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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello June 25, 2015

Funeral services for ethel lance will begin at 11 00 a. M. Eastern. Also next hour the first of two viewings for the reverend and state senator clementa pinckney. The earlier viewing will be at his home church in rich laendland ridgeland. Reporter good morning, two of the victims of this massacre will be having their funerals today. The first will be ethel lance. She was 70 years old when she died. The other Funeral Services will be for reverend Sharonda Coleman singleton singleton. Tonight at mother emanuel there will be a viewing of reverend Clementa Pinckneys body. Yesterday thousands of people showed up at the State Capitol to show their respects where he was lying in state. Now, were also learning a little bit more about reverend pinckneys funeral. We know that large delegation a bipartisan delegation will be traveling from washington to charleston tomorrow for the funeral, and we also have heard that the president has begun drafting his eulogy the eulogy that he will be delivering during the service. His speech will focus primarily on the tragedy that happened here and celebrating the nine lives that were lost but the white house has not ruled out, carol, the pocketssibility that the president could speak about some of the controversial issue that is have come to the forefront since the tragedy that happened here perhaps talking about the Confederate Flag and maybe even gun control, carol. All right. Alina machado reporting live from charleston. Turning now to the manhunt for the two killers on the run. A second prison employee is now charged in their escape and hes already out of jail. The prison guard gene palmer posted bond overnight on charges he helped the killers escape maybe without even knowing it. According to prosecutors, palmer gave the inmates a screwdriver and pliers to fix electrical breakers in the cat walk behind their cells. Those killers would later use that cat walk to escape. Palmer is accused of providing the contraband and then trying to cover it up. An official familiar with the investigation says police found those tools at palmers home along with paintings he allegedly accepted from the men as payment. After the escape palmer alleged allegedly burned or buried the paintings to destroy the evidence. Lets get more on this Boris Sanchez is live in owls head new york. Good morning, boris. Reporter good morning, carol. Palmer obviously posting bail this morning. Hes accused of unintentionally helping these inmates. Hes facing three felony counts one of promoting prison contraband two charges of tampering with evidence. Hes also facing a misdemeanor charge of official misconduct. He could face a maximum of seven years behind bars. Hes also due in court later today. Joyce mitchells bond was 200,000. Why the huge discrepancy . Reporter it likely has to do with intention. Palmers lawyer claims his client didnt know that there was a plan to escape. He says he didnt know that there were tools inside that frozen meats he passed along. Mitchell is alleged to have put the tools in the meat and alleged to have made plans to pick up the inmates once they finally got out of the prison. Tell me more about these paintings authorities said were in palmers house. He burned some of them and then buried some of them in his backyard . Reporter yeah. Investigators say that after the inmates escaped, palmer tried to burn several of the paintings that were given to him by the inmates. He also tried to bury some in the woods near his home. Investigators believe the prisoner gave him these paintings and in return palmer provided them with contraband. Thats why theyre considered evidence, thats why he being charged with tampering with evidence. Boris sanchez reporting live this morning. Were learning new details about the relationship Joyce Mitchell had with both escapees. An exinmate who served with matt and sweat in 2012 tells cnn there is no doubt in his mind that mitchell and sweat were involved. He claims mitchell would bring art supplies and food to sweat from the outside, but mitchells attorney denies the pair was having a relationship. Lets bring in former nypd Sergeant Joseph jackaloni. Is there any doubt in your mind there was some sort of intimate relationship going on between Joyce Mitchell and one or both of these inmates . There had to be. They work in such a close environment. Its just a natural that you get so familiar with them about you this one might have taken it to the next level. Im so i dont know intrigued with the right word intrigued about the paintings. Gene palmer accepted morning one painting from these inmates and he had them hanging in his house and he burned some and buried some in the backyard. Im not much of an art connoisseur but taking anything from an inmate is always against the rules, at least official mis misconduct misconduct. If you just agree to take it youre committing the crime. Hes got some serious issues ahead of him. One of the more frightening aspects of this is now authorities believe these two killers stole rifles from hunting cabins and theyre now armed. How does this change the search . This is a real possibility. I mean all these hunting cabins guns but we havent talked about camouflage clothing either which could be helping them evade during the daytime, too. As a Law Enforcement officer, this is your number one fear. We saw it with the escape with Bucky Phillips many years ago where he took guns and he actually killed one trooper and wounded two others. This is a real possibility and slows down the whole thing, too. Do you think theyre still in this area . Its been 20 days now. They dont really have sur theyre not survivalists. They dont really know what theyre doing out in the woods. No but for instance they found this one cabin. I think were going to find more where theyre breaking in eating Peanut Butter or water. Investigators havent led on what they found inside that cabin. They said there were several things. They might have some other issues that we dont want to know about in the media because we dont want to let anybody else know. So ive been asking analysts about this for several days. The search itself seems like a wild goose chase. Its here, its there, its everywhere. Its like a whack a mole strategy. Every time you get a phone call youre running hither dither and yon so to speak. You have to run down the leads. At the end of the day they will evaluate what happened and they will look back on each of the calls. 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The United States Supreme Court just released one of the most anticipate anticipated, one of the most anticipated decision of this term. Whether 6. 5 million americans will continue receiving federal subsidies to help buy Health Insurance. Our correspondents and experts are all going over the opinion right now. We want to make sure we understand exactly how these Supreme Court justices rule. Jake tapper is standing by. Hes up on capitol hill near the Supreme Court. Well be joining us live but as we await the result lets go to cnns john king over at the magic wall. John set the scene for us. King versus burwell is the name of the case. Used to be king versus sebelius. At issue is this there are Health Insurance subsidies in place in obamacare, the health care law, across the country for middle income americans. 34 states use federal exchanges. Those states did not set up federal set up their own state exchanges so they used federal exchanges. 6. 4 Million People could be affected here. Here is the argument. The argument against the subsidies is the law says established by the state, therefore those arguing the subsidies should be overturned in 34 states says the law does not allow them in those states only the 16 states that set up their own federal exchanges should have these exchanges. The government the Obama Administration arguing against that says thats not what congress intended. Despite maybe the awkward wording, congress intended the subsidyies to be available to all low and middle income americans across the country. Republicans like to cite these numbers. They say, look a majority of americans oppose obamacare. Thats not fair though. If you look at this more closely, 37 say the law is too liberal. Those are opponents. Favor and not liberal enough. If you add up those two, you get 58 . Its unfair to say a majority of americans oppose the law flatly because a good slice of that oppose it because they think it didnt go far enough. This is whats interesting as we head into the 2016 Political Year and if the court decided the subsidies are illegal, what would republicans do about it . If you look right here 88 of republicans oppose the law. 73 of democrats favor the law. So wolf as we wait for the big legal decision, whatever the Court Decides could impact a very big political debate heading into 2016. At the president ial level and if you look at the states if you look at the states where this comes into play these are the states that do not have state exchanges. People in these states get their subsidies through the federal exchanges. Let me give you a couple five states new hampshire, pennsylvania ohio illinois and wisconsin where you have Republican Senate incumbents on the ballot in 2016. So if the court makes a big reversal, it would not just be a president ial issue, it would be an issue in the congressional and senate races as well. The ramifications of this decision by the United States Supreme Court, john are enormous right now. Were going through what the justices have decided. Glor ya gloria borier ierger is with us. Personal the political ramifications going into a president ial Election Campaign season theyre enormous right now as well. Absolutely because while republicans have opposed obamacare and opposed these health care subsidies, they really dont have an alternative at this point. You have 6 million to 7 Million People who receive these subsidy subsidies who would be clearly affected by this wolf and as john points out, it would be a huge political issue. 22 of the 24 Republican Senate seats up in the next term are in the states that dont have these subsidies, and so you would be taking something away from people that they already have and if republicans have nothing to replace it with and if they were to win, they would have a political problem on their hands. On the other hand if this were if this the subsidies were upheld, this would be a huge victory for the Obama Administration. It would be a major victory for the Obama Administration gloria because this is if not the signature issue of the Obama Presidency it certainly is one of the most important issues that he has gotten forward. I want to go to cnns jake tapper up near the Supreme Court right now. Jake weve been reviewing the decision of the Supreme Court. Go ahead and share with our viewers what you have learned. Reporter well wolf what we have here is a 63 decision in which the chief justice of the Supreme Court, roberts, joined with the centrist kennedy as well as the liberal members of the court, beginsberg briar, sotomayor, and keegan. It appears to be a major victory for the Obama Administration in the obamacare case. Lets go to pamela brown who is at the Supreme Court. Reporter this was a broad ruling in favor of the Obama Administration. Today the High Court Ruling that millions of americans that are in states with federally run exchanges can keep their tax credits that help them pay for their Health Insurance. The government has said that the subsidies are the linchpin to the law, and without them the law would be gutted. It would be severely destabilized and today once again chief Justice Roberts stepping in and saving in a sense the Affordable Care act ruling in favor of the government and saying that these millions of americans can keep their subsidies. Again, a very broad ruling here. The court didnt even defer to the irs interpretation. It said that it is clear in the law that tax credits are available to individuals and states that have a federal exchange. At issue here were four words in the law, established by the state. The challenger said that makes it clear that only those americans and the states that have set up their own exchanges can get subsidies. Again, today the high court disagreeing with that and saying that all americans who need those subsidies to help them pay for their Health Insurance can keep them. Again, this was authored by chief Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy along with the liberals on the court. A big, big win for the Obama Administration. Thats right, pamela. If you look at the text of the decision, it says given that the text is ambiguous about these staterun exchanges, the court must look to the broader structure of the act. Here the statutory scheme compels the court to reject petitioners interpretation reject it. Lets go to Jeffrey Toobin with more on this. What is your take on this . It appears both kennedy and roberts completely sided with the Obama Administrations arguments. Reporter they did. One implication we know is when you walk into the barack obama president ial library in a few years, the first thing youre going to see is the Affordable Care act because this act is now here to stay unless congress overturns it because its knotts going not going to be the courts. The courts have decided this is a matter for the political branches. The paradox about todays decision is that legally and its not all that significant as a precedent, this is not a decision under the constitution. This is simply an interpretation of the law itself and it says the way the law has been interpreted so far is correct. So this isnt a decision like perhaps smetion mareamesex marriage which we may get tomorrow which will have broad implications for future decisions. This is very narrow in a way tied only to the Affordable Care act itself, but in terms of its implications for actual human beings starting with the 6. 4 Million People who are getting those subsidies, its a very big decision indeed. Jeffrey toobin once again, the Supreme Court issuing a 63 ruling in favor of the Obama Administrations interpretation of the Affordable Care act. Let me bring in professor Jonathan Turly who we should disclose you represent Speaker Boehner on a separate obamacare case against the administering, not this case but this disclosed, how are you interpreting this decision. It seems like a big win for the president. It is a big win. Its a big win politically and legally. This case divided the two circuits that are next door neighbors to the Supreme Court. The d. C. Sirte ruled opposite of todays opinion. The Fourth Circuit across the river ruled in favor of the administration and the administration prevailed. Whats curious is roberts legacy as jeffrey was talking about in saving obamacare once again. He did that with the individual mandate. Very unpopular with conservatives. And once again hes adopting the same type of broad statutory interpretation. Hes saying i need to look at the statute as a whole not just those words, and i think that this conforms with the purpose of the statute rather than send it into a death spiral if i were to rule for the petitioners. Its very uncharacteristic for a member who is associated with the right to adopt that type of broad statutory approach but he did it before when he saved obamacare the last time. That was a 54 decision so his vote was crucial. This is a 63 decision so his vote was not crucial although the fact he chose to write the opinion as the senior justice on the court not insignificant. To give credit to the administration they picked up Justice Kennedy as well. A 63 decision on a court thats usually very divided on this issue and it make

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