The point where were getting close to having the cabinet and other things i want, there will always be change, i think you want to see change. He nominated two new people to be part of his cabinet. We are getting close. We would like those two individuals to be quickly confirmed and put through that process so that they can take a seat at the table and continue to engage with the president on big issues that actually matter to the american people. It seemed to me, listening to sarah, it was almost like, okay, nothing to see here. Move along. Thats right, brooke. This is actually not what happened here at the white house. Its actually very likely that the president was looking to fire mcmaster. Now theyre trying to tamp down those concerns and Sarah Sanders said she spoke with President Trump last night and he said mcmasters job was safe for now and she was the one who passed that information along to mcmaster. Interestingly enough, the president himself didnt tell mcmaster that his job was safe, despite all of these reports. Period alexander of nbc news is correct, the president has contributed to a lot of reports that there will be a big staff shakeup here, brooke. The president openly questions and polls his friends, allies and advisers on who they think could be a good replacement for several positions here at the white house, including the chief of staff and the National Security adviser. John boldin, a favored contender. They say the media is reporting on the staff shakeups its because the president is the one polling several people. The president and mcmaster have a great working relationship, she said. She said they had several meetings together today. Based on cnn reporting, the president and mcmaster have not gotten along during their time here together in the administration and the president chaffes at the way that mcmaster briefs him. He feels hes con descending an instead prefers someone like james mattis. Enjoying watching the media report on this shakeup, delights in the conflict. A lot of that conflict here, brooke, comes from the top, the man at the top himself. What about, quickly, Stormy Daniels . The headline today from Stormy Daniels attorney that she was physically threatened to stay silent, to sign that nda. Listening to sarah a second ago she was saying i cant say much about it and i refer to you outside counsel. Is that all weve got . Very familiar tactic from this white house. They do not elaborate when they come to these questions. Its not a surprise that she did that there. When she said that the president won arbitration against Stormy Daniels, that created a lot of problems, the first time that the white house acknowledged any kind of relationship between the president and this woman. Its not surprising that instead today she wasnt going to answer and go any further on those, instead referring reporters to the president s outside lawyers here. This is continuing to be a story for this white house, as you see here, brooke. Its still being brought up many weeks after it was first brought up. Now that Stormy Daniels has done an interview with 6 60 minutes its not likely that these will go away any time soon. Sarah sanders did say there she has not spoken with the president about these claims from Stormy Daniels lawyers, which is much different from what we heard from her just last week when she said she had spoken to the president about Stormy Daniels. It seems theyre not bringing that up with the president himself before she comes out here to brief reporters. Kaitlyn, thank you so much. Lets talk more about the headlines that kaitlyn perfectly laid out. Gloria borger is with me. I want to start with this whole hncht r. Mcmaster bit. You were reporting all this material out and now you have Sarah Sanders a second ago saying she talked to the president last night, that he asked me to pass along mcmasters job is safe and she was in a meeting with mcmaster today. What was your reaction to hearing that . You know, it wasnt just me, brooke. It was me and my colleagues and people at other news organizations were all hearing the same things. And i think that, you know, she had to go in to the president. He put the kcabosh on it. He can say for whatever reason okay im not going to do that now. Maybe its because he doesnt have a replacement. Everything is up to the president. Every story is hard as jello until the president decides that. Is the way it is. We can report and kaitlyn is absolutely right. We live in this echo chamber where we talk to people inside the white house, people who were recently of the white house but no longer, people who are friends of the president. He tends, himself, to muse aloud about, boy, i would really like to get rid of that one or who do you think could come in and be my new chief of staff and on and on. But he is enjoying this. Loves it. People are paying attention to him. He looks like he is the man in charge. He thinks. I dont i think perhaps what kelly may be saying to him is, you know, we need to kind of let this settle a little bit. Although were also told that the president chaffes when kelly says he cant do things. Maybe they settled that for now. We just dont know. We dont. Gloria, thank you. Sure. I have a really interesting voice i want to bring in, former executive Vice President of the Trump Organization first hired by donald trump to build trump tower. She wrote the book all alone on the 68th floor how one woman changed the face of construction. Pleasure to have you back. First of all i wanted to ask you, you chuckled a little when you heard gloria mention every story is as hard as jello. Thats a funny line. It is. You see trump sitting back, enjoying all the conflict. Does that sound like the donald trump you used to work for . Absolutely. He loved conflict. He used to like to pit people against each other. Why . Because back in my time it was a divide and conquer kind of thing. If people were fighting against each other they were not getting together to oppose him on the crazy things he was doing. He liked that. He liked the fact he wanted to see who would survive, survival of the fittest. He had very strong people, two women that were both in residential sales and had them at each others back. He loved it. He loved watching it. Why does he feel like thats good for business, aka, why would that be good, translating it to the white house, good for the country . It certainly wasnt good for business and its not good for the country and i cant imagine why he feels that. I think he puts his entertainment ahead of his logic, if he has any. You knew him. How many years going back . This is way preapprentice. Donald trump as a businessman. You were brought in to help build trump tower. I remember the line, he asked you if you liked candy. That was a lot later. That was a lot later . Yeah. Not the nicest thing to say to a woman. You also said he is the most, what, nonsexist man you had ever worked for . I said and i was misquoted. Lets set the record straight. What was he like . What i said was in terms of the way he treated me as a person in his employ compared to the way he treated the men, there was no difference. So, in that, he was the least sexist boss. Everyone i had always deferred to me. Donald did not defer to me. He did not put me on a pedestal or anything else. He did not give me any particular respect. He put me down like he cursed me out like he did the other men. And he also took, back then when he listened to people, he listened to me and took my advice on things. He really treated me like he treated the men. When you say back then listened to people, are you inferring hes not listening to people anymore . Im absolutely saying that, yes. I dont see him listening to people. You can see somebody will go out and say one thing and two hours later, trump has said something completely opposite. Are you following this whole Stormy Daniels saga . How can you not . What do you make of it . Trump, in my time and experience with him and in watching him, he loves intimidation. While i was working for him i saw him intimidate contractors by taking a picture out of his desk drawer saying hes going to sue you. He loved to intimidate and scare people. After i left and came out against him, i was threatened by his dog, Michael Cohen, for some kind of slander case. I was threatened by his secretary, that she was going to release emails that i sent, as if i cared. When you say threatened, what kind of threatened . A threat like this is a pending lawsuit or im going to embarrass you, that kind of thing. Was it ever because the news today on Stormy Daniels is the fact that this attorney is saying she felt like she was threatened with physical violence if she talked. Coming from donald, no, not directly. Certainly a legal action that, kind of thing ive seen occur with people who worked for him, doing things that are not necessarily legal. I asked somebody would he kill for him and the man saying yes, mr. Trump and trump saying again, would you kill for me . Nothing is off the plate. Anything is possible. What do you think of the news that special counsel bob mueller is officially looking into the Trump Organization . Want subpoena these documents . Thats how far he has gone. Are you surprised . Not at all surprised, no. I think that, you know, enough information has come out that interoffice communications, emails, that kind of thing, has been used and mueller has every right to see what was going on inside the organization. When you watch the president how much has he changed . I definitely recognize his demeanor the way he carries himself, his ego. Whats different for me and this sort of came out during the campaign. I had seen a womanizer, someone who valued women by their appearances. I had never seen anything like what we saw on access hollywood. Now with Stormy Daniels and all that coming out that was a little surprising to me. Last question, do you think he loves being in the white house or do you think he knows deep down hes in over his head . Hes in over his head, he doesnt know it and he probably loves it, yeah. Barbara res, thank you. Appreciate it. More on the Stormy Daniels scandal. My next guest suggests he could be more worried about the Financial Impact of this story and not the political impact. Stunning new security breach. Russian hackers have gained alcohols to american nuclear, electrical and water systems. Its a serious threat. Well take you live to the pentagon. 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At t Network Security helps protect business, from the largest Financial Markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyberattacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. Keeping the world of business connected and protected. Thats the power of and. We are back with a bombshell allegation that the porn star is calling fact. She says she was threatened with physical violence. Im stating a fact. The fact is that my client was physically threatened to stay silent about what she knew about donald trump. We had been approached to six separate women. At least two of those women have ndas. Were in the very early stages of vetting those stories. I want to preach caution and restraint. We are not vouching for these stories, investigating them. Republican strategist, political commentator and member of the trump advisory board. Starting with all things stormy, rick, you tweeted that trump is worried about this whole stormy scandal because of financial reasons and not political. Why . He feels like his Political Base is secure. Theyve told us over and over they will tolerate any amoral ity, any scuzzy behavior. I do think he is worried now that the nda is looking more brittle and as Stormy Daniels looks at angles they could litigate on this, its going to cost him legally, financially and he will have to pay lawyers and take out a Home Equity Loan to cover his daliances with porn stars. Ouch. We have to think about melanias prenup with him. There may be a money equation there as well that hes putting at risk. If the president obviously, he is involved, two trump attorneys connected to keeping stormy quiet here. If the president is innocent why not say so publicly . I dont think the president wants to dignify this story, true or false. Its something thats personal and has nothing to do with him as president of the United States of america. It didnt happen frkts allegations are true, while he was candidate for president or while he was sitting in the oval office. This is something that is terribly embarrassing for the first lady. Thats what i think about every time i hear these stories. But it happened, paris, let me jump in. It happened days before the election and the president on his twieter feed does seem to weigh in on everything else. Sure. I think the payment did happen before the election but the alleged affair you dont think thats a big deal, the timing . Okay. Can i jump in on this for a second, paris . I think the timing im sorry. Listen, ive got i feel youre struggling here. Let me help you out here. No, no, im not struggling. Long pattern of engagement with a variety of women to whom he is not married. Michael cohen has long been out there doing these ndas with women that are in sksual capacities. This is longterm behavior. Are you telling me that they never once brought up the fact that bill clinton screwed his way through arkansas . No. They did it all the time. It wasnt the fact that he did it before he was president. Thats different because at the time, bill clinton was the attorney general and was a sitting governor of arkansas and the claims came via someone who was a sitting elected official. Donald trump, these allegations is your behavior so let paris finish. Go ahead. These allegations took place before he was president and before he was a candidate. He was not a public official and theres a different standard. Its totally different. Youre comparing apples and oranges. Paris. If, however, something hap n happened happe happened to President Trump when he was in the oval office if your standard is that low, if your standard is that low, youre okay with him screwing porn stars, just say the words, im okay with donald trump screwing porn stars. Can you say that for me, pair snis. I will say that you have no respect for mrs. Trump, you have no respect for his children, you have no respect for his family. No, im sorry. Because this has nothing to do with him as a candidate or as the sitting president of the United States. You can dig up dirty laundry and i pray to god nobody goes back in your past and picks up something that has to do with before your time as a commentator and is rude. Criticize the president. You guys, you guy, you guys, please, one of you at a time. Dont go back and criticize him for something that has nothing to do with the president. I because of his behavior toward people. Dont you dare talk about respect when he insulted the family when he inserted john mccains war service. A man who has no respect for anyone on this earth. The fact that youre defending him on that speaks much more about your character and i dont know you, rick, but i would advise you to not question my character because you dont know me. If you would like to talk to me about my character what are you going to do . I can have that conversation separately. What i will say is if youre going to impugn the integrity of the president , you may do so guys just say it, paris. Has nothing to do with his presidency. Thats all im saying. Continue to rattle. No personal insults, please. Let me just jump in. Paris, here is a question for you. We are talking about the payment coming out days before the president ial election. Let me flip it around. If this is hillary clinton, what would happen if Hillary Clintons lawyer paid off an accuser days before the election . How do you think trump would react . Fair question. I think on the issue of a payment, by the lawyer, i think he would have a reaction. Absolute absolutely. And what kind of reaction do you think that would be . It would be negative. Im certain it would be negative. Im also saying that that is a separate issue from if she did something while she was a candidate or sitting secretary of state. That is what all im saying is lets separate apples from oranges. If were going to talk about the payment and timing of that, thats fair. To bring up the allegation that happened long before he was a candidate or president but its connected. Listen, i hear you loud and clear. It happened years and years ago. Youre absolutely right in pointing out he was private citizen donald trump at the time. It is entirely germane because were talking about the payment and the hush money days before everyone went to the polls to elect him as president of the United States. That is you are allowed to connect the two there. Youre allowed to raise the question as to why Michael Cohen did that on his personal capacity as his lawyer. At the end of the day theres Attorney Client privilege and thats not going to come out. The extra comment of what stormy has to say or not to say is just to embarrass the first lady. Her commentary has nothing to do wi