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Door because pruitts security broke in to check on him after he didnt answer his phone. Cnns Abby Phillips joins us live from west palm beach, florida, where the president is spending the easter weekend there on palm beach island. Good morning to you. There is a lot going on. Thats right. Good morning. Just another day and another problem with one of the president s cabinet members. The Environmental Protection agency had scott pruitt as under fire today over his spending on a condo in washington, d. C. The fact that he paid what seems to be below market rate for that condo, about 50 a night. But only for the nights that he stayed there. As well below what people say you ought to be paying on capitol hill in that area for a nightly stay in a room there. But scott pruitt is just dealing with several of these issues with ethics. A couple of days ago there was some questions raised about his use of a 24 7 security detail not only when he is on official business but also whether he was on personal travel and now this. White house aides are frustrated. They called pruitt and other cabinet members in several weeks ago and asked them be up front with us about what is coming down the pike when it comes to ethics problems. We dont want to learn about this in the newspaper. But in this case, thats exactly how many in the white house found out about this problem. And theyre not happy about it. President trump is not happy with the distractions coming from his cabinet and already he has pushed out several cabinet members last year. Tom price over some spending issues. And just this past week David Shulkin had issues with how he spent taxpayer dollars. So here scott pruitt is on thin ice with this white house. And its not clear how long its going to go on. The epa, however, has defended him saying that his use of this condo was appropriate. All right. Abby, with all of that that you discussed and all thats going on in the world, the president is up and tweeting about the cost of postage and amazon. Thats right. The president is back attacking amazon again. But this time he made it clear what the issue with that Company Really is about. He accused amazon of scamming the Postal Service. But he also said this bit about the Washington Post which is not owned by amazon but owned by jeff bezos. He said the failing New York Times reports the size of the companys lobbying staff ballooned and that does not include the fake Washington Post which is used as a lobbyist and should so register. So the president here making it clear that his critique about amazon is really about the Washington Post which often writes stories he finds unflattering and when it comes to his business and his business conflicts. The president has made this critique sending amazon stocks tumbling in the last week. But obviously there are questions being raised now about whether the company is being unfairly targeted. He is accusing the company of not paying sales tax. Amazon does, in fact, pay sales tax and the Postal Service also says that they find the arrangement with amazon to be mute aol mutually beneficial. Syria, russia, Stormy Daniels and hes focused on postage. Ron brownstein is with us and the bureau chief for the Washington Times lynn sweet. Good morning to you. I want to show that full screen here we have again of the five people who have had some questions raised about discrepancies in travel, in spending, with furniture, with this condo now with scott pruitt. I look at that, ron, and i think what is striking about this may be the scope. 14 months into this presidency, is this isolated to the president Trumps Administration or lets face it, surely this is not the first time things discrepancies like this have happened. No, its not the first time, of course. The magnitude of it is extraordinary. And i think we are watching a real time confirmation of the saying that fish rots from the head. The president has really set the tone. He set the tone when he broke with years of tradition by refusing to release his tax returns. They refused to release the logs of white house visitors. He hired his immediate family members. He spends a lot of time the at his own properties. lo he allows other institutions to hold events at his properties. He set a tone that has encouraged this kind of disdain really for the traditional ethical bound r ethical boundaries on many different fronts. It is the way the government interacts with lobbyists, both stories converging with scott pruitt. Scott pruitt is really of all the cabinet agencies perhaps hes been at the forefront of undoing efforts by the Obama Administration, particularly in the areas of climate change. Just next week they are scheduled to roll back the historic agreement between the Obama Administration and the Auto Industry to improve fuel economy in cars and trucks. So i think this is a story where really all the different ethical questions converge and it just shows you how deeply this kind of culture is. And one last point. It shows you that the decision by Congressional Republicans not to impose more oversight bites new the end. They are the ones going to be on the front line of defending this behavior in november. If they were rigorous about surveilling the way the administration was behaving to begin with, youd have less xan scandals coming forward. I want to look at the fact that in the last two weeks we have got the economic, foreign policy, National Security sectors all losing their leaders. Now were talking about scott pruitt again. Listen to a trump supporter about what she had to say about that a little while ago. President was elected to be a disruptor. And when things are not working as he wants, as he expects them, i expect him to make changes that will work. Thats what he wants to be successful. Remember, this is a man that gave up his private life to do this. Hes not receiving any pay. Hes doing it for the better of america. He wants to make America Great again. And we know the president does not like to fail. So i trusted him that hes doing the right thing and he will make the right decisions. So, lynn, is this disrupting the swamp, so to speak, or is there something deeper here . Well, i think its a little of both. There is no reason that no matter what your intent and regulations, to deregulate, to wipe out everything obama did or bush did or clinton did, that is still different in the essential ethics question that you dont take gifts. You dont do extravagant travel. Lets put that in one bucket of lapses that rinne dependeare in the policy. No matter who you, what your political beliefs are. Youre not supposed to take impermissible gifts and should have at that level some sensitivity to even the optics of the situation which is something that is noted in ethics law. You are supposed to be aware of how things look in order to show the taxpayers that youre not wasting their money. So these serial lapses from the president on down and not being above the rules, of not making the letter of the law and going past that is whats at issue here. Its not whether or not you believe in the trump policies per se. Its what theyre doing on the ethical front. I think that is a way to focus this conversation where you dont have to get into whether or not you believe in trump policies because even if pruitt is forced to resign or fired, lets put out there this question. Wouldnt his replacement also be intent on doing the same dismantling of the policies as pru it . Pruitt . Would they, ron . Certainly after you see all the firings and people walking away from the administration in the last several weeks, would anybody really come in, do you think, a new appointee and try to pull the same shenanigans . Lynn separates two separate questions, the ethical behavior and the policy direction. Although, they do converge. What youre seeing in so many of these really across the board in the federal regulatory authorities whether its Consumer Protection or, you know, the dealing with financial agencies or Occupational Safety or and certainly above all, in the environment, the argument has been from trump that the that in essence business knows best. And that the government has been too adversarial and business should have a bigger say in determining the way it is regulated in the public interest. I think once that is your north star, almost inevitably you are going to get into these kinds of questions about the way in which you are interacting with those lobbyists as you make those decisions. So i think shes right that no matter who comes in, you know, the direction is set. On the other hand, i also think that they are having trouble filling these jobs with i mean if you look at the first 14 months of the trump administration, both the way he may turn on you, the kind of erratic nature of the policy making and clear process, its hard to believe that republican ateam or bteam is really interested in this. You can, i think see in the kind of appointments that have come in the white house, larry kudlow, john bolton, may be very fine people. But they are not someone that anybody else on that stage would have had on the inner circle when we look back at the republican debates in 2015. Were looking at some video now, excuse me, of President Trump arriving at his golf club. We understand its been i want to say 138 visits to one of his properties since hes become president. Lynn, is there at any point where these visits are going to get in the way of the effectiveness of his administration, what hes doing, credibility, especially when you look back at the comments he made about president obama and saying im not going to be on the golf course every weekend . Well, he is. So how many more examples of trump you know, this is a serial hypocrisy going on almost every weekend. And this is expensive. This constant weekend travel to either his properties in new jersey or florida cost the taxpayers a lot of money. Past president s have often been criticized for their travel on vacations or on, you know, president obama and mrs. Obama got enormous amount of criticism one time for taking a plane to new york for recreational weekend. That was an incident that had what legs for weeks. Now every weekend, every weekend the president goes to one of his other properties. That is, again, because ron, i like to separate issues. The other interesting thing is just in how trump operates, in all his time in washington, hes only gone out maybe three or four times when hes left the white house to go to some place other than a property. And thats been usually to a hotel or a facility where there is a dinner or an event. So one other thing, just think. You have a president that is so insulated that when he hasnt gone to a National Park in a year, he hasnt visited except for an airplane hanger or event where he gives a speech or a venue, you know, maybe a factory, hasnt even explored the glorious golf course thats are around washington, d. C. He is that clustered from experiencing anything out of his own bubble. Can i just real, real quick. I just take this back to Congressional Republicans that i think brought there on themselves. Sending the signal really from increasingly over time that theyre not going to perform real oversight. I think President Trump and the administration is basically viewed they can get away with almost anything. And ultimately, it is the people in congress that are going to be on the front line if there is a backlash against this. And by sending that signal, they have brought more trouble on themselves. I got you. Ron brownsteen and lynn sweet, always good to you have here. Thank you. Coming up, new insight into the 2016 Police Shooting death of alton sterling. What never before seen video is now revealing about the officer who killed sterling. Also, new details in the Police Shooting death of stephon clark. Why his family is saying an autopsy report proves that police are lying. Im very proud of the fact that i served. 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With the help now of two of the officers body cams and the Surveillance Video from the store, we have a more clear and complete account of the encounter between the officers and sterling, the moments that his life was lost and the moments that followed. I want to warn you one more time, this video that we received from the Baton Rouge Police department is disturbing. Reporter graphic and disturbing new video. Stop. What did i do . What i did . Dont plof or imove or ill. Showing the controversial shooting death of alton sterling in 2016. The baton rouge chief of Police Officers Blaine Salamoni who shot him six times during a struggle with him will be fired over his actions. The violation of command of temper has been sustained. Officer Blaine Salamoni is terminated from the Baton Rouge Police department. Reporter this week he refused to answer any questions during a disciplinary hearing the chief said while howie lake, the other officer involved answered them all. Lake who the chief said made mistakes but controlled his temper during the encounter was given a three day unpaid suspension. Two different perspectives and one officer did not follow the tactics, training, professionalism and organizational standards. Reporter the police chief making it clear, their administrative investigation was separate from the federal criminal charges both officers were already cleared of. The Police Department released four videos from the night of the shooting including this Surveillance Footage from the sss convenience store. That is sterling at the front of the store sitting at a table where he is selling cds. Minutes into the tape, he is seen conducting a transaction with an unidentified man. He removes a gun from the front pocket followed by money from the same pocket. Within seconds, sterling is seen jokingly making a shooting motion towards the man. That night police were initially called to the asss con veesss c store. Watch closely as things escalate quickly. From salamonis perspective, you can see a struggle and then his gun is on sterlings head. Dont you move or ill shoot you in your head. Do you hear me . What did i do . Hold out of play. Youre hurting my arm. Sterling was then pinned to the ground and tased twice. Get on the ground. Get on the ground pop him again, howie. Before being fatally shot. Previously released cell phone videos recorded byebye standers show at this point in the encounter, he believed sterling was armed. A gun was recovered from sterlings body. But the federal and state investigations determined that officers actions were reasonable and come prove that sterling wasnt reaching for a gun. Thank you so much for that report from baton rouge. Meanwhile, in sacramento, the leaders of black lives matter gathered outside city hall last night demanding justice for stephon clark. Black lives they matter black lives they matter clark was an unarmed man then when he was killed by police. This is 13 days ago. According to an independent autopsy, the 22yearold was shot eight times, six of those in the back. An attorney for the clark family argues that that krikts tcontrae narrative that he was moving towards them when they fired. They thought the cell phone he was holding was a gun. This investigation is on going. And its now day three of a student protest at howard university, a group of students have staged a sit in completely taking over an Administration Building on campus there after the schools employees were accused of pocketing Financial Aid over a nine year period. They say they wont leave until demands are met. One of which is the resignation of the universitys president. Cnn correspondent is following this story for us. What are you learning this morning . Three days now and the students say theyre not going anywhere until demands are met. This protest here, the students essentially occupying this Administration Building about 350 according to organizers staying strong right now and partly in response to the Financial Aid scandal. And there is a report that reveals the misappropriation of Financial Aid funds over a period of nine years. Some University Employees were receiving grants from school to attend classes while also receiving tuition remission. According to university statement, basically they earned more money than the tuition costs so they would pocket that difference, specific amounts though havent been revealed. The university saying that reform has happened. That has taken place following an investigation and giv

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