Boris, another wrinkle to this story today. The white house has brought in an additional attorney. Tell us more. Reporter thats right. His name is ty cobb. He is a power attorney in washington, d. C. Who has defended high profile cases, including where he defended two former Clinton White house officials. Aside from that, he has defended major corporations, an excia officer. And a former federal prosecutor. Hes expected to oversee not only the legal response to the russia investigation but also how the white house responds to these consistent press reports that have leaked out that have been damaging to the white houses agenda. We now know there were more people in that room at that meeting that had not been disclosed previously. What is the white house saying about this latest development . Not much at all, ana. There has not been an official statement from the white house about these additional developments. The most weve gotten is part of a tweet sent by the president earlier today where he referred to the russia hoax. But he didnt get into the specifics of these new revelations about who specifically was in that meeting with donald trump jr. , with Paul Manafort and with Jared Kushner as well. We will continue to wait and watch. But as of right now, the white house is forwarding all of our questions to the president s legal team. Boris sanchez, thank you. I want to show you that list once again of people we now know were at that trump tower meeting last june. And one of those names that has just entered this conversation, thats him under others, is rinat akhmetshin. Elise, this man has been around washington we know for decades, at least one u. S. Senator really wants to know more information about him and what his motivations are. What can you tell us . Well, thats right. Hes been a well known figure in washington circles. Hes been a u. S. Citizen since 2009. Born in russia. And hes been a lobbyist for an organization of this lawyer, this russian lawyer who was originally the subject of that meeting with donald trump jr. And Jared Kushner and now were learning that there were actually eight people in the room. In addition to being a lobbyist, he also was working in the russia in the soviet army, and he has said in the past to colleagues and friends that he was working on behalf of Russian Military intelligence. Since then in lots of press interviews, he has denied those charges saying that the unit that he worked for did some work on Law Enforcement and intelligence but denied being part of the gru, so to speak, the Russian Military intelligence unit. Now, he did get the interest of senator chuck grassly, who is the chairman of the Senate JudiciaryCommittee Earlier this year because of the lobbying work that hes done. Senator glassy was wondering whether he registered properly for the work he had done, whether he registered as a Foreign Agent because there was some concern about his ties to intelligence. So why was he in the meeting . Obviously it turns out that natalia was talking about the magnitski act. Thats why she was talking in the meeting after the kind of issue of talking about dirt on hillary clinton. She also brought up that magnitski act. That was the topic that this gentleman was the lobbyist on behalf. So obviously his former life in the soviet army is raising a lot of questions as to why he was there. Do we know if moscow is saying anything about him . Hes the former soviet officer. Certainly his history there would be documented. They say they dont know anything about him. They say that hes not come across their interest. Of course, we have reached out to him and he has not gotten back to cnn with any comment. All right. Elise reporting. Thank you very much. Lets talk more about this themmening plot with the White House Correspondent and cnn intelligence and security analyst and former cia operative bob bear. Lets take a look at this again. A russian lawyer, a russian lobbyist who has admitted to being an exsoviet officer. A translator was in the room and a still unidentified person. Now, as a former cia operative, does this seem like a russian intelligence operation to you . Absolutely. I know exactly what they were doing. They were probing the trump campaign. They wanted to vig your out would they accept this information. It is what we call in the intelligence area is soft pitch. If donald junior turned it down at that point, they would have walked away. It gives them plausible deniability. You have all these people represent the kremlin, russias interest. They werent there without some knowledge of moscow. Jared kushners attorney started strategizing back in midjune how to disclose these emails. You report on this white house daily. How likely is it that the president just found out about this meeting this past weekend . Well, i think its very likely because all of the lawyers involved, all of the aids involved would have known that it was very important to keep President Trump isolated from this situation until the last possibly moment. Thats why so many lawyers are involved with the white house now, to make decisions like that. Its important to keep President Trump as far away from the situation as possible. And one of the reasons why this particular disclosure has been more damaging than previous revelations is because the people involved are not expendable. Theyre not like manafort that could have been easily discarded when questionable past behavior came to light. They are family. President trump is famously loyal to family, and these are people that even if he severed professional ties with him, they would still be close in his ear every day. So this situation had to be handled with extreme care, and i think the legal team sought to keep President Trump isolated from this information until they had no other choice but to tell him about the meeting. And we just dont know at this point. That is one of the big questions, is when did the president find out, what was he told. Jared kushner, we have learned through cnns reporting sources telling some of our colleagues, sara murray and evan perez, that apparently Jared Kushner told his legal team he wanted to sit down with the president and talk to him about these emails before they came out with some kind of response. Again, we dont know when and if that happened. But donald trump jr. Has released these statements and he released his email saying he wanted to be transparent. He gave an interview to his friends in fox news to be transparent as well. I want to play some of that portion of the interview for you. Did you ever meet with any other person from russia that you know . I dont even know. I have probably met with other people from russia. Not in the context of actual formalized meeting. As far as you know, this is all of it . This is everything. This is everything. Four days later we now know he was not transparent. Does donald trump jr. Seem like he has nothing to hide . He has a lot to hide, ana. First of all, the New York Times called him up and said were about ready to release these emails and thats when he released them. He had no choice. His hand was forced. And, you know, he didnt admit the other russian there or what the information was about when this first came out on saturday last week. Also, i dont believe they didnt tell trump. You know, youre approached by a government like russia and all these people and they didnt inform the candidate, donald trump . This is just gross negligence. None of this story makes sense. And i cant wait until mueller gets to the bottom of it, and he will, because hes going to get their phone calls before, after any contacts made, the metadata and a good investigator properly motivated will get to the bottom of this story. Do you think mueller will be interviewing people on the russian side of the meeting as well . I dont think well ever see them again. They have a lot to say. I dont think theyre going to show up in the United States. This clearly ill go back again and say with almost 100 certainty, this was a russian intelligence operation run out of the kremlin. It has all the hallmarks. You know, can i prove it right now . No. But it certainly looks that way. Again, you have that experience of a cia cop ratiope. What you just said is what we heard earlier. So you guys are saying the same thing. There is a lot of focus on donald trump jr. Specifically because he is the one who was the connector in this meeting. But Jared Kushner was at that meeting, too. He actually works in the white house as we speak. Do we need to hear from kushner himself . Jared kushners presence at this meeting makes it more problematic for the white house because now he is becoming a political target. Democrats in dock are already angling to have him stripped of his security clearance. Its not clear that would be successful. But that adds another layer of political complication for the white house. Jared kushner is someone who very rarely appears or speaks publically. He operates behind the scenes. But now Congressional Democrats have a reason to haul him before congress and there is not much republicans or the white house can do to justify withholding that testimony. So at some point Jared Kushner may have to step forward and explain his presence at that meeting, explain why there were so many omissions on his first crack at the fs86. Again, because hes so close to the president , it is not easy for the white house to just isolate him when hes becoming such a liability for the white house. It was earlier this spring when Jared Kushner amended that security clearance form. He added about 100 foreign contacts is what his attorney said. But he still left off this meeting. It was only added a few weeks ago after his form was amended yet again, as you point out. Bob, you have filled out these forms before. Do you think that it could just be a mistake to leave this off . No. You know, with russians come in and propose giving dirt on your fatherinl fatherinlaws opponent, it is not something you forget. Russians dont approach campaigns every day. This is the first time i know of when its been so blatant. They tried this in the 90s. I watched it in the 90s and the clintons turned it down at the time and so did the dnc. They said this is off limits. But it is something they didnt forget. I just cant believe that he forgot this meeting when everybody was there. And, you know, this should be a bar to having a security clearance. And certainly a top secret security clearance. If this was a normal federal official, they would have lost their federal clearance by now. Would he have a polygraph test taken as part of the operations to get the security clearance . Is that part of the i know cia operatives have to have a polygraph to be in the cia. Cia, fbi, National Security agency, dni, the rest of them, yes. But for white house official, no. They would only get one if there was a criminal investigation and they agreed to it. And, frankly, they dont work. But anyhow, with a proper investigation, ill go back, mueller, he will get to the bottom of this, and i hope we need to get to the bottom of it was the legitimacy of the presidency is in question at this point. Sara, republican congressman made a stunning statement this week as a republican. He says President Trump should remove all of his children from the white house. It seems like were starting to see more republicans now distancing themselves from the administration. Absolutely. I think that this is the kind of silence we saw after the access Hollywood Tape emerged, when fbi james comey was fired for an unclear reason. And now were seeing republicans on capitol hill try to avoid speaking in public on this topic at all costs because theyre not sure if their defenses of the president will be rendered invalid by another revelation a few days later. It is the kind of thing thats gotten some lawmakers in trouble. A few of them defended this Jared Kushner meeting as a nothing burger before the emails emerged and then were forced to more or less retract their defense of the white house in light of the continue tents of these emails. I feel like this has had a chilling effect. And thats only going to continue as long as the administration is not forthcoming about these types of situations. Bob, do you think this was the last meeting . No. I mean, you know, what i think is that somebody picked up the thread after this meeting. You know, there is so many pieces of this that where we cant put together. Roger stone, the Campaign Advisor being in touch with the hackers. That hasnt been explained and on and on and on. And this kind of investigation, ill say, will take another year at least before we get a full picture of what happened, especially since the white house and the rest of the family are not coming clean on this story. Thank you both. Thank you. Coming up, live in the cnn news room, new details emerging about who exactly met with Campaign Officials and donald trump jr. Now former republican congressman says the team is doing much more damage to themselves, trump team, that is, but not being transparent about their interactions. 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This appears to me to be that kind of operational appeal on behalf of the Russian Intelligence Service. The Bigger Picture is that donald trump jr. , those that were at the meeting havent been totally transparent. This is another revelation after they put out multiple statements with Additional Information each time. You know, clearly, as i have said all along, a, the president should just stop talking about it. He should be a character witness for his son and go about the business of being president of the United States. Secondly, they should be transparent, open up to what they did and when they did it. Again, it doesnt appear they did anything illegal. So they should talk about it and say, maybe next i wouldnt do it that way. But the way they keep doing this, theyre doing themselves their own damage here. Theyre cutting themse