Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow 20150802

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow August 2, 2015

The beaches on the island are being scoured for in i additional debris. A leading theory in the disappearance of Malaysia Flight mh370 is someone deliberately steered the plane off course from the cockpit. Now were hearing of another possibility. A Security Breach that could have happened right under the pilots feet. Reporter the washedup debris still brings pilots no closer to a consensus on the greatest mystery of their profession. Theres all kinds of theories. Everybody has a different theory. Reporter u. S. Intelligence agencies believe its likely the plane was deliberately steered by someone in the cockpit. But retired United Airlines pilot flew the 777 and trained about i lots on the jet at boeing. He says the debris launched a new round of speculation among his fellow pilots. Among the theories a section of the aircraft known as the ee ebay or Electronics Bay may have been breached. Whats in the Electronics Bay . This is basically the brain and heart of an aircraft. In case of a 777, which is a very highly electronic aircraft all the electronics that control the entire airplane are in that electronic bay. So this is the most important part of this aircraft. Other than the engines. So every pilot that flies a 777 knows how to get down there. Reporter its designed for maintenance access. But here you can manage all Flight Systems taking total control of the plane. Were not going to show you where the access is on the aircraft. But we will show you whats widely available on the internet. In this aviation video viewed tens of thousands of times online you can see in the bay various electronics, wires and green tanks. The concern floated by some pilots they say boeing manufactures and delivers a 777 with an unsecured access door. Most of the airlines add a lock and the access is hidden. So only crew and perhaps some Aviation Enthusiasts would know how to get in. Thats why a breach aboard mh370 is something that pilots says is possible, but unlikely. Investigators around the world found no immediate red flags from anyone onboard. More likely believes aimer a catastrophic fire or even that one of the crew perhaps the captain or copilot were somehow involved. One of the things that investigators do they never leave any stone unturned. They look at just about any possibility. Reporter cnn, los angeles. It is one of the theories being floated. Lets talk about it with two pilots. Thank you both gentlemen, for being here. Les, you flied a 777. You talked a lot about this e e compartment. Do you think it could have been compromised on mh370 . Anything can be on the table. But in order to get into that compartment from the cabin, youve got to disrupt cabin service, youve got to lift up a rug, it goes on and on. So somebodys going to notice this. And if you get in from outside the airplane the access is different. Somebody may have noticed. I know malaysia may have some lax security procedures but there are procedures in the United States that you can know this that if somebody tried to gain access you would have to get a lot of people in there to gain access to an airplane and take it over in a hijacking situation. If you wanted to disable the systems on this airplane they have to youd have to have a heck of a i. T. Knowledge of what you were disabling, and to steer the airplane would require very you know mixssion impossible type knowledge. Do you agree . It is possible when the plane took off there was somebody there. The fact that its open is not a great idea. But from that room you have access to all of the Circuit Breakers for all the systems, including the Circuit Breaker for the cockpit door. If you pull that Circuit Breaker, the door is deenergized. And if its deenergized, it fails to open. You dont want to lock the pilots in. You may not have to fly the airplane there when compromised. It is an achilles heel. It should be locked. The regulatory authorities should take a stand on this. Lets talk about the report that came out late this week. Reporting what u. S. Intelligence has surmised. Something that they put together in this preliminary assessment months ago, before the piece of boeing 777 washed up ashore this week. Something that wasnt intended for the public to see. But it suggests that someone in the cockpit deliberately a caused the aircrafts movement to veer offcourse before it vanished. I want to be clear here because u. S. Intelligence never said in this report that the plane was deliberately crashed, just that it was deliberately veered offcourse. Why is that difference so important, les . We can go through virginia scenarios where somebody else was trying to control that airplane maybe for the purpose of getting it back to an alternate airport because of an emergency situation that they had. We dont have time to go over some of the scenarios. But indeed thats possible that somebody from the cabin that didnt suffer hypoxia situation, could have come up there and used the autopilot to steer the airplane. That scenario is definitely a possibility. But once again, anything is on the table. Miles, when you look at the u. S. Intelligence report, they only say somebody deliberately veered the plane offcourse, not that they crashed it. In your mind theres no question the plane was deliberately downed. Why is that . Theres just no way, poppy, and i know les will pick a bone with me on this but theres no way to pick up a scenario to cause all of the radar tracking Communications Systems to suddenly go blank at that convenient spot that spot during a handoff between the control of conversations. Theres no scenario that allows you to claim a catastrophic enough event to allow the plane to fly that circuitous route for seven hours. It doesnt jibe. There was a deliberate action involved here. Les is saying it was neshlly a response to an emergency situation. That is potentially the case except how do you explain it flew on for seven hours. Les, how do you explain it . Ive always disagreed with miles. Ive looked at the mechanical aspects. I can explain the scenario that could have possibly shut down the systems and done weird things to the airplane. You know once again, miles and i are both speculating on this. So we have to respect each others opinion in that regard. But i really i just dont see the purpose. I dont see anything that traces back to a nefarious act. 17 months later, and still so few answers. We dont even know if the parts washed up ashore is from the mh370. I hope the family members get answers this week. Les and miles, thank you both. Youre welcome. To california now, two Deadly Wildfires raging out of control in california. Coming up, a live report from the evacuation zone. A new season brings a new look. A chance to try something different. 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Homeowners in california are nervously watching several wildfires this weekend, ready to evacuate their homes if they need to. The fire in sacramento doubled in size this weekend alone. Stephanie elam is live in lake county california. This is the last thing the state of california dealing with that horrific drought needs. Youve got the resources to fight the fires already stretched thin. What are they doing them to contain them at this hour . Reporter thats so true poppy. Youre talking about the 21 wildfires burning across california. California has a unique system where theyre able to work with each other across the state and get resources where they need them. But still, that doesnt help when you just have fires burning all over the place. We have now arrived in lake county where this rocky fire is burning. This fire started wednesday afternoon. And it has ballooned overnight here. It went from the low 20,000 acreage area to now being about 47,000 acreage area. A massive fire is how cal fire is describing this fire as it is threatening some 3,000 people. They have 2,000 firefighters working to stop this fire. But take a look behind me. We came around the ridge after we came out of a Little Mountain range here and you could see that smoke there. We saw a big plume going up into the sky. It is now dissipating into this big massive helicopter that i can see dropping way out there. You may not be able to see it. It is dropping water right now, or fire retardant on this area. But because of this there are some massive evacuations affecting thousands of people. As this fire continues to burn. And one thing thats really different about this fire is the fact that it is burning it burned overnight to this big expansive ballooning number of acreage. That is weird, because normally at night the humidity rises the temperature cools off, its not as easy for the fire to burn. But because it didnt do that this is weird, and the main reason that is a problem is because of the drought. And the drought has just left everything so brittly dry here theres so am kindling so much reason for the fire to keep on burning, its continued to use that as fuel to burn more and more acreage. The drought has been lingering year after year that is the reason why it is so difficult for those folks who are out here fighting fires. And if you see one other thing, see how my clothes are blowing in the wind . Thats the other problem. Its so windy out here its easy for the fire to go from one branch to the next and keep on burning. Well see if we can get closer. But that is the big bulk of it there, you can see, is from that rocky fire. Stephanie elam reporting right near the evacuation zone. Stephanie, thank you very much. Huge fires on another continent. These are out of australia. Firefighters there battling a huge brush fire in New South Wales Blue Mountains n that part of australia. Rain helped them get it a little bit under control. It is feared the very difficult terrain will keep these fires going for days and davis. Just incredible images there. Switching gears to politics now. Tomorrow the white house sets in motion the most aggressive nationwide Climate Change program yet. The socalled Clean Power Plan typical as a lot of them looking at what the white house just released. Not everyone is happy about it. Youve already got republican backlash. Also executives in the Energy Business arent going to be thrilled about this. Lets talk about it here. Walk us through it here. This is an extensive list coming out late this afternoon from the white house. Thats right, poppy. I want to first tell you the contours of the plan that will be announced by the president here at the white house tomorrow. The plan calls for new regulations on coalburning power plants with the goal they say, of reducing Carbon Emissions by 32 over the next 15 years. It would set Carbon Pollution levels for states. The white house is already touting that there are potentially big benefits including a boost in public health. Also potentially job creation with investment in the clean energy technology. But as you said even before this rule was announced, it was definitely getting some pushback. Some states promising to fight the administration and potentially bring the administration to court. It seems the white house is aware of this likely big pushback that theyll receive to these new rules. Theyre already out and promising an allout push to sell this deal. President obama in a video released on social media from the white house overnight already pushing the benefits. Climate change is not a problem for another generation not anymore. On monday my administration will release my own version of the Clean Power Plant. The biggest most important step weve ever taken to combat Climate Change. There are many groups that dispute all these benefits that the white house is touting. Many critics saying it could potentially increase electricity prices. What marco rubio, who today lashed out against the potential proposals, he said that this does not address the underlying issues. Heres rubio in california today. Tomorrow there will be a new carbon rule issued by the epa. And heres the Practical Impact of the new carbon rule. It will make utilities, it will make the cost of electricity higher for millions of americans. So if theres a billionaire somewhere that is a procap and trade person they can probably afford for their electric bill to go up a couple hundred dollars. But if youre a single mom, that is catastrophic. With all this pushback the white house put president obama on the road in the next few weeks to sell this deal. He already has plans later this month to speak at the National Clean Energy Summit in nevada. Hell also travel to alaska. Hell be the first sitting president to travel to the alaskan arctic. Theres a lot of political and potentially legal challenges ahead for them. Huge hurdles ahead, no doubt. And the summit in paris in december. Lets talk about this in the framework of the president s legacy. You have seen this president in the last six months you know, just not holding back. This is a huge thing to take on. Huge money, huge power lobbyists on the other side here. This is what hes saying like with immigration and other things who cares, were going for it. Yeah. Thats probably what is going on behind closed doors. We dont know for sure but we know Senior Administration official telling us earlier today this is one of the biggest issues on his plate right now. Certainly a deal has been elusive. He knows what hes coming up against. I feel like i get a sense from the white house the way they pushed out this announcement theyre ready to take this on. As they say, in their words, putting an allout climate push over the august recess. They will fan out, not only send president obama out, but members of the cabinet to get into the district. Really educate people on the terms of this proposal. And then wait for congress to return in the fall. Poppy . Thank you very much. Coming up next right here in new york a huge outbreak of legionnaires disease in the south bronx. What the Health Officials are doing to try to prevent the outbreak from spreading even more after four lives have been claimed. When i lay in my tempurpedic contour, then i slowly feel it start to kind of wrap itself around me. My mind just goes kind of blank and the next thing i know its morning. 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