Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello 201410

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello October 31, 2014

I have never seen anything like it. Ive covered a lot of trials over the last few years. This is a guy this was about a tenminute hearing. Mr. Frein was brought in. He looked thin and he looked pale but as the judge addressed him, his voice was strong, he said yes, i do, no, i dont. He was respectful. He didnt seem to be insane or acting odd in any way other than he was incredibly sober this morning. He did have a cut or abrasions on the left side of his forehead, a cut to the left side of his nose and his left cheek appeared to be bruised and possibly swollen. Police saying a short time ago that whatever he was going through in the woods up until the time he was caught was what led to those injuries on him. They said he gave up without even struggling. I think youre looking at pictures now, this extraordinary scene here at pike county courthouse where mr. Frein was brought out the front doors, held there for the press to see and then walked around. They are very concerned about him succumbing to someone trying to harm him or kill him. He is he has really angered people in this community. There must have been 30 Police Officers, sheriffs deputies and state troopers in that courthouse alone. When he came out the front door there were swat teams that fanned out around the building before he came out but they want the world to know that this is over, that they have this individual and they will be prosecuting him to the fullest. Carol . Matthew, i want to ask you about that person wap walk, pol didnt so to do that. They could have sneaked him in the courtroom but they didnt do that . Why. Well, there are a lot of reasons but over the the past several weeks there have been questions about the amount of money being spent on the investigation, how many resources were being placed by the atf, the fbi, the United States marshal service. Now the public knows that everyone is safer because mr. Frein is in custody. I would assume there were state Police Officers in attendance walking watching frein walk into the courthouse. Because we heard people call out coward. We heard applause as he went into the courthouse, applause as he went back into the police car to be taken back to the jailhouse. So emotionally tell me how Police Officers are feeling. Well, theyre feeling a small victory right now that mr. Frein has been caught. This was a senseless, heinous execution of a Law Enforcement officer and i think that the federal government, the state of pennsylvania, and everyone involved has made it very clear that you cannot execute Law Enforcement officers and go uncaptured. With the the resources brought into place, he was not going to evade the long arm of the long. I think they said 10 million, he was on the run for 48 days. They were eventually able to corner him. What happens next, joey . And you want calm in that community, so its money well spent. Apparently a halloween parade that was cancelled is back on again which is a good thing for the community. But what will happen now, carol, is what we saw is a preliminary arraignment, youre brought in front of a magistrate and conditions are set on your detention. Hes not going anywhere, hes in custody. The next stage there will be a preliminary hearing. At that time prosecutors will put forth a bare bones allegation in order to ensure his arrest was proper and theres probable cause to believe a crime was committed, he did it. Following that preliminary hearing, theres a formal arraignment where he enters a plea of not guilty and after that entrance of not guilty the beat goes on, the discovery, exchange of information with the Defense Attorneys and then the matter moves to trial. Back out to pennsylvania for another question for miguel marquez. Miguel, was any of freins family in court today . His parents at one point were speaking out. It was not clear that they were in court. I didnt see anybody from eric freins family but it appeared there may be members of either corporal dixons family or trooper Douglass Family who were brought up prior to us entering the courtroom. Its a fairly small courtroom, but i think big for probably here, but it was almost full to capacity. Also some interesting stuff coming out of the affidavit they just handed out, the amount of ammunition, water, supplies that he had on him when they found him. Carol . And, joey, what more evidence do they need to gather . As much as they possibly can. When you go before the jury, you want a compelling case if youre the prosecutor. So far theyve been able, carol, to amass that compelling information, including the information they found in his suv which had his license in it in addition to ballistic evidence that connected them to that crime. Weve talked already about what amounted to a a confession, really where his journal indicated he took the shot and the officer dropped, just in chilling detail. Negotiation that you would suspect they got information from him today, whether they spoke with him or not remains an open question. I dont know what he said that may have further incriminated himself, but the rule of thumb, you get everything and anything you need if youre the prosecutor to put on a case that is beyond a reasonable doubt, its used. I just want to talk a little bit, matthew, about how frein was captured. So hes at this abandoned hangar at this airport, right . And he just drops to his knees and gives up. Well, you know, often times when suspects are on the run for some length of time and this has been a couple of months now at the end of the day, theyre almost satisfied theyre finally caught and the hunt is over. In this case, youed that very best resources of the atf, the fbi, the United States marshal service. There was no way that he was going to evade capture for too much longer with the resources that they bring to the table. Im very excited. Im sure the public is very happy that this coward has been caught and is finally going to face justice. You call him a coward. You expected him to fight back. He had i guess there were guns found near him. He didnt have them, like, physically in his hands but they were nearby. You would have expected him maybe to kind of fight back. Thats probably why, though, carol. If the guns were within his arms reach you would suspect he may have used them. Fortunately, they werent so close to him that he tried to go out in a blaze of glory. Remember, its also likely that he began this run from justice with more things that he had on him than when we finally caught him. So along the way you get tired of carrying guns and ammunition, looking for food, trying to survive. So for as much as we say he was a survivalist, hes now in the hands of the law. And thats a good thing. Amen to that. Thats for sure. Miguel marquez, i understand you have new nuggets of information for us . One critical piece that appears to be coming sergeant to that Law Enforcement source tells us that the casings that they found at different locations where frein operated as well as the bullets that they found, a fairly rare manufacture of those bullets is now out of business match the are consistent with the 308 caliber sniper rifle and scope that he was using. They have not matched the ballistics yet, but the rifle and the casings that theyre already finding are similar in nature and they appear to be for one in the same weapon. All right, miguel marquez, many thanks to you. Many thanks to joey jackson and Matthew Horace as well. Ill be right back. 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The new Volkswagen Jetta tdi clean diesel. Isnt it time for german engineering . Now to the tense standoff between the nurse kaci hickox and the state of maine thats left a whole community on edge. Despite a defiant bike ride and her refusal to follow a 21day ebola quarantine, Health Officials say they have not reached Common Ground and while maines governor is threatening to use his full power to make sure hickox stays put, her friends say she doesnt pose a threat. Shes not going to do anything to harm herself or others or put anybody else in danger. Shes a purely passionate person and this is about doing the right thing for those considering doing Something Like this and providing aid around the world or those returning. And she brings this passion and this fervor to everything that she does. We went biking that way. We did not go into town, we did not go into the Grocery Store, we are not trying to get anyone sick. All right, lets bring in cnns jean casarez in fort kent, maine, outside of the home where hickox is staying. Tell us more, jean. Let me tell you, we have not seen a sighting of kaci hickox at all. Yesterday at this time she was returning from her bike ride but nothing today. Heres what we know we know the governor of the state is in a very heated reelection period right now, election being next tuesday. We also know that yesterday at the end of the day he issued a release that was very specific and very vague in many ways. He said there had been hours of negotiation between his attorneys with the state of maine along with the attorney general to try to reach a resolution so they would not have to go to court and that was not achieved. He then said he was going to take and use the most authority he had under law and he included in that release all the most recent cdc guidelines for someone who is at some risk of exposure for ebola. He also said this. Listen. I dont want her within three feet of anybody. What happens if she duds . Is there any legal ramifications . Lets put it this way, i am going to use the Legal Provisions to the fullest extent that the law allows me. And, carol, that doesnt come from the governor to just throw it out there i dont want her within three feet. Those are part of the brand new cdc guidelines for someone who poses some risk of exposure to ebola. They dont want someone within three feet of anyone, along with that they say you dont go to public places, you dont go to work, you dont go on commercial jetliners or public transportation, but you can go on walks and jogs and things like bicycle rides. Exactly what she did yesterday, carol. Unbelievable. Jean casarez, im sure youll continue following the story for us. We appreciate that. Jean casarez reporting live. Then there is this from new york city. As if it isnt stressful enough treating the citys first ebola patient, the New York Times is reporting the staff treating dr. Craig spencer at Bellevue Hospital is being shunned when seeking routine services. In one case, a nurse was asked by her longtime beautician to find someone else to cut her hair. So many bellevue workers reported being discriminated against it prompted this tweet from new yorks mayor bill de blasio. He tweeted were new yorkers, fear isnt an emotion we give into, especially when the facts show theres nothing to be afraid of. Standwithbellevue. Still to come, the prime suspect in the death of Heather Graham arraigned in an unrelated Sexual Assault case from nearly a decade ago. Brian todd is outside the courthouse. Good morning, carol. Jesse matthew made his First Court Appearance in a brutal assault case that took place in Fairfax County, virginia, and there were fireworks between the judge, his attorney, and other attorneys who may represent him in this case. 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But for everything we do, we know you do so much more. Tylenol® a suspected serial rapist killer arraigned in court today. Jesse matthew accused of abducting uva student Hannah Graham. But hes linked to two other cases as well. Todays Court Appearance was for a crime Jesse Matthew allegedly committed nearly a decade ago. Police say matthew grabbed a 26yearold woman from behind as she was leaving a Grocery Store on foot in fairfax, virginia, back in 2005. He then allegedly dragged her into some nearby woods and sexually assaulted her but was scared off by a passer by. Thats how she managed to escape. Cnns brian todd covered todays proceedings. Also joining me is criminal profiler pat brown. Welcome to both of you. Thanks. Thanks for being here. Brian, first to you, what happened in court today . Very interesting developments in court today, carol. Je Jesse Matthew making his first appearance appearing in a baggy blackandwhite striped prison jump suit Via Video Conference before judge dennis smith here. The judge read the charges against him. He arraigned Jesse Matthew on charges of abduction. Attempted capital murder. Sexual assault. Then Jesse Matthew did not enter a plea. He never entered a plea in these proceedings because at the time the charges were read to him he technical didnt have an attorney. Thats where it got interesting. His attorney for the Hannah Graham case, the aabduction hes charged with in charlottesville, virginia, asked judge dennis smith to be the sole attorney representing Jesse Matthew here in Fairfax County. Well, judge smith was having no part of that. He said let me tell you how things are done here in Fairfax County. Then he proceeded to say im appointing a second attorney for you here, a public defender that will work with you to represent Jesse Matthew here in fairfax. The reason the judge wants to get this trial done quickly, he wants to get it under way quickly, he believes if cam bloes is the only attorney things will move too slowly because jim camblos will have too many things to do. He also believes public defenders will know the system better. Upon hearing that news the lawyer shook his head, he was visibly angry, he made a couple other comments about procedure and they moved on. It signifies from the get go carol, theres going to be tension between members of the fairfax Public Defense office defending him here in Fairfax County and jim camblos who will also defend him in Fairfax County as well as albermarle county. That could be a problem for mr. C camblos going forward. Another problem is he requested an evaluation for sanity for Jesse Matthew. That doesnt mean hell enter an insanity plea, it mean he is may be moving in that direction. The judge said right now hes not going to field that motion, hell consider it later. But jim camblos did request an evaluation for sanity for Jesse Matthew. Stay right, there brian, i want to bring pat in now. Investigators trying to connect this rain case to the murders of two other women, Hannah Graham and morgan harrington. Do all of these crimes fit the profile . Absolutely. But in the rain case, which was ten years ago, we know this guy, if it is Jesse Matthew, hes been out there that long possibly committing crimes for almost a decade. We had a witness that theres dna in that case so if they can get them up then they have their man, if that dee say in connected to the herring con case, you cant argue with that then we have witness and video from down in charlottes swril the Hannah Graham case, here we have Jesse Matthew again. So isnt it interesting this guy is in three different places where these crimes are committed and this is typical of a serial rapist serial killer because they can be one or both. Brian, youve been digging into matthews background, you have pictures of him when he was in high school, he was a wrestler, football player, he was very outgoing. Tell us more about that. Thats right, carroll. Frien

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