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Were in patients who had the highest dose of the medication, some 161 patients. They were followed over 18 months. Well have to see how this pans out. Its got to go through bigger trials and more locations and see if the results stay the same and that could still take several years. But fred, look, theres some 5 Million People in this country with alzheimers. The numbers are expected to triple over the next 30 years, so any possibility of hope here will obviously generate a lot of buzz. Hope is always key. Thank you so much, dr. Sanjay gupta. Thank you so much for joining me. We have so much more straight ahead in the newsroom with a ana cabrera from new york. You are live in the cnn newsroom. Im ana cabrera in new york. Somebody is lying, but the question is, who are you going to believe . Someone not really known for telling the truth or someone on record with more than 3,000 The latest news and information from around the world with host Ana Cabrera. Happened and also recommend reforms for congress to put in place and for the Executive Branch to use to devote resources so we can protect the ballot box. I think thats the most important thing we can do. Bob mueller should look at the crimes that were committed but our nations leaders should unite. If the president isnt willing to do it, its going to take bipartisan efforts in congress. We have not seen that willingness from paul ryan or Mitch Mcconnell so im afraid were going to go in just as vulnerable this november. Amid all this, putin is saying hes ready to come to washington. Hes even invited President Trump to moscow, an invitation the white house says it is open to. Im sure you have some thoughts about the meeting at all in helsinki, but if this meeting does happen, what should be the goal of this second summit of sorts . Yeah, well, first, if Vladimir Putin comes to washington, i can promise you he will not be as alone with President Trump as he would like. He will hear millions of voices in a free democracy protesting outside of the white house. But i dont think the president should have a meeting with Vladimir Putin unless he can achieve american strategic objectives, including really reducing what Vladimir Putin is doing in Syria To Support bashar al assad, reducing what Vladimir Putin has already done in ukraine and telling him were not going to accept his Annexation Of Crimea and most importantly directly con frfrong him, looking him in the eye and saying, we will not tolerate election meddling. There will be a price to pay. He had an opportunity to do that and President Trump was incapable so if were going to see a repeat of that, thats going to make america look weaker. If they were coming out of that summit to have a Press Conference and the president confronted President Putin right then and there, would that change your opinion of what you have so far surmised about their relationship . Yes. I think we would all unite behind a president who could stand up for our condition. Congressman eric swalwell, thank you very much. My pleasure. Coming up, the breakup from the guy who would take a bullet for trump to the man seemingly ready to expose all of his secrets. A look at what years of loyalty got Michael Cohen after the fbi came knocking. Plus the deadly inferno out west, thousands on the run from flames consuming homes in california. We are live. And later welcome to one of the last truly wild places on earth. Cnns bill weir is on the ground in alaska where the fight over drilling in the National Wildlife refuge is raging. Truecar is great for finding new cars. Youre smart, you already knew that. But its also great for finding the perfect used car. Youll see what a fair price is and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. Now youre even smarter. This is truecar. Electronic Dance Music hi, kids im carl and im a broker. Do you offer 4. 95 online Equity Trades . 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Even after the fbi rated his apartment, Michael Cohen reportededly said he would jump off a building. So how did he become one of trumps biggest potential legal threats . Cnns tom foreman takes a look. Reporter Donald Trumps defender you guys are down, and it makes sense. Says who . Says who . Polls. Most of them. All of them. Reporter his trusted adviser. The words the media should be using to describe mr. Trump are generous, compassionate, and mo. Reporter and most of all his lawyer. My job is i protect mr. Trump. Thats what it is. If theres an issue that relates to mr. Trump that is of concern to him, its, of course, of concern to me. Reporter Michael Cohen has been all that to donald trump and trump has returned the favor with an extremely rare close relationship. It was much more than an attorneyclient relationship. It was certainly it was something much deeper, almost father and son kind of thing. Donald trump knew that Michael Always had his back. Reporter the two native new yorkers joined forces about a dozen years ago when cohen bought a condo in a trump building, and by most accounts, they bonded quickly over their shared values and sharp elbows. Soon, cohen was handling real estate deals, helping run some companies, and even coordinating transportation for trump. They say im mr. Trumps pit bull, that i am his im his righthand man. Reporter when Trumps Campaign lit up, cohens portfolio expanded to include alleged payoffs to women claiming sexual relationships with his client even as the president has steadily denied them. Why did Michael Cohen make the you have to ask Michael Cohen. Michaels my an attorney, and youll have to ask michael. Reporter and as the russia investigation tightened, cohen famously told vanity fair last year, im the guy who would take a bullet for the president. Breaking news, the fbi today raided the offices of President Trumps longtime attorney,Michael Cohen. Reporter the president erupted. Its a disgrace. Its an attack on our country in a true sense. Reporter but while he shouted witch hunt, cohen has since gone another way, telling abc, i dont agree with those who deem pize or vilify the fbi. I will not be a punching bag in anyones defense strategy, and now, i put family and country first. For his part, President Trump, who used to routinely and warmly talk about Michael Cohen, now seems to not be saying his name publicly at all, let alone nice thins about him. Tom foreman, cnn, washington. Lets talk it over with micha Michael Zeldin and rachel koogal. Michael, i want to start with you. You know, why is cohen publicly floating his alleged Dirt On Trump and that 2016 meeting at trump tower . What is the possible legal strategy there . Thats a mystery to me. If i were advising Michael Cohen, i would tell him to not do any of the things that hes done, such as release these tapes if thats who was the source to the New York Times, go on chris cuomos show with your story to tell and then have it be told that youre going to flip on the president. I just Doesnt Make Sense to me. My years as a defense attorney, my years as a prosecutor tell me that thats a strategy thats mystifying. He should be working quietly with the Southern District of new york to try to resolve the issues and become, you know, less in jeopardy himself personally and more cooperative with their investigation. Whats wrong with this strategy, though . It makes it appear as if he is begging for a deal, that he will say anything, true or false, to get that deal and thereby undermine his credibility and utility to the Southern District. Lets take a look at trumps outside lawyer, rudy giuliani, and his evolving opinion of Michael Cohen that hes been putting out there in the media. Watch. He doesnt have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. The man is an honest, honorable lawyer. I expected Something Like this from cohen. Hes been lying all week. I mean, hes been lying for years. Going from hes an honest man to hes a total liar. Conflicti conflicting accounts there of cohens credibility. Could that end up complicating trumps defense strategy, rachel . I think two things. I think one is certainly his credibility cohens credibility is in serious question and thats why he should have kept his part in this quiet. But as far as what giuliani is saying, remember what the lawyer says cannot really be imparted to the client in that way. So this is not, you know, Donald Trumps position. Donald trumps defense. This is his lawyers argument on it and thats important, right . Theres a very big difference between what trump says about whats happening and what giuliani says about whats happening as his lawyer or mouthpiece. I also am reminded that its now been more than 20 times trump and his allies have denied, denied that he knew of that 2016 Trump Tower Meeting prior to when the New York Times first reported about it last year. Watch this. Did you tell your father anything about this . No. It was such a nothing. There was nothing to tell. Look, heres what happened. Donald trump jr. Put it all out today. Its all out. Did you know at the time they had the meeting. No, i didnt know anything about the meeting. Lets focus on what the president was aware of. Nothing. He was not aware of the meeting. It must have been a very important it must have been a very unimportant meeting because i never even heard about it. I wouldnt even have remembered it until you start scouring through the stuff. It was a wasted 20 minutes, which was a shame. So all that is what was said to media outlets, but donald trump jr. , he denied trumps knowledge under oath, so michael, if cohens claim is corroborated, could don junior end up facing Perjury Charges . Yes, false statement or perjury depending on the nature of the question and answer and thats problematic for don junior, but Michael Cohen needs to be corroborated. Right now, theres very little in the Public Domain that we know of that corroborates his version. I think a key witness here is hope hicks. What did she know, and was she aware of trumps knowledge prior to the meeting, and what numbers were called by don junior that were blocked that we dont know of yet . That may be reflective of the communication between don junior and his father about the meeting. So there are things that can be obtained that corroborate cohen or not corroborate cohen, but those have not yet leaked out into the public process. Do you think mueller already knows, though . I think mueller knows a lot. I think mueller has access to all of this stuff, but a lot of this stuff is, you know, witness dependent and it may be that if this is a new tale that cohen is saying remember, cohen hasnt spoken to mueller that it is something that mueller will now start running down. So we dont know yet whether hes looked into all of this. So listen to what cnn legal analyst paul callan is floating out there. Im going to read a part of his cnn. Com piece. He writes, if cohens claim is corroborated, it could theoretically give special Counsel Robert Mueller the leverage to propose a deal. Resign the presidency in exchange for immunity for don junior. Otherwise, don junior will be indicted for lying to the Senate Judiciary committee. Rachel, whats your take . First of all, i think thats really problematic for a couple of reasons. You know, do we really want understanding that someones unpopular but theres a constitutional process for how an impeachment, how someone becomes removed from the presidency to let someone in a position of Robert Mueller decide who the president is at any given time is a dangerous precedent to set, even if its an unpopular president. Remember, our constitutions only as good as how it protects those that are unpopular. If the unpopular arent protected then none of us are so we have to be really careful about this idea that just because he may be unpopular, he may have done some unsavory things, some bad political things, doesnt mean that someone in Robert Muellers position should really have the right to choose who is the president of the United States at any given time. Thats extraordinarily undemocratic. My takeaway from this here, michael, is really that hes suggesting that don junior may end up being the key in some way to get to President Trump. Do you think Robert Mueller would go there . No. I actually i like paul and i respect his legal opinion. I think that were donald trump jr. To be in legal jeopardy, why not just pardon him. I dont know that you need to make a deal of immunity for resignation. I dont think thats likely to happen when he possesses pardon power, and it could well be that don junior ends up in legal trouble. The president has that pardon power and well see how it goes, but i just cant see Mueller Offering muellers a conservative, not in a political sense but in a legal sense, and i dont think that that would sit well with him as the an appropriate like rachel says, i dont think that would be an appropriate way for a prosecutor to behave. All right. Thank you both. Michael zeldin and rachel kugel, thank you both for being with us. Coming up, tornados of fire. Look at these images out of california. Crews are battling a deadly blaze that is burning unchecked right now out west. 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