Children are reaping financial benefits while their father sits in the oval office. More breaking news for you tonight. The president imposing sanctions on turkey due to its military incursion into syria to battle Kurdish Forces who are americas allies. President erdogan reached out and requested the call. And President Trump communicated to him very clearly that the United States of america wants turkey to stop the invasion. To implement an immediate ceasefire and to begin to negotiate with Kurdish Forces in syria to bring an end to the violence. The United States of america did not give a green light to turkey to invade syria. But were going to begin with some breaking news for you here, and its about the ukraine scandal. Joining me now is frank bruni, Shimon Prokupecz and talu. I appreciate you all joining us. Shimon, this is New York Times reporting, it is explosive and pulls former National Security adviser john bolton into this mess. What can you tell us . Yeah, essentially what this story says, don, fiona hill, as you said, testified all day today, ten hours of testimony, just coming out that she that bolton had expressed concern over what he called what the story calls a rogue operation and that lawyers on the National Security council, bolton adviser to notify lawyers on the National Security council that giuliani, Rudy Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney, who is the white house chief of staff, on what the story says was a rogue operation with legal implication. So lets start from the beginning here because the New York Times is starting off by saying here, shimon. They said that the effort to pressure ukraine for political hope provoked a heated confrontation inside the white house last summer that so alarmed john r. Bolton, then the National Security adviser, that he told an aide to alert white house lawyers, house investigators were told. But theyre saying that he this alarmed him so much that he started sounding the alarm about a rogue operation between giuliani and others . Let me read you a quote here, according to her testimony of what bolton said. He said, quote, i am not part of whatever drug deal rudy and mulvaney are cooking up. Mr. Bolton told ms. Hill to Tell White House lawyers. That is devastating. Yeah. This entire story here really putting things in perspective. Certainly ms. Hills testimony today, according to this story in the New York Times, is going to raise a lot of eyebrows. This is this quote from her drug deal im not going to be part of whatever drug deal rudy and mulvaney are cooking up. This obviously brings bolton into the center of this. We need to hear from him. Theyre reporting that bolton called Rudy Giuliani a hand grenade that would blow everything up. She said that during an earlier conversation. Frank, i want to bring this in bring you in because hes quoting what they said here. Bolton told fiona hill to report to giulianis rogue operation to the white house, to white house lawyers saying, im not part of whatever drug deal rudy and mulvaney are cooking up. To Tell White House lawyers, according to the testimony. What do you make of that . This language is extraordinary. This drug deal. Rudy giuliani is a hand grenade. John bolton isnt just saying i have some concerns about whats going on, hes gaping at what hes seeing and now, you know, theres is a lot of theres going to be even more interest in hearing from him. One has to note that donald trump has had such bitter breakups with so many of his former senior aides who have no great investment in trying to protect this president at this point, so im really curious to hear what john boltons going to have to say if we ever hear from him. If we do, i dont think President Trump can trust hes going to bite his tongue and hold anything back. Also gordon sondland. The trump donor turned ambassador to the European Union who was working with rudolph w. Giuliani, the president s personal lawyer, to press ukraine to investigate democrats, according to testimony provided to investigators. Gordon sondland is going to testify. Theyre going to want to know about that. Yeah, thats exactly right. Mr. Sondland has already started to put some distance between himself and the president. You remember these Text Messages that came out basically saying that the people who were working on this ukraine scandal wanted a deliverable in order to get a meeting between the white house and the ukrainian president. And that deliverable included trying to get the ukrainians to announce an investigation into President Trumps political rivals. I think one other thing thats really important with this latest bombshell reporting is that mulvaney is not just the chief of staff of the white house, he was also the office of management and budget director for the better part of two years within the trump white house, and that omb was the agency that basically stopped the money from Going Forward to ukraine. This was a mysterious halt on this on these funds, and the fact that mulvaney is now integrally involved in this scheme, which bolton allegedly called a drug deal, makes makes it look much more like a quid pro quo. Like bolton was saying that he was worried that giuliani and mulvaney were basically trying to pressure the ukrainians to deliver something for the president s political aspirations in exchange for funding or a white house visit, and thats what the democrats are trying to put those dots together and make sure they have complete case on what exactly was happening. It looked like fiona hill just gave them bombshell information that they can use to continue their investigation. Yes or no, congress is going to want to hear from bolton, correct . What do you think . I think so. The fact that hes not on good terms with the president now. Hes reportedly writing a book. I think that he can expect that he will be called by congress to testify to say exactly what happened behind closed doors. And the fact that he doesnt seem to be loyal to the president anymore may make him a kind of whistleblower on his own to be able to say what was happening in some of these meetings and why he was so concerned. Frank, we were talking about that before the show started. Yeah. About well, i mean, when you have this kind of turnover in an administration. When you have this many people leaving on bad terms, you are as a president exposed in a very special way. The other thing thats extraordinary here is every day that goes by, we learn its not just a few people who had eyes on whats going on in terms of pressure on ukraine. Its a lot of different people in this administration. Im shocked it took this long for this to come out, but now that its come out and more and more comes out, the president has a big problem because this is is not just a few people knew about this conversation. This is a sustained effort. A lot of people had eyes on it. Were learning today according to john bolton, a lot of people were sounding alarms. Also Mick Mulvaney. This is the first time were hearing this allegation that he was so involved in this. For john bolton to make this kind of statement, that mulvaney was part of this, him and rudy were working on this operation. I think that is going to change everything significantly because this goes much deeper in the white house than i think any this is the white house chief of staff now involved and this is beyond the whistleblower. This is beyond the whistleblower. This is this is so you have the National Security the head of the National SecurityCouncil Raising all sorts of concerns. Has no control over whats going on here. Right . And at a certain point donald trump cant keep saying this is just a partisan whistleblower. Oh, wait, this is just who partisan whistleblowers. Maybe three. We have more and more people coming forward and its going to be harder for him to discredit this. Its impossible already. Youve got the National Security adviser reportedly from the New York Times involved in this. Gordon sondland, a trump donor turned ambassador to the European Union. You have the acting chief of staff involved in this and the president s personal attorney reportedly involved in this. I mean, okay. Layers and layers and layers. Weve got more breaking news that i want to talk to you about, frank. The wall street journal is also reporting that Rudy Giulianis bank records are now being examined and witnesses have been questioned about his role in ukraine since at least august. How much trouble is giuliani in . I think hes potentially in a lot of trouble. The conversations i keep on having with people in washington is at what point might we see Rudy Giuliani arrested . I mean, thats a serious question. The arrests we saw last week, were those an end game . I dont think so. I think that was part of an effort to turn people and get bigger fish down the road. The big fish they might be going after is Rudy Giuliani. If they get him, what does he say about President Trump . Talu, were learning that hill raised concerns about maria yavonovitchs removal. That was the ambassador to ukraine that trump fired. That she told lawmakers today about her concerns about giulianis shadow foreign policy. Wall street journal is also reporting that she and other white house officials were so concerned about efforts to push ukraine to open certain investigations that they they raised concerns with the white house lawyer. All of that now combined with this bombshell. I mean, whats next . Yeah, it does all seem to be coming together. If democrats want to make a case that there was a conspiracy to get the ukrainians to dig up dirt on joe biden to help President Trumps reelection, that they have democrats have a lot of evidence. They have the fact that the Ukrainian Ambassador the ambassador to ukraine who wasnt on board with this scheme was fired abruptly and everyone else is saying that she was doing a good job, but Rudy Giuliani didnt like her so the president got rid of her. We have the fact that the president basically yanked Vice President pence from going to the ukrainian president s inauguration at the last minute and that was seen as another pressure tactic. And now you have this phone call with President Trump and president zelenskiy of ukraine saying i want you to do me a favor. So the democrats have a lot of information thats coming out, including this latest bombshell reporting about john bolton being concerned about a drug deal in his words, saying that there was something untoward going on. I think the democrats are likely to put all of this together and once theyre able to connect all of the missing pieces and really put together a case to the american people, its going to make it harder for President Trump, as you said earlier, to say this is just one whistleblower who is being partisan. Its looking like more and more people within the inner circle of the white house were concerned and had an issue with what was happening and what Rudy Giuliani was doing and the fact that he is now in legal trouble. All of that put together is going to make it very hard for this white house to counter what is a growing threat of impeachment. All right. I need all of you to stick around. Were going to have more on the breaking news. The former National Security adviser concerned about whatever it was that he believed that Rudy Giuliani was cooking up with Mick Mulvaney. The acting white house chief of staff. As it involved ukraine. The New York Times is reporting that. Back in a moment. In the last year, there were three victims of cybercrime every second. When a criminal has your personal information, they can do all sorts of things in your name. 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On the one hand, your career people, your professional diplomats and state department people, hill, yovanovitch, apparently john bolton for better or for worse, thats ultimately what hes about, on one side and the trump loyalists on the other side. Rudy, sondland, mulvaney. If im sizing this up from a investigative perspective, im looking at the career people. Im trying to bill this case around the nonpartisan, career, state diplomatic people. Theyre credible. Thats where im focussing my investigation. So walk us through. What do we know . Look, i think the most important thing here is you have a National Security adviser, the man who is supposed to be running the entire Security Apparatus of this country. Our International Relations in some ways is saying there are rogue operations going on behind my back. Things i dont know. I do not want to be part of this. Is raising all sorts of issues about this. And i think that is the most significant part about this. Yes, theres a lot of colorful language in this, but the fact that someone inside the white house is calling what Mick Mulvaney, Rudy Giuliani, the president here in some ways, other people, gordon sondland, are running a rogue operation. I mean, that is, to me, the most stunning that language, rogue operation, with legal implications. When you think about all the players who are in this. Youve got john r. Bolton, the National Security adviser. Gordon sondland, who is a trump donor and ambassador to the European Union who was going to testify on thursday to congress. Then youve got fiona hill today, right . And then youve got Mick Mulvaney who is acting white house ch