of the first female agents who joined the service. So there has been a long history of female a