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Are people responding . Reporter you know, we actually just talked to miami beach, jim, and they reopened parks on wednesday and were learning that they just closed one park because people were not adhering to the social distancing guidelines. But when it comes to the state of florida, it really is using a geographic approach. Most of the state will be kicking off and reopening today with phase 1, except for three counties, and thats miamidade where i am, broward and palm beach. These three counties make up 30 of the state, but they account for 60 of the deaths and the cases as well. Thats why these three mayors got together and they decided to reopen together. They are exempt from phase 1. But like i mentioned, they did reopen parks, waterways and other green spaces starting on wednesday, and were learning from miami beach, at least in that locality, people are not following the rules. And so local governments are ready to close some of these parks if they see that the rules are not being followed. When it comes to the rest of the state, phase 1 kicks off today. This means that restaurants and Retail Stores will be able to operate at 25 capacity indoors. When it comes to outdoor seating for restaurants, they are allowing it but seating has to be at least six feet apart. Elective surgeries will also resume, and Governor Ron Desantis announced that 80 state parks will also reopen. But this is only phase 1. So schools are still closed, bars, jim, hair salons are also closed. But as the state looks at phase 2 and trying to get to phase 2, Governor Ron Desantis is mentioning that facts will be very important and testing will be a focus. For example, he is allowing pharmacists to administer covid19 tests, so very soon here in the state of florida, were going to see covid19 tests being administered at cvs, at walmart, at walgreens. Also he has deployed a mobile unit to try to test people at nursing homes. Finally, jim, antibody testing. The state of florida has been waiting for these tests for weeks, and finally over the weekend, Governor Ron Desantis announcing that the state just received 200,000 antibody tests. Were expecting those tests to be administered throughout the state at some point this week. Jim . Rosa flores in florida, thanks very much. Now to california where two counties in the northern part state of the, uba and sutter counties, are defying Governor Desantis stayathome order, today opening restaurants, salons and gyms. The Fourth District supervisor for uba county, thank you for taking some time this morning. I know that officials across the country have tough decisions to make. There are Enormous Economic consequences here, but there are also the health risks. If you see an uptick in cases after relaxing these restrictions, will you take responsibility for any uptick in cases . So it isnt just the uptick in cases that we are going to be monitoring hereuba and sutter. The key we will be watching is hospitalizations, and the reason were watching those is were increasing our testing capability starting today, so we fully expect an increase in cases with an increase in testing. But we are hopeful we will not see a large increase in hospitalizations. Okay. If you do, is that on you, in effect . So if we see a large increase in hospitalizations, we will certainly look to go the other direction. We do not want to overwhelm our Health Care System here. Currently we have plenty of capacity. We have Surge Capacity set up. But if that appears to becoming an issue, we will go back the other direction. I see. So in effect youre setting up a system here where you ratchet up and down the restrictions based on the level of hospitalizations you see. Absolutely. Its science based, based on conditions here locally. Were really taking an approach of what is the risk of various business and activities to covid19 spread, and to determine that, our Health Officer looked and used a study from Johns Hopkins that stes essentially looked at both the amount of people that you would be in contact with in that activity and that business as well as the proximity of those individuals and the so the duration and the proximity and the amount of people. Understood. Looking forward, the real question here is do folks respond, right . Do people, as these businesses open in the county say, i am comfortable. I have this option but i am comfortable. What response are you seeing on the ground there as you begin to relax these restrictions . So i think some individuals are very excited about the relaxed restrictions and others are not. And those individuals are welcome to continue to stay home. Were certainly wanting our highrisk individuals to stay home, and those who do choose to go out, practice social distancing. That will be critical to the success of the reopening. Are individuals in the business taking personal responsible for their actions and assuring they maintain social distancing at all times, as well as when that may not be possible, to wear a mask. Gary bradford, we wish you and the people in the county the best of luck going forward. Great. Thank you. This morning pressure is mounting on michigans democratic governor to ease restrictions in that state, but Gretchen Whitmer is refusing to back down. She slammed the racism of some demonstrators who gathered outside the State Capitol last week. The confederate flags and nooses, the swastikas, the behavior that youve seen in all of the clips is not representative of who we are in michigan. And the fact of the matter is, i mean, were in a global pandemic. This isnt something we just negotiate ourselves out of, and its a political matter. Whether you agree with me or not, im working to protect your life if you live in the state of michigan. Im going to continue to do my job regardless of what tweets come out or what polls come out or what people think makes sense. Well, detroit mayor mike duggan, also a democrat, joins me now. Mayor, always good to have you on this program. During a press conference last week, you said that the coronavirus outbreak in your city appears to be, quote, strongly on the decline. Today the first wave of detroit city workers are beginning to go back under some restrictions for safety. I wonder, is your city, in your view, ready to relax some of these restrictions . Well, three weeks ago we were slammed. We were losing 40 or 50 residents a day from our desks. Our hospitals were overwhelmed, gurneys in the hallway. But the social distancing in detroit is to dom pcom come rep hospitalizations have dropped dramatically. We have road crews and construction crews. Before they can come back, they have testing coming in, social distancing, theyve got masks. Its the same protocols we put in our police department, our Fire Department and our bus system, and we had dramatic positive effect in bringing down the infections in all of those operations. So were not bringing people back sitting next to each other in cubicles and desks. This state isnt ready for that. But we definitely believe we can bring people under these protocols for outdoor work back safely. Your governor, as you know, is under pressure to ease restrictions statewide. Here you are, youre a mayor, youre easing some restrictions as you get comfortable with it. Do you support the easing of restrictions in the state, either areas that have not had outbreaks as bad or where theyre seeing a decline in cases . I completely support what Governor Whitmer is doing and what im doing is consistent with her orders. For people around the country, this probably looks confusing. In michigan, there are 4 Million People in southeastern michigan and detroit and the suburbs. The coronavirus is spread throughout that 4 million. The rest of the state, there is a lot of farmland where theyve seen very little of covid19. So the protests youve seen in lansing are 100 miles away from here, and you dont have very many people in southeastern michigan. The protests dont have a direct impact on us, but people in detroit have been following the governors orders. I havent had to close parks, i havent had to make curfews because weve had great compliance. I think dr. Birx cited the city of detroit in particular for rapid containment efforts in the country. We are still going down, but we are only bringing people back to work under the strictest medical protocols. Every Health Official weve spoken to on this program has said to go back safely, to ease restrictions safely. You have to have broadbased testing and contact tracing. Michigan is averaging 40 tests per 1,000 people today, but it should be about four times where it is right now. I just wonder, are you getting ahead of the game here by opening up before you have that kind of testing across the board . So the city of detroit is testing 1,500 people a day. We lined up test kits, we lined up lab capacity, we have a massive thrivethrough test site at the fairgrounds. The contractors are going back to work today. Last week they all went through the test site. Those who were negative came back, those who are positive are being quarantined, but everyone here is being directed by our medical director, and in the city of detroit we are success fortunatelily testi successfully testing at a very high rate. Ive offered testing at every grocery store, every nursing home. They are all bringing their employees through the testing site and getting testing. 10 of the time they have covid19. This is why this is spreading and why its so essential that all workers get tested, not just those with symptoms. Mayor mike duggan, we wish you and the people of detroit the best of luck. Thank you. This morning the coronavirus is forcing an historic change for the Supreme Court, the nine justices hearing oral arguments not in person but by teleconference. The phone hearings kicked off moments ago involving the travel site booking. Com. Arianne joins me from the courthouse. Its remarkable because were hearing the arguments and the questioning in realtime. Reporter right, its the first time that justices have had oral arguments by phone, but its also the first time that theyve let the public listen in. For years people had to wait in line for a coveted seat in that courtroom, and now everybody today can listen in and hear oral arguments. This is going to change the way the justices digest the case. Usually the roberts bench is a very hot bench with the justices asking a lot of questions, and today theyre going one by one, justice by justice. I also talked to a lot of attorneys who were nervous coming in, jim, because they said they have kids at home, dogs, theyre worried about technological glitches, but theyre also worried about not being able to look the justice in the eye to get a reaction. We have had the start of one of the cases today. Chief Justice John Roberts asked the first question. Even Justice Clarence thomas piped in. He doesnt usually ask questions during oral arguments. Take a listen to a little bit of the audio here. Honorable, the chief justice and the associate justices of the Supreme Court of the United States. Oh, yea, oh, yea, oh, yea. All persons having business before the honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States are admonished to give their attention. Reporter and we know that all the justices are healthy. The Public Information officer told us that, jim, but they havent met together in the same room for weeks. So the Supreme Court has a lot of big cases coming over the coming days and weeks, including cases involving the trump administration. Give us a sense of them. Reporter right. Well, todays argument is kind of an under the radar trademark case, but on wednesday theyre hearing a big case regarding the mandate. Next week well get the bid for the president to shield financial documents from disclosure. Those will be argued on tuesday and after that there is a Big Electoral College case the justices will hear. Ariane de vogue, we know youll bring us those decisions as they come. The president shifted his thinking upward as he tries to reopen the country. There are now a dozen possible coronavirus vaccines for development. This as were hearing conflicting dates from the experts as to when a vaccine could be available. Murder hornets. Thats not a movie. 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One week is all it takes. Neutrogena®. This just in to cnn, the Carnival Cruise line says it plans to have some ships back in service by august. This morning the company unveiled a phased approach to return to the water. Carnival will reserve service for eight ships starting august 1st. They will operate from miami in port canavaral in florida. They will make all the rest of their plans through the end of august. Antibody test takers are to seek emergency use authorization. They are shooting for data within ten business days. They are also setting performance actions for all test developers. Elizabeth cohen, there has been questions about the efficacy of these tests. What do they actually show . Is this an attempt to address that . Oh, absolutely. It was more than questions, jim. It was on april 5th that the head of a major lab association told cnn there are a lot of c p crappy tests out there on the market. That was his word, crappy. More than a month later, finally the fda is correcting what they did back in march. In march, trump very proudly bragged about how he was going to make everything easier. He was going to change regulations to make everything easier. He blamed barack obama for making things difficult, and what he did was he allowed people to market, to put on the market antibody tests that had not been proven. They didnt have to show they actually worked, you could just put it out there on the market. You did not have to show that it worked. What ended up happening was you had all these tests out there that didnt work. So now theyre going back to the way it was under obama and other president s, and theyre saying, hey, you need to show that it works. This is so simple, it is so obvious, so not only did they make this change in the first place, but it has been nearly a month that people have been complaining. And finally they are making this change. Okay. Timeline on a vaccine. The president has said he thinks it could be ready by the end of the year, his Health Experts say january at the earliest. I spoke to the head of the Harvard Public Health institute who said, listen, next year if everything works out perfectly. Whats the reality here . The reality is that, a, we dont know if a vaccine is even going to work against the novel coronavirus. And b, we dont know how long its going to be. Back in january, dr. Tony fauci said 12 to 18 months. So he is now saying, yeah, its possible, as i said back in january of this year, 12 to 18 months. So is january of next year possible . Sure. But hes giving no guarantees, dr. Deborah birx is giving no guarantees. Well just have to live with this uncertainty. Is it possible well have a vaccine in january . Sure, its possible. Is it possible well also be working towards that goal . That is also possible. Elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. Lets bring in james phillips. He is a physician and physician professor at the university of washington hospital. Doctor, its great to have you. Good morning. A lot of folks are riding on a vaccine because folks want to go back to normal but they want to do so safely. It surprised me somewhat when i spoke to the head of the Harvard Public Health institute in the last hour that, listen, this would actually be the first workable vaccine for a coronavirus. Explain what a breakthrough that would be. Yeah, hes right. So, you know, when sars and mers, two of the previous coronaviruses outside the typical flu viruses, emerged, the vaccine was started but it never went into production. So we never had a vaccine that made it to any widespread use. Its efficacy is somewhat in doubt. I think the fastest vaccine thats ever come to market back in the 60s was four years and that was for mumps. So in order for us to have a vaccine even in

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