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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront January 13, 2015

Burnett. Outfront breaking news. A new arrest in connection to paris attacks. Reuters is suspects ties and the brothers of course are behind it. Al qaedas recruiter in europe tied to two of the terrorist. A western intelligence source says the whereabouts tonight unknown. France on the highest state of alert searching for more possible accomplices terrorist from last weeks attacks. More than 13,000 troops are deployed as there is no doubt more accomplices are out there and an International Manhunt is on for the wife of the kosher supermarket Amedy Coulibaly. This is her going for her passport. Its believed she crossed into syria the day before the husband was killed in a shootout in the kosher supermarket. People rally for peace, leaders joined the march in participate and the white house acknowledged it made a mistake. I think its fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. Unusual for them to come out like that. They did, though, and addmitted they thought it was a mistake. I want to start with breaking news. What can you tell us about the accomplices . Reporter well ill tell you its been a burning question since the minute the gunmen stormed into the officers on this street last week. Were there others involved . We got that answered with certainty today. The french Prime Minister saying highly likely there was another accomplice. Police sources, perhaps as many as six unclear whether thats accomplices or associates of attackers but now we have another name a frenchman trying to cross from boll cargaria to syria. This shows that there was a web behind these attacks still at large and that helps explain why you have such a Massive Police presence military presence around france tonight. And jim, you know incredible that there is just this fear that they dont know how many there might be just in this one group, never mind other groups that i know they are concerned about. Weve been hearing about a key al qaeda recruiter who recruited many and has been connected to two of the terrorists in last weeks attacks and officials dont know where he is either, right . Reporter i know. Its incredible. This is jamal bagul. He was then put on house arrest unclear where he is right now. This firms up the ties to al qaeda. We knew that the attackers here at Charlie Hebdo claim ties. This now draws a connection to core al qaeda in pakistan which is again, alarming certainly not just for france showing these groups active here but for the u. S. Because these are the groups that the u. S. Considers most likely to attempt to carry out on attack on u. S. Soil. Pretty stunning but the punishment for such a planning when you talk about the Embassy Attack is house arrest. Jim sciutto reporting live from paris and new details about the man that carried out the deadly attack at a kosher supermarket and his companion. This is what police thought he was with with. They thought perhaps she fled with hostages but now they say, she actually was thousands of miles away. Miguel marquez has our report. Reporter hayat boumeddinee believed to be escapeed to syria this picture taken january 2nd days before the coordinated attacks in paris shows boumeddiene, the more radical of the couple. He told cnns jake tapper french intelligence agents recorded a 2010 telephone conversation in which she called coulibaly not a serious man, he only thinks about having fun. Coulibaly seen here killed while rushing at police after murdering four jewish men at a kosher deli. Prosecutors say evidence points to coulibaly shooting a jogger the same night of the attack by the kuoachi brothers. Everything is pointing to the fact that this was coordinated before hand between coulibaly and the two brothers. He had the weapons ready to go. Reporter coulibaly the only boy in his family of ten children. His parents muslim but not religious. He distanced himself from family. They are reviewing this video of coulibaly for possible leads. He declares his allegiance to isis. You attack isis we attack you he says. You cant attack and not get back anything in return. Coulibaly who had a string of robbery and drug charges was according to his lawyer introduced to the kouachi brothers by this man plotting to blow up the u. S. Embassy in paris. In 2010 coulibaly and the kouachi brothers were in an attempt to free a terrorist from prison. Coulibaly got out of prison in 2014. His racialism home grown unlike the kouachi brothers that trained in yemen. He took a trip to malaysia with his girlfriend hayat Hayat Boumeddiene. There could be more coulibaly and more kouachi attackers out there. This is the big question are there more coulibaly strikers out there . When he was Holding Hostages in the deli tried to call someone encouraging them to strike. That person didnt but Police Agencies around the world are on alert for just such another attack. Thank you very much. Chilling when you look at the signs, so many things known and not able to stop this. Outfront tonight, our coal done condolences for you as youre going through the mourning process of this event at your home. I know you went to the white house today and met with president s top counter official. Do you know at this point who ordered or orchestrated these attacks . No. One of the questions that we have is to know al qaeda or the assault of a professional quarter for the attacks or simply that they gave some moment assault of general guidance to attack french interest. At this stage, we dont know what was the network and where, whether there was a network, how the network was working. Now the french Prime Minister today said and i want to quote him, he said he has quote no doubt there are accomplices to the attacks at large tonight. That is something that is very terrifying. Do you think another attack is possible . Well you know we the president the french president said we are not over with this threat. In a sense, we have been fearing such an attack for sometime. We have hundreds of young french who have come to syria or to yemen who have been military trained, so we have thousands of people so at any moment were fearing anybody could go [speaking foreign language] and it happened. And let me ask you about that. I know french authorities were watching both kouachi brothers at some point. They were on the american nofly list. Did the United States share all of its information with you in advance . Did you know everything the United States knew . By definition i dont know because im not working in the intelligence field, but what i know and what actually president obama told me is that the intelligence sharing between the two countrys is working well. There is always room for improvement but weve been working very well. Let me ask you about the key question. Part of the problem is both brothers were known to french intelligence at some point in time you know in part because of involvement in trying to free a terrorist and perhaps because of travels and they went off the radar because they werent blatantly violating the law but traveling to syria and to yemen. But they dropped on the terror priority list. Tonight we have more than 18,000 French Police and troops that are trying to protect sensitive locations. I know that you and france believe in free speech like here in the United States but i guess the question is when youre aware of people going to places like syria or yemen or trying to free a terrorist, you know they did those things are you considering just detaining them saying, you know what . This free speech thing is great but if someone is involved, were going to detain them were not going to risk this happening again . First, if you remember with the 9 11 you know afterwards its very easy to see, to say well actually you should have seen the attack coming. You know afterwards its always easy to put the pieces of the puzzle together. So maybe some mistakes have be committed. There aban inwill be an investigation of that. We have youth in france and you cant arrest them because of their opinion. We are democracy. At the same time you cant monitor them 24 7 because it would mean those are thousands of policemen. So its very complicated in this type of threat how to face the challenge. I mean i guess its hard. I understand what youre saying but in a sense its admitting that there is no way. You have to accept this could happen again. Well, i think, you know i think it was the head of the m i5, the British Secret service said an attack against the uk is highly likely. I think that every head of secret Service Throughout the world could say the same right now. Today the white house spokesman josh earnest, it was an unusual move. I know you heard it but he admitted the Obama Administration should have sent someone else. It was a big deal for administration to admit a mistake. Did they apologize . No and they didnt need to do it. The president came to the French Embassy, the secretary came to the French Embassy and made several moving public decoloration,s. The controversy is very real but the french up ins are reporting the controversy as an american continue rersroversy because in france it didnt recite any feeling. We failed this report of the americans and that matters. Jewish schools and synagogues are getting extra protection from French Forces last year we reported 7,000 jews left france for israel in response to a rise for acts. Prime minister netanyahu said to french jews quote, the state of israel is your home. Thats got to be something that hits you both ways. Its you know in a sense its a slap to france and where jews can be safe there. Can you protect the population . Ill be a bit personal because ive been ambassador. Personally im devastated by the idea that some of my friends are going to israel because they feel they dont feel safe in france. It would be a Major Political human failure of the French Republican if you are not able to protect the jewish come patriotspateand well do our best to face it. All right. Well ambassador i really appreciate your time and thank you. An incredible difficult time for you. Next cnns exclusive video of where one of the kouachi brothers lived, the under wear bomber and a jihadest meetings with the al qaeda leader that may have inspired the paris attacks. Mortin storm is out front and people trapped outside the kosher supermarket. The ordeal in their own words outfront. Daughter do you and mom still have money with that broker . Dad yeah, 20 something years now. Thinking about what you want to do with your money . Daughter looking at options. What do you guys pay in fees . Dad i dont know exactly. Daughter if youre not happy do they have to pay you back . Dad it doesnt really work that way. Daughter you sure . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at Charles Schwab. Ah, push it. Push it. P. Push it real good ow oooh baby baby. Baby baby. If youre saltnpepa, you tell people to push it. Push it real good. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance you switch to geico. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. Im pushing. Im pushing it real good now a cnn exclusive, tonight were learning new details about the life of one of the gunmen involved in the terror attack in france. The older kouachi was a student in yemen that befriended a nigerian man that later was known as the under wear bomber that tried to blow up an american plane on Christmas Day. Video of the dorm where the two terrorist lived. Reporter the streets of yemen where said koua a chi and cherif may have learned the same thing at the same time. Both perpetrators of the paris shootings were in country for about three months from april 2011. Here said over multiple trips from 2009 studied arabic played football with children sometimes and made some very highprofile friends. Briefly, sharing a room with Umar Farouk Abdul mutallab who tried to blow up a plane in 2009. Where in 2011 kouachi met this researcher. [speaking foreign language] just little bit down there and lived at that place. Reporter he shows our producer the institute lodgings where he says the paris gunmen and the underwear bomber shared an apartment together for about a week or two in 2009 but said he remembers what kouachi told him about the underware bomber. Very quiet person and rarely talked to people. Reporter those former lodgers are now office space, the School Closed down. Despite this link to one of the most famous attempted bombers of the last decade somehow quiet kouachi later fell off the french intelligence radar. He was very nice guy. Very cheerful. Reporter the senior official thinks young erer cherif may have attended an Islamic School where he may have attended al qaeda camps. Serious and dazzling warning signs coming too late for those they murdered. I should point out yemen officials we talked to are struggling to present a unified time the brothers yes, the brothers plural spent in yemen. It is after all a failing state but remarkable to see the volume of warning signs, said there between 2009 and 2011 briefly the roommate of one of the more noted failed bombers of the past decade the underware bomber and cherif there attending training camps. A lot of warning signs and questions for the french and western authorities to be answering. Erin . Thats for sure. Thank you. You heard the french ambassador say all of it pieces together but its much harder leading in. Those are questions that will be under investigation but now morten storm is out front a former jihadist and worked for western intelligence as a double agent. Storm helped the cia locate the terrorist killed by a u. S. Drone strike in september 2011. He is believed to have inspired the kouachi brothers and they wanted to avenge his death and the Christmas Day underware bomber to blow up the plane and the tsarnaev brothers. He wrote my life inside al qaeda and the cia. Because storm remains a tar get for al qaeda, were not disclosing exactly where he is in the united kingdom. I appreciate you taking the time to be with with us and be out and speak. I know you met with him many times in 2006 you were part of a close circle. We have video when you met him and working as a double agent. Give than you met him so many times, you knew him, what was it about him that made him so effective at recruiting people . He had, first of all, the english language and malsstered the language and had that charisma that few had. He could connect with people and was humble and when he did talk about something related to islam, he would refer back to the use the references from the koran and the profit sayings and all that. He was a very scholarly person and know what he was talking about and knew how to reach peoples minds. Its interesting when you talk about his charisma. When you were with him and he was trying to have you operate for him to recruit people how specific was he . Did he want you to try to help recruit people europeans like the kouachi brothers . Yes, indeed. Why was working as an agent, he obviously wanted us he ask me specifically to recruit brothers from europe who had clean passports and send them to yemen to receive the training and again to the European Countries and become sleeping cells, and that is exactly what happened in france is what he wanted to do. And he had to be people or brothers who are not known at the authorities and who had to act like normal as if they were normal citizens when they return back again. Thats the way that they operate. Do you think that there are others mortin, now doing the same thing trained by or inspired by his death who are waiting to attack . Absolutely. We know there are many hundreds of them who returned back to europe and possible even north america and the only problem some of them have is to prepare themselves for this attacks. So maybe to get the weapons is difficult for them in europe. So it has been a longer time but there is no doubt once they become desperate and run out of time they use knives and weve seen that for the last few months in france. And morten what would he have promised recruits . I mean obviously, in all of these cases they have to be willing. They seem to want to get away but they were ultimately willing to die for their cause as they saw it. How did he get recruits to be willing to die . It a part of the faith. Its a part of what they believe in. They believe that there is no other thing that can reward them higher than to die asz as marchers. They were actively running away to create more destruction for france and more death. So basically, they wanted to die at the end. They knew that. Thats why they ran into the bullets and never give in or give up so. And morten we have a video of you in august of 2013 an isis video. They are firing at enemies of islam is what this is saying. I know you helped lead the cia to him. Now weve sewn what happened to people whose names are on al qaedas list or inspire magazine. How fearful are you for your life . I cant live in my own country. I cant tell you or anyone elsewhere i live. Only very few people in this world know where i live and my life is in danger. There is no doubt about it. We appreciate the taking the time to talk to us and tell your story. His story is incredible, how he went down the path for jihad and believed in it and saw the light and helped the cia and western intelligence take down one of the worlds most dangerous terrorist. His story area tonight at 9 00 eastern. We hope you will watch. Next Amazing Stories of survival from people held inside the kosher supermarket. Plus cherif kouahii as a young rapper. Its not just something he d. Its being used to recruit extremists. Our special report. Can this decadent, fruit topped pastry. With indulgent streusel crumble, be from. Fiber one. Fiber one streusel. Sheila you see this ball control . 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