Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. Youre defending Michael Coman . No, what im saying you cant have it both ways. You cant say for a year and a half this is about russian collusion and i was part of the Successful Campaign of this man who won fairly and squarely as you well know. I disagree with your assessment. Tell me because its patently untrue. We dont promise the audience an outcome. You have to respect the democratic process. I think he won the electoral college, and that means hes president of the United States. Thank you very much. Hes your president , too. You need to show respect to the president. We cant even get our agenda covered on cnn thats not true. We cover it all the time. The truth matters. Thats what we sell to our odd krns because thats the only reason we have a job. The truth is you lied about this. You knee about what Michael Cohen was doing with these women
and the payments. He lied about not knowing. Says me, says the facts. Because i heard the tape in his voice, its donald trump and he is listening to his lawyer tell him what he needs to do to finish his deal with his friend pecker. Everybodys heard it. If you want to ill play it again. No, cnn plays it on a loop. So you know it already. And what it shows is he was aware of what he was doing before he did it. No. Thats the truth. Hes lying. When he was asked on air force one, did you know about that that was the question about Stormy Daniels payment and he said no. And not at the time. The whole world knew about it by january. This morning he said he knew about it after the facts. I know. But thats not true. I dont want your viewers to and i know your viewers expect to be fed antitrump every single night. You could say, look, did he lie, he lied. Its not perfect but its not illegal. His own lawyer admits that. Is he his current lawyer jay goldberg i would argue when he called to ask how to handle Michael Cohen just months ago. You know who his lawyers are now, right, rudy giuliani, and jay sekulow. I dont think that just because youre not returned currently youre not a good gauge of your client. Let me tell you something, the president spoke on this just this morning for the world to see. Lets focus on the two big stories of the week according to cnn and msnbc manafort, and
cohen, lets focus on those. Where in the Manafort Trial is Russia Collusion with trump. The president lied about what he knew about these women. He should not lie to the American People in their face time and time against. The Washington Post, its the first lie they ever flagged why is it not important for you to replay and talk about it in the president s own words . Because hes lying. But you dont want people to see him answering his own question. We play his voice all the time. Play the tape. Remind everybody what he said to Michael Cohen. No, not that tape. You know what tape i have spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding yes, and its all the stuff. Did you know about the 130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels . No, no. Did you know about the payment . Later on i knew. Later on. Yeah, he knew later on. He knew before. Hes lying. Is that Michael Cohen and President Trump talking about the deal . Yowl know what tape i want to hear tell us whats on the tape of chris cohn and Michael Cohen. Theres a little difference between you and the shop you work with its as plain on the nose on my face. You should admit hes lying, and you dont and thats why people dont trust you. And you want me to answer your question, i will. Michael cohen had a conversation with him excuse me. He asked me not to record it, i said i wont. He said just to be careful let me have your phone, i did. He then recorded me on a secondary device. How do you feel about that . I think it was dishonest. You know what we talked about in the conversation . Im not going to tell you, eyou know why . Because it was offtherecord and im going to respect that. Im still not going to burn him even though he did something wrong. Theres nothing on it that im worried about. I know why you guys want to leak it but hold on a second, this isnt about a me. You tried, you failed am hes on that tape, on there with Michael Cohen and hes on there lying about these payments and you should admit it. No, i dont. Ill tell you why because you say to people the truth isnt the truth. He says dont believe what you see and hear no, no, hes saying and its all destroying peoples sense of normalcy and diseasan
decency and integrity. Youve asked me ten times the question hes lying. No, thats what you think. Thats what the Washington Post says, david pecker says youre disappointing me right now. Doesnt mean i think youre not my friend just because youre disappointing me. Heres a very, very simple answer to you. When you say to me that this is why the Audience Doesnt Trust you, you know why the Audience Doesnt Trust the white house because all day long on your network all they hear is how terrible we all are, that we lack integrity, that we lie. What is it that you think i lie about . Im asking you to admit that he is lying about what happened on these payments . I dont think it is helpful to you to play games about
something. Ill give you that free advice. True or false, do you think its a lie that i. C. E. And cvp were honored for all the great work theyre doing, that the mayor of philadelphia danced the jig or whatever the heck he was doing after philadelphia let him go and he raped a 5yearold child, none of this is fact, none of this mat snrz. Who said its not true . You keep ducking it. He lied. Why are his words not important to you . Because hes lying. They are important to me. Im asking about them because they are material misrepresentation of fact for the purposes of deception. Its a lie. What crimes were commit snd what charges were filed against donald trump this week . The bar of proper behavior by
a president is a felony. Its a crime of leadership, its a crime of integrity. Stop lying to them. And he is lying. And you know what a lie is that on july 27th you guys came out with this big report, nobody is retracting it yet, three big bylines. Let me get you on the record the other way, do you think the president is telling the truth that he never knew about the payments until after he said he knew about them after the fact. I never knew about them. I dont know when you knew about them. You should care about them. You should absolutely care that the Campaign Manager for the campaign thinks that theres nothing to be gained with meeting with russians and talking to people in moskow instead of people in North Carolina and michigan you
should be reminded that every single night cnn was featuring another woman with another story. You play the access Hollywood Tape constantly thinking it would hurt the candidate, he would never be elected. Cnn interfered in the election dale a daily by shifting the scales are we a phony anonymical power . I get 50 every time you say the word, it used to be collusion by the way, both words matter. We dont know if theres proof of one. Theres an investigation going on that our president disrupts every chance he gets, and lying matters. Youve covered it more than the low Unemployment Rate, more than the consumer you were a world class journalist who used to go to plane crash sites iiest in helsinki would you take that back it was embarrassing what happened in helsinki, and im glad you didnt have to experience it the way we did. Im not ignoring anything. Im speaking to what is true. Booming economy, Consumer Confidence these are indices. The president was asked the same question you were asking me and he answered it. But hes lying. Only he knows what he believes, only he knows what he knows. But thats not true. Because its not a matter of perspective. Its not eyewitness testimony. Hes not the only one who knows if hes telling the truth or not. Michael cohen knows, david pecker knows. Mr. Wisingbering maybe knows. Do you think he should be impeach s impeached . Its not my call to make. Do you think we should tell the truth to the American People do you think he should tell the truth to the American People . Yes, i think you should, too. Do you think he should be impeached for being shown to lie to the American People consistently is he going there before or after he goes to south africa to help out those white farmers that the president mistakenly told people theyre being humtnted down and killed d having their land stolen. Im not perched, telling everyone and pontificating to them. I go out and talk to people. And they say we dont care if the president lies to us about Criminal Conduct . No, what they care about is
the president is doing everything he promised to do. Did he promise to drain the swamp . We were told that everything, the economy, would never be the same, it would be a huge disaster and it went in the opposite direction. Is it okay to lie about Criminal Conduct . Is this all youre going to talk about in this show . I want you to own the truth. Thats what i want you to do. That he has denied. And i work next to him every single day. I see someone whos doing his best for this country and the results show it and you know it. What is the message of this opposition . I dont know it because the division youre using one simple metric of success in leadership. If youre one of 6 million americans that received a bonus or a range who did better, 83 cents of every dollar went to people like us. You want to play facts, i study
them all the time. Please, i treat you as somebody as somebody who comes in here to represent the president. Man, woman, or other youre going to get the same treatment. No one can shut you down. Youre not even letting me speak. 83 cents of every dollar went to the top, okay . The black Unemployment Rate went down with the main Unemployment Rate, but relative to white it is still just as bad. Okay . Thats the right measure. Why doesnt it matter its the lowest in history . It does matter. Why doesnt it matter there are 6. 6 million able jobs right now. The president is working on the back of the opioid crisis. Hes not working on the opioid crisis. Its terrible, its spreading. I cant let you say things that arent true. Go to fox. Okay, im so glad you mentioned fox because none of
you are able to get through most of your shows without talking about them. I almost never mention fox news. Im jealous of the opportunities they get to test power. They just dont take them. Thats what im jealous of. Thats where you got the answers. Listen, im not in the business of attacking people with the answers. Let me tell you if youre going to argue youve got to be straight about it. If you want to talk about africanamericans and the economy, be straight about it. The gap between rich and poor, Black And White is as strong as it has been been. Do you think it went up or down, the number of people in poverty . Oh, i know up. What is the Unemployment Rate among africanamericans and hispanics, veterans, women, way down. It was good when it was happening under obama, too. Now its good its happening under trump. I just did a whole comparative
analysis. How Many Americans dont have health care after obamacare . And lets see whats happening with Peoples Insurance now all over the country. Theres this whole government approach and the house legislation hr6, i know itll never get a platform on cnn because who brought you on tv to talk about opioids . What is it about i did on this show. You dont have to play cheap with me. Just own whats real. In 16 to 17 it increased by 10 . Slowing the growth is not shutting it down. I think what youre trying it to do is good. I think the president saying what he said the other day, you have to look what china is doing
and importing all these opioids into the this country i had you on to talk about it. What youre say is disingenuous and another attempt to make people dislike the media. It all matters. Yeazero died because of collusion. Thats not the bar so if the economy is good, you can lie whenever you want, you can divide the country anyway you want, you can play the racist sympathy whenever you want but its okay because the stock market is up . Is that your argument . I think the president lied about something that refers to Criminal Conduct. Hes telling you right now why old on. I didnt call you a liar. Im saying the president lied about something. You refuse to acknowledge it. That makes you complicit in the lying. Oh, cut it out. Sure it does. If you wont own something you know is a lie where is the charge against the president . You dont need charges to be a liar, and you know it. Chris, wheres the charge against the president . By law there probably cant be any, so thats a false standard. He was just namedads a coconspirator with Michael Cohen. He wasnt named. Hes in the plea agreement. Who was the Person Running for federal office . Was it someone else . Has the president been able to respond to that . 100 million times. And he did on tape yesterday and today. And hes lying. Do you understand . Thats your opinion. The Washington Post covered it all. Michael cohen says it, david pecker says it, the government says it. Okay, all of you were against him and said he could never win, never that doesnt make it okay to
lie. Do you think anything youve discussed in the manafort or cohen trials excuse me or cohen discussed tonight would have made a difference with Hillary Clinton . I dont care about that. That is silly distraction, very trumpy. No, no, excuse me to quote influence an election how do i care about any of that . Hes the president of the yoourns United States, he lied about Criminal Conduct. Youre talking about 2016 no, im not talking about 2016. You are. Im talking about him lying about the these payments again and again to the American People. And he shouldnt do it. And if he wants to pardon manafort, thats his power. Rudy says that if the president says he didnt want any pardons until this is all over, thats up to him. Thats his pardoning power. If he wants to pardon manafort
thats his right, thats his role. Do you think he should pardon Paul Manafort . I think if you invite a white house guest and is with the president , talks to him every day, was in three meetings with him just today you ought to have basic curiosity if not decent integrity to ask me what it is we do there, what were working on. Youre not covering the meeting they had together you dont think it matters he keeps disrespecting his attorney general, undermining confidence in him by the American People in his own department . The president is very clear on this through his tweets, his statement on fox news, highly rated fox news, christopher. He said to them hes upset, frustrated, rightly so. Many of us are frustrated that we never had an investigation on the other side. Some people investigate on the basis of merits. So you think its not merited . So youve got your own
attorney general who loves donald trump even though he just defecates all over the guy on a regular basis. Well, he does. Ive never seen anyone treat someone the way he treats his attorney general. He should leave if hes going to attack him all the time. No american is impacted by your nonsense collusion, your fana fantasy in 2016 they were together after that. Arent you the least bit interested i think it speaks to Jeff Sessions having a hell of a lot sense of duty to the American People. I would at least expect you as someone who love his country and i know you do to say, you know what, kelly, here are five things donald trump has done as president. Can you name them . Because thats not my job. Thats not my job. Your job is to say the president of the united
states to make sure the integrity of their leadership and their about to look to the American People and tell the truth is intact. The Corporate Tax rate does the truth mat, yes or no . The truth always matters. Good. Is he telling it truth about these papyments. You decide selectively is he telling the truth about these payments in. Theres wall to wall coverage about a missing woman woman in iowa until she was found, and god rest her soul and you dont even have the decency youre not letting her soul rest. Youre waving a flag. How dare you and how dare the president and you do that. Just like kate stein lelee. If you dont want to abuse them
like the president does then you dont care about you dont care about the ones who have been murdered. Over 17,000 murders in this country in 2016. How many times has he stood up and said this is an atrusty when it happens. Only when the people who killed them is someone he wants to target. Thats not true. What happened to the democrats, cnn covered 5 minutes of a Cabinet Meeting in late january where he was flanked by the democrats and republicans from the house and senate to talk about daca, the dreamers. Where did they go they brought out a deal, schumer told me, and he denied it. Theres the truth