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CNNW Early Start With Christine Romans And Laura Jarrett January 14, 2021

The resolution is adopted. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. House impeachment managers just starting to lay out their strategy for the case. A key issue remains whether to subpoena documents or witnesses. That could, of course, prolong the trial in the senate. There was bipartisan condemnation of the president and all of his enablers from shaken lawmakers yesterday, but Big Questions this morning. When will the single article of impeachment be sent to the senate. What will the trial of the soon to be former president look like and will the senate convict him this time around . Suzanne malveaux is live for us on capitol hill. Suzanne, whats the very latest . Good morning. Impeachment 2. 0, nothing like what we had actually covered in december 2019. It was lightning speed fast and it really united democrats behind impeachment effort, but also what we saw as well is ten republicans getting behind the impeachment. The final numbers, 232 to 197. Of those republicans standing out, the number three republican representative liz cheney being among them. They were moderates, conservatives getting behind it as well. They were condemning the false accusations of a false election and what many said to convince them to hold the president accountable is they saw videos after after they huddled close together, just the degree, the extent of the fear and the danger and the calls of assassination for the Vice President and speaker pelosi. Take a listen. Unless we address this and tackle it head on, unless we make sure to send a resounding message that this is not acceptable, then we risk just papering over some of these divisions. The wounds will never truly heal unless we air them out, unless we fully understand what happened and unless we send that signal this is not something that can ever be acceptable from an american leader. The president took an oath to defend the constitution to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic. Last week there was a threat at the door of the capitol and he did nothing to stop it. My fellow americans, i rise today to stand against our enemy and to clarify the enemy isnt the president or the president elect. Fear is our enemy. Fear tells us what we want to hear, it incites anger and violence and fire. Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell is signaling privately that, yes, he approves of the impeachment process and perhaps that these were impeachable offenses but he is not scheduling for the senate to come back until they are resumed to come back, that being january 19th, the day before the inauguration, but quietly telling colleagues that he believes potentially this could purge trump from the Republican Party if there is a successful conviction. That would take 2 3 in the senate or at least 17 members of the Republican Party. But mcconnell saying this in a letter to his gop colleagues, while the press has been full of speculation, i have not made a final decision on how i will vote and i intend to listen to the legal arguments when they are presented to the senate. That is very significant, laura, when you consider the last go round he said he would not be able to be an impartial juror. So the fact that he is able to listen to this and consider it is significant. At the same time, we will see the democrats who will control the senate when they come back in this impeachment process, the trial continues and that would be under the democratic leader, the new leader schumer. Things could not be more different this time around. Suzanne, thank you for that. Thank you. Meanwhile, president elect joe biden is walking a fine line this morning with President Trumps impeachment now sealed, biden cannot ignore the trial in the senate. He still has a country to run and he expects lawmakers to multitask saying this nation also remains in the grip of a deadly virus and a reeling economy. I hope that the Senate Leadership will find a way to deal with their Constitutional Responsibilities on impeachment while also working on the other urgent business of this nation. Cnns jeff zeleny has more. Reporter good morning, laura and christine. One week from today joe biden will be the president of the United States. In fact, hell be about 12 hours or more than that into his first term, and the question here is impeachment. That is one thing that he is inheriting from the trump presidency. Its nothing hes enthusiastic about of course but its something that he simply has to deal with. I am told that biden aides and advisers are working behind the scenes with Senate Democrats as well as house impeachment managers to try to keep the impeachment trial as swift and efficient as possible. The reason is this, joe biden wants to keep his focus in the early days on passing a covid relief bill, getting more money out to vaccination distribution and getting his nominees confirmed. Defense secretary, secretary of state, the head of the dni, National Intelligence community. These are his chief concerns. We are going to hear from the president elect tonight here in wilmington. Hell be putting some finishing touches on his covid plan, exactly what he is calling for. He supports 2,000 checks for americans here, a significant boost from the last covid relief package. Even though he is focusing on his agenda, one thing is clear, impeachment will be there waiting for him when he takes office. Laura and christine . Jeff zeleny, thank you so much for that. Now six days until joe bidens inauguration. Lets bring in john avlon and Daily Beast Washington Bureau chief jackie kucinich. Great to see you all this morning. Thanks for getting up extra early. Jackie, first to you, how do only ten House Republicans support trumps impeachment. It was zero last time when he was impeached but there wasnt a deadly insurrection last time. How do only 10, 10 out of that entire caucus vote for impeachment . I think theres a lot of reasons. First we should say this is more people in the same party than have ever voted for impeachment of the president of the same party. 10 while it doesnt seem like a lot is an historic number stepping back. But, you know, you had democratic members saying their republican colleagues, some were afraid to stand up to the president and their supporters because of threats which is in and of itself terrorism, but you know, there are others who are true believers. We heard them on the floor last night as well. Some of them saying that there was a lot of what aboutism going on. Yeah, the more we learn about what happened at the capitol, the worse it gets. So its unlikely that these ten republicans are going to look back on the vote and regret it. Senator Mitch Mcconnell says he has not made a decision yet on impeachment. Wow. What a seismic shift. By saying so little he has said so much. He has defended, supported, enabled this president through everything in four years. He couldnt keep his caucus in line for the electoral vote. Josh hawley, ted cruz, others went rogue. What is he thinking now . Will other republicans follow his lead . Im sure hes counting votes and he also probably wants to be done with donald trump. He got what he wanted. He got his judges. He navigated that relationship, but in the end donald trump hurt the republicans. They lost seats and they lost the senate because of trumps narcissistic behavior and focus in the run up to the georgia runoff. So i think there are two things at play here. He could have gotten the senate to convene earlier than january 19th. Theres a question whether there would have been enough republican votes to actually convict the president. In this case he actually sort of, the argument goes, keeps the president on Good Behavior because he wants something, i. E. , not to be impeached, and also creates potential complications for a biden presidency Going Forward. Keep in mind, in the house and i believe in the senate when this is heard, this will be the most bipartisan impeachment in American History and that means a lot, even if the numbers dont seem impressive from a daze distance. Jackie, i think it is fair to say there is a crisis within the Republican Party and there is a basic question what comes next now that trump has basically burned the bar down on his way out the door. You have congressmen who want liz chen be any out. Cheney said she is not going anywhere. Shes not intimidated by the likes of jim jordan. They experienced firsthand the mob that stormed the capitol. Then the victims got to indict the man behind the mob. Right. Listen to the House Republican leader, kevin mccarthy. The president bears responsibility for wednesdays attack on congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. So mccarthy says trump bears responsibility and he voted against impeachment. That angered some of his staffers. Thats how we know about it. How do republicans find their way forward . Thats a good question, laura. Youre right, there are a lot of internal riffs. There are voters angry for voting for it and against it. Liz cheney mid last year she was going up against the president and didnt show the same resonance that you had that other republican members have shown. But Going Forward theres still going to be a minority. Theres more of them. Theres a real reckoning internally as to, you know, how they do go forward as a party for sure and, you know, in the senate. Well see that as well because theyre not in the majority over there either. John, joe biden has a country to run. Hes urging the senate not let impeachment put a stop to other work. Hes going to lay out his covid rescue package today. He talks about a country whose economy is reeling. It needs to be healed. He has confirmations on the calendar for the intel community. Four others set. Pragmatically can this divided senate do it all, do what joe biden needs to do right out of the gate and also proceed with the senate trial of the former president at the time in. Sure it can. Biden will front load his agenda. The fact the democrats control the chamber cannot be overstated. Also the fact biden enters the presidency, the most experienced legislator to hold the office since lbj. There are areas of clear bipartisan consensus forced by the pandemic. Impeachment itself looks like there could be some degree of bipartisanship. Biden is not going to sacrifice his agenda on the altar of convicting donald trump. Hes going to put building his administration first. Frankly, given the resistance that the Trump Administration has given him to operation warp speed, dod, omb which is absolutely another break and destruction of democratic norm, he needs to get up to speed fast and that means front loading his agenda and nominations asap. John avlon, jackie kucinich, well get you back in a little bit. The president s reaction to a second impeachment. A whole lot of blame, no responsibility. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the Commission Fees so you can start investing today, wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. Do you have a Life Insurance policy you no longer need . Now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. Call Coventry Direct to learn more. 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It was a cleanup video, and the president s lawyers over at the white house had warned him that if he didnt do something, he was going to be in even more jeopardy of being sued, of being prosecuted so he goes out and does a video and tells all his supporters that they need to stop the violence, but there are a whole lot of things the president didnt say. He didnt talk about the transition of power. He didnt talk about joe biden and he didnt talk about probably the most important thing, which is all the lies he told in the weeks and weeks leading up to this impeachment. What is happening over at the white house is that the president remains hold up inside watching tv virtually blaming everybody but himself for his predicament, and people in the white house as well are pointing fingers at each other as a result. The president has essentially gotten everybody riled up, but at this point were also hearing that there have been some reprizes of past things the president has done, including a report in the New York Times that the president actually wanted to go up to capitol hill to make the case for himself, this is a rerun of something that happened during his last impeachment but, frankly, too late for that because at the end of the day, this is the president s legacy. Its a lot of chaos. Its a lot of dividing the country. Back to you. Joe, you have an anecdote of one aide there talking about the lies, just the lies and sort of what a lesson it is to your kids. Absolutely. Tell us about that. Reporter well, one aide telling cnn that the president essentially has sellt himself u in the position wherefore all of the future hes going to become the example of what happens to people who continue to lie, and thats something weve been talking about probably for the last four years. Five if you count the election, the last election. Joe johns, thank you so much. Talk again soon. Lets bring back john avlon and jackie kucinich. Joe johns talking about the trump advisor saying this is going to be the example you use talking to your kids about lying the last years of this presidency, about telling the truth. That may not be the case for everybody. A lot of trump space Still Believes what they hear because they hear it on a loop ft. Meade yeah, the media feeds him. Its a destructive cycle. Does the impeachment move the needle for anyone, john . Reporter i think it does. The fact hes the only president to be impeached twice, that he holds 50 of the impeachments in u. S. History indicates a degree of consequence for lying. The riot at the capitol was a function of his riot and people believing it. The fever is not going to break overnight but republicans and white house staffers are starting to admit in public that the president has lied to his supporters. Now theyre deeply invested in that lie because they will lose face and indeed part of their identity if they admit they have been lied to by their leader. That is in fact what has happened. The more consequence and information that comes out, the more time that passes, the more that fever may begin to break. Jackie, you have the backdrop of impeachment of course but you also have lawmakers who have other stuff they need to get done. Stuff from everyday people but the level of mistrust among them i just find so striking. You have congresswoman mickey cheryl accusing the other side of essentially giving rogue tours, Reconnaissance Missions essentially, to some people before the riots last week. You have congresswoman Ayanna Pressley saying the panic buttons in her office were ripped out as other members apparently are aghast that they have to go through metal detectors. These are not policy disagreements. These people do not trust each other. Right. The installation of the metal detectors was a striking thing. You couldnt have them acting like adults and walking through, the pin they wear is very empowering. Youre right. Fundamentally you asked john if impeachment moved the needle. This riot moved the needle and i think there are very deep, deep particularly in that building, the people that did have to shelter, the people that were texting their families that they were alive, there are some deep wounds there and perhaps where you would have members arguing over policy and then they would go have a beer or coffee after work, that there are members saying that they worked with people there on the other side. They cant look at them in the eyes anymore because of their actions that day. So these are divisions, these arent policy divisions, this is personal. This is very personal for a lot of those members and those riffs are going to be extremely hard to mend Going Forward. You know, john, the republicans have aspirations for Higher Office are a pretty Important Group to watch. Overnight senator tom cotton said he imposes impeachment because trump will already be out of office. T

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