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Firing his attorney general. Meanwhile, violence in the u. S. Capitol is far right trump supporters, the proud boys clash withcounter protesters. Coronavirus cases and deaths are surging in the u. S. But even as the pandemic worsens, the country is dpeerg up for a massive vaccination effort. The first vaccines are said to be delivered to 145 sites across the country on monday. Health care workers and elderly residents of long care facilities will be first in line to get them. The u. S. Reported a new record of more than 108,000 covid hospitalizations on saturday and there are more than 60 million cases in this country right now. Well, cnns chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta has more on the vaccine and what this rollout will look like once the cdc signs off on it. Just remarkable developments scientifically with this vaccine. It is now authorized and has now been recommended by the center for Disease Control as well, which means that lots of moving parts are starting to up fold. We know that the shipments are scheduled to begin this weekend. Likely going to be arriving in many places by monday morning, and we could see people starting to get vaccinated outside a clip cal trial early this week, perhaps monday or tuesday. The process has been so far once the fda authorized it, the cdc recommended it and we get some better clarity on not only who the vaccine is recommended for but also who may not be recommended. For example, we know that this is going to be recommended for people 16 and over. There was some back and forth on that among the advisory committee. Some felt that maybe the 18 and over but the fda and now cdc think 16 and over. We know that pregnant women, for example, were not part of the original clinical trial. 23 women in the trial game pregnant while in the trial but theres not a lot of data to where its dangerous or that its not safe. Theres not a lot of data to show its efficacy in pregnant women specifically. Thats likely to end up to be conversations between pregnant women and her doctor. If a pregnant woman is in a high risk profession and exposed to covid over and over again, as an example, they may go ahead and ask for the vaccine. We know that people who have had a significant allergic reaction in the past, so significant that they carry an epipen, correction, they may not be recommended to get the vaccine and people who have conditions who have compromised their immune system. I think a lot of this is going to be conversations between individuals and their Health Care Providers to try and figure out whats going to be the best course of action for them. Three million doses, roughly, are gowing to distributed around the country. And its up to each state to sort of triage these doses. We know that specifically Health Care Workers who take care of Covid Patients and people in Long Term Care familiarities are going to be at the top of the list but each state may give all their doses to Health Care Workers or all their doses to Long Term Health care facility residents. It may be different one state compared to the state next door. That may feel a little disjoint but the hope is as more and more vaccine is created its going to help smooth out some of the demand surges that are likely to occur obviously in these various states. Thanks to sanjay there. As people hold out for vaccines, the pandemic is surging in countries across the world. In south korea, for example, Health Officials are trying to cope with the highest number of daily cases since the pandemic began. 1,000 confirmed infections from saturday. In europe, the german chancellor plans to meet with local leaders over a possible nationwide lockdown there. All of this was discussed with dr. Jorge rodriguez. He joins me now from los angeles. Doctor, hi, lovely to see you. Its this is fascinating. Its a huge scientific historical scientific moment. Were seeing this vaccination roll out. Has anything like this ever been done before in the u. S. . Nothing at all. Even while wasnt around but mean the polio vaccinations, no effort has ever been put together with this degree of you know, sort of urgency, and with this degree of cooperation. Just remember that a advantage seep has gone from the beginning of the pandemic to administering the vaccination in approximately nine months. Thats unheard of. And this is a worldwide pandemic. So the solution is not just to give it to people in the United States. Its to give it to people world round, so nothing like this has ef been done. It is quite astoupding. It is quite astounding, particularly organizationally now. Theres the need for ultra cold freezers, tracking equipment, milt backup plans, if kneeled be, tight security and basic distribution. What do you think is the most what needs to be done the most effectively, the most efficiently . The most efficient thing that should be done, since the vaccine requires such cold temperatures is that it needs to be gotten and taken to the areas that are necessary under the correct environment. It needs to be distributed in the correct environment. So precision is the most important thing. I think the secondmost important thing is telling the public when they can get the vaccine, how they can access it, because there are a lot of questions right now. So i think the communication to the public is going to be absolutely the most important thing. Yeah. It certainly is. Thats not just a u. S. Thing as well. Many people asking questions and they just need some trust, essentially, in their Health Care Providers. That, of course, is also seen when other people take it. We have all these millions of people potentially being vaccinated in the coming months. How important is it for people who have already had covid to also get vaccinated . Where does that fit in . Well, the people who already had covid need to be stratified as if they never had it. We dont know if they can harbor the virus later on, if they can get it a second time. Therefore, people that are that have be already infected with covid should not have a accepts of security that theyre never going to get it again. They need to be vaccinated. Probably the most long lasting immunity will be obtained through vaccination. Thats interesting. Also the interesting thing, doctors like you still dont know if this vaccine stops the infection or just stops you from getting sick. This is about mask wearing way into next year, isnt it . Absolutely. I think one of the disservices weve done to the public is we have almost propagated the myth that when things are better we can go out and be normal. Lets realize that normalcy is going to take a while. We dont have longterm data on this vaccine. So until we know, six months out, a year out, that boichk it is safe to come out of our homes, we are going to have to still just take precautions. We dont know if we can spread it. Until we know differently, we still have to take precautions to protect those who not be vaccinated. And actually, ourselves, because we dont know how long it will be effective in those who have gotten it. What do you think about the need to test people at home . Does regulation need to change . Do you see did Biden Administration being pressured to change regulation so we can selftest at home . I dont know if theyre going to be pressured. But i think being selftested at home is one more bullet in our armor to fight this. The sort of bottleneck and the cog in the works, if you will, is the ability of people at home to be able to test themselves creditly. The test has not only to be effective, it has to be easy to be performed at home. I think its going to be a huge help in what we do. Even if people just test themselves, you know, often, it is better than not being tested at all. Dr. Rodriguez, always good to speak you. Thank you for joining us. Coming up on cnn, more on that logistical nightmare of getting that vaccine to hundreds of millions of people. We look at the plan to ship it throughout the u. S. Plus the u. S. Attorney general is on the bad end of trump. As a technical director at 3m, im committed to making a difference in peoples lives. My team helped expand the benefits of reflective technology, so its highly visible when it needs to be, and less visible when it doesnt. Whether youre hard at work or heading home for dinner, its there when it matters most. 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Demonstrations were mostly peaceful during the day but scuffles broke out support addcally. The Electoral College will meet on monday. President trump is hashing out at the Supreme Court and his own attorney general. Heres more in washington. Boris. Reporter President Trump spent saturday mostly focused on the 2020 election and myth making, repeating false claims that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him and now the president is focussing his ire on those in his administration and elsewhere that are refusing to go along with this fantasy. On saturday, President Trump tweeting that the Supreme Court acted displacefully in dismissing that lawsuit from the state of texas trying to over turn lawsuits in pennsylvania and other states. He focused on his attorney general william barr. Cnn reported that President Trump was furious with barr after the attorney general revealed in the Associated Press that he did not believe that there was any widespread Election Fraud, there was no evidence of widespread Election Fraud. Cnn has learned that President Trump at that point contemplated firing the toerm but was talked out of it by aids, ultimately suggesting that he was so close to a new administration that it wouldnt be worth it. Now, the president is again revisiting the idea after news that attorney general william barr worked to keep news that the department of justice was investigating president elect joe bidens son hunter under wraps. Barr, following precedent and policy to not reveal any sort of information about a candidate or their family members being under investigation around election time. The president tweeting this, quote, why didnt bill bar reveal the truth to the public before the election about hunter biden . Joe was lying on the deept stage that nothing was wrong or going on. Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for republicans at the polls. That truth there that the president is alluding to, a bit nebulous at best. Nevertheless, this is history recenting itself. President trump frequently berated his former attorney general, jeff session, on twitter because session did not do his bidding and ultimately recused himself from the russia investigation. That went on for the better part of a year before President Trump ultimately fired sessions, replacing him with barr. Now were in a similar situation. Sources close to the two men say that the communication between them is virtually nonexist ends, that there has been a breakdown between the two of them. They likened it to a cold war between the two men. Hes mused about firing barr. Its unclear whether he will, so close to a new administration on january 20th. Joining me is jessica levinson, professor of law at loyola. Jessica, lovely to see you. The president tweeted we have just begun the fight. Were seeing americans fighting on the streets, d. C. Najs we showed a little before. Is the legal fight now totally over . Almost, almost, almost. I wish i could say totally over. Now, any legitimate legal fight is way, way over, and frankly never even began, so people have asked me when it comes to the post election litigation, are you going to talk about this in your election law class . The answer is no. I would talk about this in an ethical lawyering class or professional responsibility class on what not to do. There havent been any real legal questions. Is it over, over, over . I mean, any potential small path to victory is over. But will the suits potentially continue in order to help fund raise . Maybe. Thats a good point. How has the legal fight to overturn the election created political opportunities for the president and his supporters . In many ways someone suggested that the legal losses have sent a clear post election message. I think so. If you look at how much President Trump has been able to fund raise as a result of continuing to fight in the courts, i think at this point, its probably upwards of 200 million. So continuing the legal fights has really allowed him to continue his political fights and his Political Fund raising. This money particularly for a leadership pac could really allowed him to continue to hold sway over the Republican Party, not just by using the media, but also by using this frankly huge slush fund, so i think thats what were talking about here. There really is no realistic path. Even in 2020, even in our crazy topsyturvy world, there is no legal path to overturning a democratically elected president elect, in this case, joe biden. So are what you calling a slush fund and the majority of House Republicans support this texas case. How and to what extent mr. President trump p trump has co opted the Republican Party and how long will that endure after the 20th of january. I mean, how much does the Political Landscape change in the years ahead . I wish i knew the answer to that. I suspect that anybody who says they know for sure, im a little suspicious of that. But what we do know is that the Republican Party really has become the party of trump. We saw this in the Republican Convention where the platform was one thing. Reelect President Trump. And up think for some republicans, some voters, not elected officials, its become kind of unrecognizable, because none of these things have anything to do with your view of tax policy or the environment or criminal justice or voting rights. Its all really just about trying to elect President Trump. Now, how much noise is he going to make Going Forward . In part, its how much the elected republicans allow him to make. I mean, the fact that a majority of them signed on to a lawsuit that was so absurd that it is you should have a real conversation about whether the lawyers should be sanctioned. Doesnt say a lot about the institutional strength of the Republican Party. Thats not good for our country. Its better for our country when we have two legitimate parties, not one party with certain views and then another party that supports at least publicly undermining our democracy. How does potentially firing the attorney general weeks before the handover impact things . Is this likely . And what more importantly, if it happens, what does that change, if anything . What opportunity does it give the president in the last few weeks . Well, you know, what does it change . I mean, for bill barr, i dont think frankly this has been the curious case of bill barr for so long, because he did serve as the attorney general before. Many people, including myself, incheckly thought that he would be the adult in the room, and you know, at this point he did kind of two things that showed respect for the rule of law and reality. And as a result were talking about him being fired. Now, what could happen is bill bars no longer there. Its not like he served as a guardrail or a protector of democracy and our department of justice. We dont know who would be installed. I think were at about 38 days before the inauguration, so certainly President Trump is still in power. Theres still a lot of levers that he can pull. And he can still try and, for instance, undermine protection for career mex of the federal government, but i would say we dont know the answer to that yet. We dont know if bill barr is going to be ostracized or if hell be shown door. Always important to get your perspective. Thank so much. Have a lovely weekend. Thank you. Heating up in georgia ahead of the two elections in january. Many republicans in the state are repeating President Trumps false claim of Election Fraud as well. But they are still urging people to vote next month. Heres more from atlanta. Re

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