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CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon April 12, 2017

Plus more about why fbi thinks advisor could be acting as a agent. Plus people around the world outraged by this. Come on. Come on. No. Oh, my god. Look what you did to him. United ceo finally apologizing but its not over yet. The family of the man who was dragged off that plane dr. David dowell is being treated at a chicago hospital. To our breaking news first. On the Trump Administration charges proper surveillance by Obama Administration. More about the claims devin nunes that members of the Obama Administration improperly requested the identity of americans appearing in intelligence reports. To refresh your memory heres what congressman nunes said previously. Theres some information in those documents that concern me, the reports that i read, that i dont think belong there. It would make me uncomfortable. Think the president need foz see them himself. Im certained about identities the being unmasked np intelligence reports. Nunes said he would share what he saw with other members and he has. And were learning more. Well, don tonight both republican and democratic lawmakers are casting doubts on the claim thats devin nunes made that obama officials requested names of individuals redakted in those documented. Lawmakers and aides who have soon these exact same documents that nunes reviewed last month they see no evidence that obama officials did anything out of the ordinary or illegal one congressional source described these requested made to unmask these individuals as normal and appropriate. So you have talked to sources who have seen these documents. What are they telling you about their contents. Theyre saying there is nothing there including one congressional source who did see these document who said quote theres absolutely no smoking gun in these reports and said have the white house declassify them to make it clear that theres nothing alarming in there. Now a lot of questions have been raised about the role of susan rice president obamas former National Security advise roar whether she acted legally requesting the names of those check theed in those reports and President Trump believes rice may have broken the law but don multiple sources who have reviewed these documents say flatly they do not back up what the president claims that she may have broken the law that these are routine requests. The president has not revealed what intelligence hes relying on to make at surance that rice broke the others others have asked and theyve still not provided that. Even if the Obama Administration act the properly what are the rules in grant theegz questions. Threes set by the intelligence committee. Certain senor intelligence agencies can decide whether to grant this request. These requests are rarely denied dedespite the question they twr within the law of practice some having concerns about the justifications given by some of those officials to request the unmasking of these individuals and the standards of the int intelligence agencies to grant the request. Right now theres some concern how its been dong right now. You were one of the first to report chairman nunes was force to temporarily recuse him several because of his handle of the documents whats the status of that investigation. It appears to be moving forward. Democratic democrats and republicans have agreed on witnesses they want to interview. Republicans want to folk on who leaked the classified information they believe is a crime. Democrats are looking for any ties between russia and the Trump Associates and trying to talk to a number of those Trump Associates one person on that list is going to be susan rice. Shell be interviewed in the coming weeks. Thank you very much. Thanks, don. Bringing in our next analysts. So good evening to everyone and thank you for joining us. Julia, ill start with you, the wooush post reported fbi obtained fisa warrant to monitor carter, what does it say about submission. The fisa warrant wire tap was approved after trump mentioned carter name. Inclination would be very cautious playing in the political space. Secondly remember fisa standard knowing page would be in knowing standard. Third, this is just to raise caution to the story. No direct tie to trump. This is important because it is fisa wire tap but in the story there no knowingness between trump and page. The post reports the governments application for the surveillance order targeting page included a lengthy declaration that laid out bases believing page was knowingly entajed on intelligence activities on behalf of moscow so saying he was russian spy and reporting to get a meeting with trump whats your reaction. The preassumption of the assumption you cant get fisa warrant, these are very, very thick applications, thick as a wrist sometimes trying to get the information needed. This tells you the man was already on the radar for the fbi probably in 2013 when he was initially linked to a russian spy that was convicted of being a spy undocumented in the United States and reported to the attorney general. So you had that conversation there. Julia is right however there is no yet a link to donald trump. Remember probable cause to get it the first time is hard enough with fisa to have it repeatedly renewed over more than one 90day period suggests that the court has seen sufficient information to warrant Additional Investigation or theres Additional Information they need to get and still more probable cause in the new warrants either way this indicates that the fbi investigation is very, very ongoing, it is ripe at this moment in time ands going to continue particularly with respect to carter page. Faried hows it fit in with what we know about Michael Flynn and paul manfred. Again you have a lot of smoke, you dont have a fire, its uncanny how many people close to the front the campaign seem to have some kind of connection with russia. And then the part to me thats as interesting is when these investigations begin the wild almost crazy way in which the Trump Administration tries to counter attack and shut down the allegations that rice broke the law it would be easy to know it would be disproven but the frenzy with which its being done suggests theres something here. We dont have a smoking gun but as i say theres a lot of smoke. Do you think this could be examples of drifting because the money is in russia. No. Because china has a lot of money, kazakhstan and nigeria have lots of money. No. Theres Something Else going on i would guarantee you it would be very difficult to find this pattern of contact with any previous president ial campaign in a single government in quite the same way. I want to ask about reporting no evidence of wrongdoing with what do you think. Theres never been indication there was any wrongdoing from the get go i dont think its particularly surprising although its now confirmed. Information is sometimes disseminateded with their name without their names, sometimes masked. Rice would be in the scope of her duties this is a close of a loop on the story that never quite was. Always part of her job. The only remaining question is why devin nunes felt the need to hold these dramatic press conferences. Well hear from steve and jack after the break. Mjn yicwwwwwwwfffffffffffffff f yicwwwwwwwffffffffffffffffffffff many. Ho its off to work we go woman on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. And each job created by the Energy Industry supports two others in the community. Altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. These are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing americas emissions. Energy lives here. New questions tonight on the ongoing reporting investigation. Back now with my panel. Steve, carter page was on the fbis radar in 2013 after he made contact with russian intelligence agent in new york. Are you surprised someone with his back grund can get so close to President Trump . Well, don, not really. To me the information thats come out of the Washington Post reporting today has all of the hall marks of a classic russian intelligence operation where you identify someone you hope will be close to an important policy maker and identify what his involvements are, you have saying hes a guy who is willing to pass dock iuments and is looksing for money. Hes been in moscow and they have all that information on him. This is nothing more than classic russian human inside intelligence operation and looks close to being successful. What would the goal be then . The russians are always looking to see who is the next person who will be in the white house. Who will be an important political or economic figure in the United States. Youre not going to recruit donald trump to be your spy. Not like in the movies or Something Like that, will you be look ageing at people who meet y with him and have access to him. It didnt work out but thats the cost of doing business in the intelligence world. Got you so. The Administration Says carter page wasnt really an advisor but should they have known his back ground, seems his affinity for russia was wellknown. Absolutely not. This was a very, very obscure shorttime advisor and what or who he advised has never been proven and in fact hes said on cnn he it written papers that he seen in, i dont think anyone in the campaign saw. He never met trump. Why would the president name him . Because early on in the campaign when youre filling out your charts you say yeah i got a security guy, got a transportation team, i got a medical Advisory Group those kind of Advisory Groups are very common to any campaign and to suggest russian so how could carter page be second name onto list. I dont think any of the panelists have suggested but it sounds to me what steve is saying they recruit a lot of people an encourage them to get involved in various campaigns because theres absolutely positively no way anyone would have guessed donald trump would have been a president ial contender in 2013 and even march 2016 no one would have said you believe he could have been part of russian espionage operation. Im saying theres no way he was close to donald trump. If they were going out recruiting people would it not be logical to say they were probably doing it in other campaigns, other people, other positions if we operate under theories thats as good as anyone els. Can i say just one thing on that hold on let me say before i yield the floor. Youre not in congress but go on jack. I think im the only one on this panel who was involved in the campaign who went to trump towers who was part of a daily phone call and i can tell you i absolutely never met carter page as part of the campaign in fact i met him the first time in the cnn green room in new york city. He was not in the inner circle. Did you meet everyone on the campaign. I did not but i know who the players were. Okay so manfred wasnt a player either because you never met him. No you asked me if i met everyone in the campaign. Im just wondering, go ahead. Again i got to be very careful around you. Im trying to help you, jack zblts predicated, your theory jack is predicated you seem to misunderstand what the fbi subject investigation really is. Did not say precisely Donald Trumps efforts concluded with the russian government whether people were part of the campaign and whether they were somehow involved in a kolsive effort and that would include carter page. It just says the investigation was done correctly. Go ahead julia. Let me be clear about the fisa wire tap seeing a little piece of an overall investigation that included carter, stone, page, and remember cory was the one approved page going to russia, you then have Jared Kushner and others, you all have sessions who was mentioned in the article whoa, whoa, let me back up, i dont know anything about carter page being sent to russia and cory signing off on it, is that what you said Jack Jack Jack you have to let me finish. You cannot you cannot filibuster me. Listen, jack its been widely reported in the post and in the New York Times that thats the case. Oh. Im just listing, as often. Okay the New York Times. A bunch of different data points. Let her finish jack. Excuse me, jack, this is just rude now. This is just rude. A bunch of different data points regarding a bunch of different pieces of investigation. So i was the first on saying look we dont have ties to trump with this story in the post but to argue that he can just be that this is a nothing story is to deny all the different pieces that are coming together. We dont know what the story is yet. You cant sit here and say these are all random coincidences. And you cant say susan rice who is a known liar, lets be honest about it. Word you are looking for is prev prevarcator. It started with rwanda with the you have no response to the reporting that said rice has done nothing wrong, both democrats and republics have seen the intelligence that devin nunes offered up. Heres what i have to say, i dont remember anybody saying it was because she unmasked the people, the charge was why did she disseminate it and how. No they said she was unmasking no evidence she was disseminateding. She said one thing to and Rhea Mitchell and another to judy woodrough. She explained that. Next youre going to say theres another thing, Suzanne Hennessey is standing by patiently. For one thing were talking about Obama Administration officials what they might have done, the question is whether there is a connection between carter, page, man fredmanfred, trump knew, its a basic question of due diligence, whenever the president of the United States says this person is my Foreign Policy advisor granting that Person Authority all over the world that has consequences for the United States of america. I think theres a real question yeah r. I know we got to get to a break. Im sorry producers. So jack, youre with the Trump Campaign. Youve been to russia, why so many people with the Trump Campaign going to russia and meeting with russians . Do you have an answer for that . Number one i know nothing about cory sending carter page to russia. You didnt answer my question. Number two let me say this i went as part of the law firm i worked for made it a bundly clear at the time. Had nothing to do with the Trump Campaign. Okay. Thank you. I got it go. Im out of time. Okay. Breaking news republican kansas state treasurer has won the special election replacing miami pompae who became trump cie director. James thompson over chris rockhold. Estes 53 of the vote to thompsons 45 . Considered a straight win. Thats breaking news we needed to get in. Had to cut the panel short therex up next, well talk about the passenger being pulled off the jet airline and ceo calling the whole thing truly horrific. From the hospital, r the hospital must come to the patient. Stay with me, mr. Parker. 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But since has sent a third message, and oscar munoz finally got his tone right but it took two days of videos and backlash before the airline made the direct apology to the passenger who was dragged off that over booked flight on sunday night and he says i deeply apologize to the customer forced to be removed, and to the customers on board and said no one should be treated way. He is ed that theres going to be a review completed by april 30th. This new statement is a far cry from the email he sent to employees where he essentially defended the flight crew but again did not defend that passenger. The white house is also weighing in on this global outrage and the crisis that United Airlines facing, fill us in. Thats right the passenger weve confirmed his name is david dowell and he has now got an attorney and the white house is speaking out, press Secretary Sean Spicer said the video how it was handled was truly troubling and heres what else he had to say Law Enforcement is reviewing that situation. I think theres plenty of Law Enforcement to review a situation like that and i know United Airlines has stated they are currently reviewing their own policies. Lets not get ahead of where that review goes. It was an unfortunate incident, clearly when you watch the video it is troubling to see how that was handling but theyve clearly stated their desire to review the situation, Law Enforcement is reviewing it, for us to start getting in front of what should be a local matter not necessarily meeting a federal response. Needing a federal response.

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