House this past week, but now the Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee is speaking out. Talked with cnn today. Where does their investigation go now . Well, one of the big things that both the house and Senate Intel Committees are trying to weigh is just how valuable Michael Flynn, the former National Security advisers testimony will be. Of course, the big bombshell at the end of the week is that flynn said he is willing to testify if he is granted immunity for that testimony. Hes offered this up to both of those committees. He has offered it up to fbi and the Justice Department, but it seems as though the committees in the congress are a little skeptical that there will be any real value in flynns testimony, at least to the point where they would be willing to take that immunity. This is what adam schiff, that Ranking Member on the house intel committee, had to stay about it this morning on state of the union. We dont want to do anything that will interfere in any case that the Justice Department may decide to bring. We also have to determine whether he really can add value to our investigation, whether we
need him to learn information we cant learn from other sources. So it is very early i think even to be considering this. Were not ready to consider that. Were not even publicly acknowledging that hes contacted us, and if and when we would talk to general flynn, under what other considerations. We would want to make sure we knew all of the right questions to ask. Were not anywhere close to making those drawing those conclusions yet. But yet this investigation moves forward, and of course the president himself tweeting this week that he encouraging essentially Michael Flynn to seek immunity as he moves forward in this investigation. Just another example of how this situation with russia continues to be a cloud over this white house. All right. Thank you to ryan nobles, as we turn to matt rivers now in beijing and discuss the upcoming visit with the president of china coming to the maralago resort there with the president of the u. S. This week. Today President Trump, in short,
saying the u. S. Will take on north korea with or without china. Has there been any reaction there yet . Reporter Nothing Official yet, ana, but when we ghetto fishl reaction later on today, which we are expecting here in beijing, i think you can expect the chinese to be as consistent as they have been in the past, which is to say they are rock solid in how they approach this issue. What theyve been saying for went over ten years now is that the only way to solve the ongoing crisis in the Korean Peninsula is through negotiations, whether it is under the kind of framework like the sixparty talks that ultimately failed back in the mid 2000s or with a new round of Direction Negotiations between the United States and the regime in pyongyang. That according to the chinese is the only way you can bring some sort of lasting peace and stability and get pyongyang to stop its Weapons Development program. Of course, on the other side of the equation here you have the Trump Administration arguing it is actually china that should be using its economic leverage over
pyongyang to get the kim jongun regime to stop developing these Nuclear Weapons. China does have a lot of economic leverage. It is north koreas only Major Trading ally on the world stage. I think when both president s meet for the first time in maralago later on this week, this is certainly going to be very, very high up the agenda, given how tense the situation remains in this part of the world. Matt rivers, our thanks to you. Lets talk more about all of this with former ambassador to south korea and iraq, christopher hill. He is now dean of the university of denver. He was also the lead u. S. Negotiator of the sixparty talks. Ambassador hill, thank you for spending some of your sunday night with us. Now, when President Trump hosted japans leader in february at maralago, i think we spoke on that night as north korea hit the launch on a missile there. How likely is that north korea might act out again during the chinese president s visit . You know, it is possible they could do it. I mean they tend to do these
things on their own schedule, but certainly there have been expectations and some indications that they may want to do another test, and they you know, it could come when theyre sitting in maralago talking about what to do about the north koreans. I dont think it is going to help the north korean cause much, but i think the really interesting thing will be how the chinese size up donald trump and how donald trump sizes up the chinese. President trump said today about his upcoming maralago meeting with chinas leader, quote, i have Great Respect for china. I would not be at all surprised if we did something that would be dre dramatic and good for both countries and i hope so. That was a quote from the interview with the Financial Times. Ambassador, what would a major deal with china potentially look like . First of all, a grace note from donald trump on china is kind of a good sign. Usually when you pull a rabbit out of a hat in a summit it is
because you spent a lot of time stuffing that rabbit down the hat, and so were not really sure any of that has gone on. But certainly i think there will be some some effort to say, look, chinese, if you can really, really throttle them back on this through sanctions, work on their access to your financial system, work on your trade of Raw Materials with them and, you know, meanwhile well keep the door open to a lot of things. You know, were not interested in going right to a Military Solution here, but we really need some help. It will be that kind of discussion. You know, theres been this kind of desultory thing where the chinese turn to us and say, come on, u. S. , we have to talk to these people, and we say, no, you need to do more. In fact we need to Work Together on this problem. President trump has signalled he does not plan to press human rights issues during this visit. Why do you think that is . You know, i think theres a time and place for that, but i
think theres a broad feeling in the Analytical Community that north korea is making progress on its Nuclear Weapons, and it is kind of time that that issue gets front and center in the u. S. china relationship. Maybe in the entire International List of concerns. So my hope is that they really will focus on north korea. It doesnt mean that they cant Focus On Human Rights at another time, another place, but i really think north korea ought to be front and center. This problem is coming down the tracks. I would also like to get your take on another thing that caught my eye in this Financial Times interview. President trump saying so far he has no regrets about his style or his agenda, but that governing is harder than he thought. Ambassador, it kind of seemed like a moment where President Trump was humble. Is that how you see that . Well, i think that whole Healthcare Issue really was kind of, you know, clear to him that this was a lot more difficult
than he thought. You just cant tell people what to do. It is hard to scare people. They want you to show how youre really going to do something to them, so they call your bluff all the time. So if you thought healthcare was tough, wait until he gets a load of the north koreans. I mean these are people who absolutely dont care what anyone else thinks. And so he has to solve this because he doesnt want to face the American People in 2020, having had north korea deliver or announce a deliverable Nuclear Weapon that could reach the United States. And when it comes to china, does his style or his erratic nature help him in any way in terms of negotiating with china . Well, to be frank, theyre not thrilled with iraq. No one is. But they do like decisive. They do like strong. I mean dont forget they got along great with richard nixon. They tended to get along with americas leaders who they perceive as strong and decisive, but they worry about this erratic side. I think thats why this facetoface meeting which will go on for i mean theyre going to have a couple of days down there at maralago, and i hope they will get to take the measure of each other and perhaps make some progress. Do you think kim jongun might be worried about how donald trump would respond . You know, this is a guy who seems to be right out of a mad magazine, what, me worry . Type of person. On the other hand, he has to be a little concerned because were getting to the point where we cant be patient anymore. We cant say, oh, this problem is important, but it is not urgent or immediate. It is urgent, it is important, and i think the United States is really going to have to deal with this. Obviously we have to really tighten up those alliances with japan and south korea. Thats number one. But certainly number two is a clear understanding with the chinese of what we would do, what we wouldnt do, and we need to get a clear sense of the chinese take this with the seriousness that, frankly, the
rest of the civilized world takes it. This white house has said that north korea is the greatest International Threat to this country. Do you agree . Im there. I mean i think the issues going on in the middle east really cant be left on their own. I mean there are some issues, you try to leave them on their own and hope they go away. Thats not going to go away, so thats tough. But i think in terms of a country that kind of threatens us with Nuclear Weapons, i think we have to take it very seriously, and i would put it right up there number one. I mean the issue is if north korea has a provocation against south korea, they move on south korea in some way, will the United States be prepared to do what we have to do which is intervene on south koreas part if were also concerned that north korea might fire off a missile . Obviously we can retaliate in a way that would finish north korea. I mean it would become the proverbial parking lot, but is it good enough after having lost many thousands of americans . I doubt it. So i think this really needs to be taken with utmost seriousness. All right. Ambassador christopher hill, good to have you on to niechlt thank you. Thank you. Coming up, ahead of a Supreme Court showdown on capitol hill, some good news for republicans. A Third Senate Democrat has announced support for judge gorsuch, but will the gop get enough dems on their team to fend off a filibuster . Ill have the latest numbers and we will discuss next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. You have access to indepth analysis, level 2 data, and a team of experienced traders ready to help you if you need it. Its like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are. Its your trade. E trade. Start trading today at etrade. Com
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nuclear option, change the rules. I mean does that open a huge can of worms . Some have said it could signal the end of bipartisanship period. This has been a long time come. Justice ruth bader begins burg said, you know, when i went through it i was put to 963 and senator half, a republican, was my biggest ally, and now in this climate he wouldnt touch me with a 10foot pole. More and more these Confirmation Hearings are becoming contentious, and one of the key reason is as Congress Grid locks more of these issues are coming through the court. What this is going to mean, if there is a nuclear option, is that there are going to be more extremist candidates down the road and people are going to believe that the Supreme Court, the judicial body, is a political body. Thats something, ana, that the Supreme Court justices themselves, they really dont like that. That really bothers them. Arianne, what is your gut telling you . Any chance judge gorsuch doesnt get confirmed . Ive got to say right now it sure feels like Chuck Schumer must have his votes lined up, but the end of the day the republicans feel like, look, if you want to filibuster, were ready to pull the trigger. The democrats, theyre really going here on principle. There was a school of thought that said, look, why do this now . Youre replacing a conservative with a conservative on the bench. Why not wait to trigger this until you get somebody like Anthony Kennedy or the liberal ruth bader begins burg. But the end of the day, schumer has made clear the democrats want to pus ahead on this now, anna. Theyre digging in. Arianne de vogue. Coming up, President Trump hitting the greens with senator rand paul. Will it be a good fit with his
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rnc mike shields. Welcome back and thank you for staying with us. Thank you. Mayor, i think it is safe to say the president wont be inviting the president of china out for a round of golf at maralago this weekend. We know the chinese president is a wellknown soccer fan. He has made a policy of actually shutting down golf courses all over china. But they will be meeting at maralago, go