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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow August 9, 2018 14:00:00

The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. Meaning, is he going to say okay if they dont come to an agreement on an interview . Ill just write a report without it. Is he going to launch a subpoena fight, which will take months and months and months. And go to the supreme court. Exactly. And its risky for Robert Mueller to do that. Because he might not win. And it just really depends on what he has and what he thinks he needs to ask the president. So its so unknown that the Trump Legal Team is and particularly on the political side of it, theyre doing what they have to do. And guiliani, along with the president , and jay sekulow, to a lesser extent, they have realized that what they have control over right now is the court of public opinion. Sure. And so theyre going to continue to push that. And they also realize, especially guiliani, when i talked to him about this particular issue, that the democrats are really, really energized. And republicans are more cocomp. And thats been obvious in all the special elections. And they think, well, maybe if there is a threat of impeachment of the president , that could get republicans energized. Which is what devin nunes was trying to do at that fundraiser where we have the audio. Ill play that in a moment. First i want to get your reaction from the fox news sound last night. Rudy guiliani went on for this interview on fox last night, and then he made an argument that there would be a violation of doj rules by mueller if he doesnt wrap it up. Lets listen to what he said. Well, i think if it isnt over by september, then we have a very, very serious violation of the Justice Department rules. The reality is, the real story here is not that this case isnt going to fizzle, its going to blow up on them. The real question is what we were talking about before. Theres a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. A lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier. Okay. There are two questions about what answer. Let me ask you the first. And that is, a 60day rule . So what hes talking about is not a hard and fast rule. Its a custom and tradition. And what the custom and tradition is inside the Justice Department is to avoid taking explicit public investigative steps, or returning indictments against a candidate for office within 60 days of an election. Now, the president of the United States is obviously not up for reelection. However i mean, its a unique situation. He effectively is on the ballot. And comey did it. And comey did it when Hillary Clinton really was on the ballot. Yeah. And that was and thats a big part of the criticism of comey for doing that. He broke that custom. So this is what why guiliani is making the argument. And thats why when we talk about this dragging into the mid terms, its its a question of whether or not mueller is going to continue his investigation, but assuming he will follow these guidelines, but do it quietly. Not do anything meaning, not say im going to interview the president between labor day and election day or return indictments in that window. He could continue to work, and then pick it up in a public way after the election. I mean, its pretty clear that Rudy Guiliani is capitalizing on muellers silence here. Mueller hasnt said nor will he say anything publicly about this. Hes not giving any interviews, et cetera. And when you heard guiliani at the end of that sound bite say there is a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet, do you know what hes talking about . No. No. I mean, i assume its just the same trying to paint the mueller investigation, the mueller team, as partisan, as the witch hunt, is the term they like to use. Beyond that, i dont know that we have any specifics. But it is noteworthy that guiliani continues to really throw as much out there as he can. And hes pretty obvious about it. Its not like a big mystery what their strategy is to try to stir things up. Use as bold language as they possibly can. In a very donald trump way. Because for donald trump, in various venues, its been successful. It works. Dana, stay with me. And manu is with us, as well. Lets all talk about what i mentioned with devin nunes, the republican congressman of california, huge Strump Support Trump supporter, he gave this very expensive private fundraiser ask, someone was in there recording. He was talking about the Mueller Probe and the importance he sees for republicans to, of course, he argues, stay in the majority in november because of the Mueller Probe. Heres what he said. So therein lies so its like your classic catch22 situation, where were at a this it puts us in a tough spot. Recessions wont cover were the only one. Which is really the danger. Thats why thank you for saying that, by the way. I mean, we have to keep all these. We have to keep the majority. If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. Manu, why is that significant . Well, this is the first time we are hearing devin nunes say so bluntly that the House Republican majority is necessary to help the president , protect the president , from Robert Mueller. That is a pretty stark assessment from the house intelligence committees chairman, who has been accused for months and months and months by democrats for doing exactly that. Using his Committee Perch to try to protect the president from the mueller investigation. Youll recall, poppy, last year he came under enormous controversy when he went to the white house to greet the president about something he thought was improper. He later was forced to step aside from that investigation. The democrats try to push for a number of witnesses and subpoenas. Nunes continually squashed those efforts, and he tried to move forward with his own investigation that is now moving at a rapid pace to look after what the Justice Department and how the if fbi conducted the russia probe, all to paint the picture this was a Very Nefarious Act Taking Place by the fbi and launching the investigation in the first place. Now we are hearing, perhaps his real motivation behind this, he believes its necessary to protect the president from the mueller investigation. So its a pretty remarkable assessment. And also standing beside a republican leader, cathy mcmorrisrogers, someone who has been on this very issue, pretty remarkable to hear him say that. Who struggled a lot on tuesday. She particularly. Dana. Can i just add to echo what david was saying around here internally this morning. Its not his job to protect the president. Its actually constitutionally the job of congress to check the executive branch. The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. Leader. The washington leader in their party. And so that separating themselves of the leadership is a very important tool, democrats believe, on a National Level to getting elected on a local level. And were really seeing that across the board. If those democrats do get elected yeah. Nancy pelosi could be in serious jeopardy. If they keep those promises. And this is someone, manu, who has raised so much money for the party. I mean, you can be very critical of her, but she is good at fundraising. No question about it. Thats one reason why a lot of democrats want to keep her. But to echo danas point, she has a real math problem. If the democrats take the majority in the fall. If the democrats keep the majority, but lets say they have maybe 10 to 20seat majority, she probably will not have the votes on the floor to become the speaker. So a huge problem for her, which is why a lot of pelosi critics say why not step aside now, take away that issue that republicans are seizing on in the campaign trail, because its going to be very difficult to become speaker again, given all the opposition from the left flank of the party, poppy. Dana bash, with the blonde hair, manu raju not blonde hair. Great hair, too. He does have a good head of hair. Gray hair. Thank you both very much. Still to come, Paul Manaforts trial back under way this morning. The prosecution is preparing to rest its case this week. The defense takes its last shot at the governments star witness, rick gates. Also, new york congressman, chris collins, defiant after being indicted for securities fraud. Well speak to one of his republican colleagues. 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Then yesterday when that very same witness, michael welch, was to take the stand and took the stand, the judge interrupted and said, i didnt allow witnesses. I didnt allow experts in the trial, and i never allow experts in the trial. The government was worried that it an inference of impropriety by the government might have been suggested to the jury. So they filed a motion overnight, asking the judge to correct the record. And give the jury an instruction, saying, the judge was in error when he scolded the prosecution for allowing an Expert Witness to sit in and listen to previous testimony, and this morning, the judge apparently agreed, he did that. And this is the quote. This is what he told the jury at the start this morning. He said, put aside any criticism. I was probably wrong in that. This robe does not make me anything other than human. The background to it is, this is a very smart judge, often smarter than the attorneys, and he also has a very sharp tongue and a biting wit. And hes used it quite frequently during the governments case. There have been many, many sparring matches between the judge and the attorneys for the government and obviously hes won virtually every one, because its his court. Poppy, back to you. That it is. Joe johns, thanks so much. Let us know what happens as this gets under way again this morning. Still to come, it has been nearly a year since Hurricane Maria devastated puerto rico. Now the government is acknowledging the number of people who died as a result they say is 20 times higher than the original official death toll. Our layla santiago, who has been all over this story, joins me next. The day after chemo might mean a trip back to an incomplete dose could increase infection risk. Ruptured spleen, sometimes fatal as well as serious lung problems, allergic reactions, Kidney Injuries and Capillary Leak Syndrome have occurred. 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Our correspondent, layla santiago, who has been extensively covering this since right before the Hurricane Hit and been pressing and pressing for answers joins me now. So what are the details here . Reporter and i continue to press for answers, poppy. Just got off the phone with a spokesperson from the government of puerto rico, and they are saying, look, this is not new information. And in a way, what theyre saying makes a little bit of sense here. These numbers actually came out in june. What happened in june . Well, we sued, and after we sued, the judge ordered the release of information from the registry of demographics in puerto rico that really highlights the stats when it comes to deaths after Hurricane Maria. But this was now made even more public in a report that they submitted last night to congress in which they continue to say that the official death toll remains at 64. But acknowledge that in the statistics, when you look at the number of deaths after Hurricane Maria, there is that increase of 1,427. But just now, when i was speaking to the government, they still continue to say, even though were seeing this increase, we are not prepared to say that all of those were related to Hurricane Maria. So why is that . Well, they commissioned a study back in late january, early february, from George Washington university to look into the deaths, and the government has said publicly that until that study is complete, they dont plan to make any changes to the official death toll. Despite our investigation that found the number could be nine times higher. Despite Harvard Universitys study that found it could be anywhere from 800 to 8,000 deaths related to Hurricane Maria. Given the conditions that came after the hurricane, right . Because those that happened right during the hurricane. And then there were all the deaths that came because of lack of power, because of lack of water, because of the condition of daily life after Hurricane Maria. So when do we expect this study commissioned by the puerto rican government to come out . I just talked to them on the phone, and they tell me they expect more information from that study this month. But once again, another acknowledgement from the government that the number, 64, is not correct. But theyre not willing to change it just yet. And to be clear, layla, this number, 1,400 American Citizens, that came out the day after you, cnn, filed this lawsuit to get answer . Reporter right. It actually came out the day the judge ruled in our favor. The day after the judge ruled in our favor, saying, listen, puerto rico, you have to release these numbers for public records so that we can get to the bottom of this. The next day was when the government put out this number that youre now seeing once again in the report are that went to Congress Last night as they asked for more funding for recovery efforts. You just wonder why it would have to take a judge ruling that way to get straight answers. Layla, thank you. Under indictment. This morning, new york republican congressman Collins Chris collins, out on bail, still on the bal

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