A judge saying she may have a case to all of this. Is fox news the bill cosby of Corporate America . Thats what lisa bloom said. Shes representing wendy walsh and accuses oreilly of Sexual Harassment and retaliation and they both join me now. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. So, wendy. Lets be honest about this. Weve known each other for years but the first i learned about this encounter was in the New York Times this weekend and i was flabbergasted. Tell me what happened. In a nutshell i was asked to be on his show as a regular guest and three weeks into it i got an exciting email from his secretary saying that mr. Oreilly is coming to los angeles and hed love to have dinner with you and i said absolutely. Because i wanted to talk to him about my Career Prospects. Often being brought on as a guest is an audition process and i wanted to be a paid contributor. He brought it up, says roger ail is a good friend of his and they plan on making me a contributor. The dinner went on to include small talk about life, love, etc. And at the end of the dinner, he simply said lets get out of here and he walked to the right towards the hotel rooms and i walked to the left towards the bar and there was this awkward moment where we couldnt find each other and he caught up with me and said no, no come back to my suite. I said i cant do that. And he became hostile and spent some time weaning me off the show and getting his executive producer to cancel me. So did you continue speaking with him that night, right . Yes. So we went in the bar and complained the soda water i ordered was too expensive and my purse was really ugly. I guess he so thats how he treated you for the rest of the evening. Were you ever on the show after that evening, wendy . Oh, yes, he made a point of keeping me on. And i did what every woman does. We try to save the gig. We try to stroke the dog, as it is and i should tell you that the fox released some of my cringe worthy suck up emails today because i thought if i can just be professional, polite, talk through his assistant, then hell understand im not a threat, im not going to sue him and he will give me the job he promised. So, okay well get to the hemails because i have one of those emails. When he said he wanted you to go back to his suite, what did he want . You know, i wish i knew his mind, what he really meant. Maybe he just wanted privacy to talk to me about my Career Prospects but thats very inappropriate and maybe hes just clueless. In my case, im a grown up woman. Its not the first time ive been to this rodeo and when he said do you think im going to attack you . I said you know were both raises teenage daughters. Bill, dont you think we should model good choices for them, hoping to connect on that parent level. Anyway, we went to the bar and he became angry and hostile. Have a couple more questions for wendy. This incident was in early 2013. You mentioned the email. On september 4, 2013, you wrote an email saying quote, i want to send a thank you to mr. Oreilly and the staff on all the help in promoting my book specifically please convey to the boss that i am deeply grateful for his professional kindness. His media power is immeasurable it went onto to me asking in that email. Why were you praising him after he treated you in the manner that you described . Because thats a classic suck up email. This is what you do. This is what plenty of woman do in a situation like this. I didnt even realize that in an applicant email for a job you could be a victim for harassment. Let me think everythings going to be okay and i can get the job i want. This has been a story ive told quite openly to many friends for years but a New York Times reporter contacted me and i believe it was october. She said she was doing an investigation. Theres no way im going public. Theres no reason to. I dont need this. And after she bought me all the evidence and showed me how many women were silenced, how many women were under gag orders and cant talk. And the fact she suspected there were other women at fox afraid to come forward. And as my attorney, lisa bloom, said to me youre a grown 50yearold woman with a big mouth and you cant be brave enough. So, these girls set me up. So i heard you say this on cnn yesterday i think on sunday. You called fox news quote the bill cosby of Corporate America. What did you mean by that . Well, there are dozens and dozens of women who have accused bill cosby of Sexual Assault and dozens of people accusing people at fox news of Sexual Harassment. Roger rails, bill oreilly, other executives, and yet it never goes anywhere. It never changes anything. Thats why today in my press conference with wendy, who i adore, i called for an independent investigation. The women are driven out or in wendys case they dont get the job in the first place and the men engaging in this illegal behavior get to continue. Its against the law. We have the righting to complain and we have the right to respect and our jobs really everywhere in america except fox news. So i ask the state department and human rights in new york to do an independent investigation. They have the Legal Authority to do it, step in and protect the woman who are working there. Im going to give bill oreillys statement. I want to ask you about the letter that wendy wrote. I remember similarly, i dont know if fox released it but i have a copy of wendys email praising her boss and thanking her boss for giving her an opportunity. Literally in every case there are emails like this. What do you say to that, lisa . Ive been doing Sexual Harassment cases for many years. They were sexually harassed one day. Wendy was trying to get a job. Wendy is a professional. Wendy has had other men make inappropriate comments to her like i have, and like every woman has. And we just kind of shrug it off. Theres nothing wrong with her following up. She was entitled to have a job that she was qualified to have. And lets get real about Sexual Harassment. So wendy heres bill oreillys statement. Hes saying in part just like other prominent and controversial people, im vulnerable to controversial lawsuits. From individuals who want me to pay them to avoid negative press at fox news channel. No one has ever filed a complaint about me with the Human Resources darmntd. Even on the anonymous line. I have put to rest any controversies to spare my children. The worst part of my job is being a target for those who would harm me and my employer, the fox news channel. Whats your response for this . I hope youre able to hold it together so your children are not affected. But i want to be clear. Im not after money. I am not suing you. I just want nontoxic Work Environment for my daughters and their generation. We need to change the system. The workplace is not a mating marketplace. And if youre looking for aidate, do like everyone else and go on tinder. You know, don, it is not true that all powerful men have sick complaints of Sexual Harassment complaints against them. Im not aware of any against you or other men who are prominent on television. Its bill oreilly and not one, or two or three but six Sexual Harassment complaints. Its not because hes wealthy and famous. Its buzzf ohis behavior. And its time for him to be held accountable for it. My question to you is and tell me if im wrong, lisa, isnt it the same thing that cosbys defenders or attorneys says that these women were after his money . Very good observation. Its what every wealthy person says. Anytime they do, theyre always saying its because i have money, even when somebody like wendy is saying im not asking for a dime. That undercuts the whole rich guy argument. He should use some of that money to get some counseling and get some Sexual Harassment training. And learn how to treat women in the workplace. Its not too late. I have to go but how are you . Im good. Tomorrow im going to go back to life as usual, taking my kid to cheer practice. And i hope other women can use this as a model for what they can do too. Wendy, thank you, lisa, thank you as well. I appreciate it. Thank you. I want to bring in a Senior Reporter from media and politics. So, dylan, you have reached out to fox. Do they have anything to say about wendy walsh . Nothing specifically about the press conference that she gave today. What they have issue issued, and i want to be very clear this is 21st century fox, not fox news. Its a Parent Company of fox news. What they have done is issued a blanket statement saying they take issues like these seriously and theyre continuing to stand behind bill oreilly. Both oreilly and 21st century fox in their statements made reference to this hot line, this anonymous hot linesplease can call. What youre likely seeing is the set up of a Legal Defense that accusers had some outlet through the Company Structure but look, theres a reason that a lot of these women didnt want to pick up an anonymous hotline and it may have something to do with the fact that the former chief executive, roger ails had a litany of Sexual Harassment allegations against him. And there was a fear thatallies, might have been even been monitoring their phone calls. How many lawsuits are they facing . Well, theyre facing a lot. So you have a new one coming out today to the reporting of npr. You also have and i would say this is most significant. You have the federal investigation, which is movering into a grand jury about how 21st century fox handled the complaints that the aers made and whether or not it misled its investors by shielding the money paid out to those accusers. So that was an investigation headed up by greek buhara. Thankfully, hes no longer in his position thanks to the president of the United States. But theres a hope to many of fox news today that this investigation might shed some new light on details involving these Sexual Harassment claims and therefore might force 21st century fox to take this issue more seriously than it has to date. Following the New York Times report. Is it likely other new york advertisers will follow that . Well, its hard tasay its hard to see that not happening. I would caution here. Mer siddies benzreassigned its advertising. So it pulled its advertising from the Oreilly Factor but not from fox. What you have now is reporters from cnn, reporters from the New York Times calling up other advertisers saying do you have have a plan . Theres effectively public pressure here. If people start paying attention to whos deciding to stay with Oreilly Factor and whos not, weve seen in the past in cases like this, that can sort of be the Tipping Point where all of a sudden this drip, drip, drip becomes a torrent. Thank you, dylan. I appreciate it. Our legal experts will weigh in right after this. Hey allergy muddlers are you one sneeze away from being voted out of the carpool . Try zyrtec® its starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. Stick with zyrtec® and muddle no more®. Pabut with odor free blueemu continuous pain relief spray, i can box out any muscle or joint pain immediately. Blueemu continuous pain relief spray, it works fast and you wont stink. Multiple women accuse fox news host, bill oreilly of Sexual Harassment. Here to discuss the author of taking the stand and analyst martin. Good evening to all of you. I just spoke to wendy and her attorney and our media correspondent here on cnn. New york times points to five other women who have received settlements or oreilly for fox totaling 13 million would he still have a job with any other company . Absolutely not. This is really appalling. You have someone that has caused this company or himself included to pay out 13 mill io to semts. And that doesnt mean youre liable. Ive been doing Sexual Harassment cases for many years and if someone is not spbl for the conduct, theyre willing to go to trial and have an auseication of the issues. One of t one of the settlements was 4 mill k million. The reality is bill oreilly makes fox a lot of money, so theres a reason to keep him employed. And thats the bottom line. Alan, youre shaking your head. 13 million is chump change. When i was falsely accused i aimmediately had an independent investigation. I got louie free, the head of the fbi. I turned over all my records and i said let the chips fall where they may. Ultimately, of course, the lawyers withdraw, but nonetheless people still believed a false accusation. You came on the show after it happened and had your say on this the show. But you fought and came out that you were right and it was false. Let me put this statement, because representatives of the fox responded. He resolves those as he regard said as his personal responsibility. His personal responsibility. How can he believe this is his personal responsibility if theres no merit to these claims . Well, remember, these are all people who knew. So there are gray areas here. In my case, i didnt know, so of course there was no personal responsibility. I think its in foxs interest to have an independent investigation and let the chips fall where they may. I think any woman is entitled to investigation. She is not entitled to a presumption of guilt against the person shoo she accuses. Or the accused i should say. What do you think . Well, its a tough situation. Ive defended those who have been accused. Ive represented those who have been victimized. Part of the problem i think in these specific skass, youve probably got a statute of limitations in new york and california that has run already. And in addition to that while the behavior is boorish, its probably not actionable to the point where youre going to have a lot of damages in this case. Wendys a strong personality. And woman who, as she said, this is just one day. Ill geonto do carpool and everything else. Its earmarks of someone whos moving on. I dont think the Sexual Harassment didnt occur at the hotel room. The harassment occurred if she in fact lost Economic Opportunities as a result of saying no, that is the grovelment of the Sexual Harassment. Go ahead. I think shes not filed a lawsuit and has been very emphatic she is not seeking monetary damages. She is calling for an investigation which would go in and look at the pattern and practice of behavior on the part of oreilly and makes a determination. We dont have any evidence theres been an investigation. The problem. We dont have any evidence of that, but i could probably spot you 51 that they have done an internal investigation or they have one being done. But nonetheless the problem is that in realtime she didnt make a complaint to the hr hotline or anything else. And the statute of limitations has probably run. So i understand, but the statute has probably run. I would agree with you on the statute, but these hot lines. So many women never contact the hot lines. Theres 13 million paid out in settlements. Need we talk about a hotline . The last person im going to contact is my employer. Im going to talk to someone that i hired or get advice from an outside party. Im going to write to my company. When bill oreilly to have the press conference he did one very smart thing. He hired clintons lawyer, a liberal democrat lawyer, a brilliant, brilliant crisis strategist. And i suspect were going to see a very, very good defense put forward. So this didnt happen, mark, in a vacuum because theres so many allegations at fox news. Roger ails, they sent him away after he built the fox channel because of so many accusations. And i think theres others. But does this not point to a culture possibility . Mind you the prior incidents and the prior allegations if you believe whats printed about it, yes, obviously. And if youre going to make the point if theres current allegations within the statute of limitations, then youre going to make the point this is a petri dish for harassment. But not with this particular complaint. We have to remember one thing. Theres uncroupilous lawyers out there who will get other women to join and jump on the bandwagon. So we have to be careful about the copycat aspect of it, too. As i said every womans complaint should be taken seriously and investigated. But we all know there are unscrupulous lawyers who will try to find a second accuser and third accuser. Let me say i agree there are copycat lawyers. It gives them the courage they need to report bad contact. I got to get this in. The Justice Department is already investigating whether they failed inform shareholders. Does this play into that, and i mean how does this affect that . Theres no question that the Justice Department investigation will have a big impact on foxs decision. They have to be very, very careful now because they as an institution have been accused of creating this kind of culture. And they are going to be sued independently of the individuals. And they have to be very careful. Okay, all of you stay with me because were going to back in just a little while to discuss this woman. She is suing the president. Shes here next. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. 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