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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow April 17, 2018

Hannity. Michael cohens secret third client revealed. As the president s lawyers and the department of justice battle over seeing the records. Well have more on that. James comey with a new defense of himself, his words, his writing, on what is sort of day three of his book tour, listen to what he says about the president s comments that he should be in jail. The president of the United States is accusing people of crimes without evidence, and pronouncing them guilty and saying they should be in jail. That should wake all of us up with a start. There has been so much of it that were a little bit numb and thats dangerous. Make america numb again. The words from james comey right there. Just minutes House Speaker paul ryan will take questions, will dress the james comey book . The james comey comments . Will he address tensions around his own job and whether he should stay in the speakership. Were monitoring all of this for you. To florida now, Kaitlan Collins is there near the president s maralago resort. Kaitlan . Reporter well, if things couldnt get more complicated in this news cycle, now james comey is weighing in on Michael Cohen, the president s attorney. Of course, after fbi agents raided Michael Cohens house, hotel and office, youll recall that President Trump said he thought it was disgraceful and an attack on our country and james comey, in his opinion, said that means the president doesnt understand how the United States Justice System works. It shows me he doesnt know or doesnt care what the rule of law looks like. Nobody broke into anybodys office. It doesnt happen. The fbi gets a search warrant from a federal judge and conducts itself professionally, completely, and politely by the counsel of the people involved. It is a total distortion of the way things work. Reporter now, though the president was emphatic of his criticism of that raid, of course, Michael Cohen himself said he believed the agents who did who carried out the raid were polite and courteous. Were largely overall seeing this feud between the president and james comey continue. What is interesting here, john, is there was certainly a sense of anxiety in the white house before this book was released. Of course, it is officially released today. But what were seeing now is that certainly it seems like what is going on with Michael Cohen, the president s attorney, is certainly taking up the attention of the president more so than james comeys book, all of this is going on while we are here in palm beach, florida. The president is awaiting the arrival of the japanese prime minister. Certainly Michael Cohen is something that is on his mind, john. And will be on his mind for some time. Kaitlan collins, thank you very much. Two hearings down, more to come over the battle of documents taken from Michael Cohens office. For sheer spectacle, it will be thoo to top the proceedings yesterday. Stormy daniels was there, vowing on the courthouse steps to make sure everyone finds out the truth and we learned the name of Michael Cohens client number three, who insisted on radio and twitter he wasnt really a client, though he got legal advice there. Is there a distinction . Brynn gingras here with what it all means. Everyone thought the Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen being in the same courtroom would be all the drama. It wasnt. The federal judge in this case giving all sides a bit of what they wanted without making a final determination about how investigators will be able to review the seized documents from last weeks raid on Michael Cohen hee cohens home, office and hotel room. The u. S. Attorneys office will hand over copies of the seized material to cohens legal team. A judge, the judge, has asked them to get an idea of the volume of documents they believe is protected by Attorney Client privilege. This is why this whole hearing was happening. The government is also going to do the same. The president also filed a late motion wanting access to all the records as well and the judge authorized cohens team to give trumps lawyers whatever material pertains to the president and the trump organization. So as you can imagine, thats a move that trumps legal team is probably pleased with. But all of this, somewhat, overshadowed by the fact that we learned in court fox news host sean hannity is a client of Michael Cohens. And this really came out in dramatic fashion in court after the judge insisted cohens attorneys hand over a list of his clients. That short list, we know about trump, rnc fundraiser elliott broidy, and then this unnamed third client, who is hannity. Now, hannity claims he only sought legal advice from cohen and wasnt actually his client. Here is what else he said on his show. Michael cohen never represented me in any legal matter. I never retained his services. I never received an invoice. I never paid Michael Cohen for legal fees. Of course, right after that, and today, all of that up for debate. Back to this skrcriminal investigation into cohens personal and business dealings which is ongoing. It is new to us, the government revealed in course, it has been working on this case for months but in some aspects it will now slow down a bit until all sides do come back to court. The judge makes her final ruling regarding the seized documents and were learning, john, that actually could take several weeks. Brynn gingras, thank you very much. I do want to note that moments ago, Stormy Daniels did arrive at abc. She is appearing on the view. There is her Attorney Michael Avenatti arriving. I believe Stormy Daniels is with him. Or not. No . There is michael avenatti. There is Stormy Daniels right now, walking into the view with her Attorney Michael Avenatti. They claim theyre going to release the composite sketch of the person that Stormy Daniels says threatened her back in 2011 to not go forward with her story about her relationship with the president. So thats going on today as well. Joining me now, cnn legal and National Security analyst asha rangappa. Thank you very much for being with us. I want to start with hannitygate as it were. And Sean Hannitys claim that Michael Cohen performed no legal work for him, he never paid him in that cohens not his lawyer, but at the same time, there is some Attorney Client privilege there. What gives . Yeah, john. Who needs netflix . We can watch this proceeding unfold. So what is coming out here is that first Michael Cohen has gone into court and said that the government has seized all of these documents, thousands if not millions of which might be privileged. And so the judge came back and said, tell us who your clients are and we can see which of these communications are privileged. As you just mentioned, it turns out there is three clients. The third one is sean hannity. Now, in saying publicly now that Michael Cohen never represented him, and he wasnt a client of cohen, hes essentially also admitting that the communications therein were not privileged. Even if he consulted him on, you know, a narrow legal matter once or twice and those are privileged, that doesnt equate to thousands of millions. So this is kind of an odd situation where you have these two parties saying kind of opposite things. This is maybe in the end more on cohen legally than it is on hannity. Hannity has a mountain of journalistic questions to answer there. Legally speaking, cohen is the one that chose to claim that hannity was a client there, and that was just frankly odd. You also bring up a point of what is privileged, what evidence might be privileged there the government said something interesting, that they did uncover any communication. At least email communication between donald trump and Michael Cohen, which isnt surprising in a sense that we know donald trump doesnt use email. Yes, and that could end up being a big problem for the president. So even if Michael Cohen was representing him on a matter, if trump was allowing a third party to see the communications from cohen, respond to him, that is essentially a waiver of the privilege. Trumps employee, hes giving access to disclosures. It might be that what hes trying to do is create plausible deniability that hes associated, but it is going to cause problems. Because either he was a client in which case he knew about everything that is going on, including in this Stormy Daniels civil case or he didnt and there is no privilege. So what did we see ultimately yesterday from this courtroom and judge kimba wood who seemed to slow things down a little bit, but also make fairly clear that much of this evidence will be accessible to investigators. She said there will be a review process here, but i dont think you can expect the review process to keep a lot out. Right. So she basically didnt give in to cohen and trumps attorneys requests that they be the ones to go through and sift and decide which of these communications are privileged. She did ask the government to give them the communications. But what shes saying is shes going to think about perhaps having a special master, which is kind of a neutral party go through and determine this as opposed to a group of prosecutors who would be the taint team, to clean up anything here. She said she thought this might be warranted in the interest of fair in because the fairness has been contested here. Because i think thats it will be interesting to see how she comes out on that, because ultimately all defendants think these searches are unfair and the president , of all people, is probably getting the most dotting of the is and crossing of the ts by the Prosecutorial Team than anyone, i would imagine. She is setting a high bar here so when much of this stuff might be admissible, they can say that it met that high bar. Seems thats whats going on here. Asha rangappa, asha, thank you very much. Thank you. Talk now with democratic congressman ted lou about this. He joins us from capitol hill. I know youre a lawyer, you have a long legal history. I also dont expect youre much of a fox news viewer. Yet i have seen you commenting quite actively about sean hannity here. Do you have legal questions for sean hannity about what was revealed yesterday . Thank you for your question. Let me first say congratulations on completing the Boston Marathon and raising money for the boys and girls club. You looked great. In terms of sean hannity, what struck me was that he failed to disclose that he had a special relationship with Michael Cohen, he always says friend. He got free legal advice from Michael Cohen and viewers have a right to know was sean hannity upset about the raids of Michael Cohens office because he thought there was a legal issue or was he upset because Michael Cohen was his friend. When sean hannity hides that fact from his viewers and doesnt let fox news know about it, thats a breach of journalistic ethics. I appreciate you being a fan of journalism, but there isnt anything legal there, correct . That is correct. The reason that im interested in Michael Cohen issue, last month, congresswoman Kathleen Rice and i, both former prosecutors, we wrote a letter to the fbi asking them to investigate Michael Cohen as well as the National Inquirer because both of them made large monetary payments to silence two women who had negative stories about affairs about donald trump during a president ial campaign. That was a violation of Campaign Finance laws and i think thats one of the things that the fbi is looking at right now. It seems as if maybe your letters were after the fact. It does seem as if the fbi and this other district may have been investigating Michael Cohen for other issues before that. One more final question on Michael Cohen, what do you make of judge kimba woods decision to slow things down a little bit and create this review process for the evidence that was seized . Would you like to see it be reviewed by investigators right away or are you okay with the more careful approach . I support judge woods decision. And ultimately what she did yesterday, she upheld the rule of law. She rejected Donald Trumps and his attorneys requests to have these documents not reviewed by the prosecution, the judge rejected that. What she did say is she might appoint a special master to assist the prosecution and the defense, but make no mistake, the prosecution is going to review all the documents and it shows again that no one is above the law, not the president , and not his attorney. The defense will get to see them, though. I imagine that is something they were keenly interested in as well, to get a sense of exactly what the fbi has here. Im not sure they were able to fully ascertain what evidence was seized. Frank rooney, a friend of mine and columnist for the new york times, he assesses the james comey situation as such. He goes with the way that comey has written his book, which charts every last tremor of his conscious and the staging of his appearance and promotion of it, he has embedded his own transformation from a crucial witness to a character in a serial drama of nonstop spectacle of trumps life. That drama only serves trump. The question is, you know, im sure you would be critical of comey and supportive of comey over time as well, do you think the way jeroames comey has writ the book and gone about the interviews has helped or hurt his overall argument about the president s fitness . Thats a great question. Comey is a complicated figure. And while i disagree with his policy judgments regarding Hillary Clintons emails and disclosing that investigation to the american public, i was able to interview him as part of the House Oversight committee in 2016 when he came to capitol hill. I believe that he is a man of integrity. I dont agree with what he has chosen to do, i dont have anything to doubt what he is saying about the president. I believe his recollections are true and i think that ultimately hes helpful to the American People. The hand size and the hair color and maybe some of the salacious details, that too, that included . I would not have written a book that way, but im talking more about his recollections and conversations about michael flynn, and obstruction of justice. I have no reason to doubt that is not true. Ted lieu, thank you for being with us and thank you for your comments about the Boston Marathon. You said i looked great. That is not true. Fact check false, but thank you nonetheless. Paul ryan is taking questions now from reporters as he briefs them were monitoring this. Hes not taking questions yet. Well have much more on this coming forward. New russia sanctions, so are they in or are they out . Mixed messages from the administration. Stay with us. 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I think he i was also impressed with the fact he made a multilateral effort, that the french and the brits joined us in this attack. We need the peaceful democratic nations of this world need to stand up and speak against and act against the spread of these horrific weapons. I think the president did the right thing. House Speaker Paul Ryan not really answering the question about what happened when u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations nikki haley said that new sanctions against russia were coming, she said that on sunday, and then monday they did not happen and it seemed the white house backed off them at the direction of the president. Joining me now, cnn National Security commentator, former chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers. Thank you so much. Lets walk down memory lane, go to the wayback machine, way back on sunday when the u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations nikki haley clearly not freelancing made this announcement on the sunday shows. So you will see that russian sanctions will be coming down. Secretary mnuchin will be announcing those on monday if he hasnt already. And they will go directly to any sort of companies that were dealing with equi

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