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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront April 3, 2019

Formally requested the six years of the tax return. They have give and delinquent 7 days. President says im under audit, translation, no way. Mr. President , the chairman of the Democratic House ways and Means Committee moments ago asked the irs for six years of tax return zblos is that all . Thats all. Oh. Usually its ten. I guess theyre giving up. Until such time as im not under audit i would not be inclined to do that. Okay. Not inclined to do that. This is the letter that just came to the commissioner of the irs. Chairman richard neil from the house ways and mean asking for trumps business and personal tax returns. Chairman neil says the request is part of his responsibilities. Lauren fox is outfront live at capitol hill. After getting the letter she broke the story first. The chairman has been handling this carefully. Now putting in out there, and starting whats going to be a big war. Why now . Well, erin, thats right. The day after the election i went up and i interviewed richard neil. He told me then he planned to do this. That was back in november. Of course once democrats took the majority in january he had a case to build. They expect that this will go to the courts. Therefore they need to an air sealed tight case when it comes to requesting the tax returns opinion thats why its taken so long. We have been asking members on that committee, many liberal members getting a little frustrated with how long it was taking their chairman no request the tax returns. But, you know in this letter he had very specific reasons why he wanted the information. He said in the letter, quote, consistent with its authority, the committee is considering legislative proposals in conducting oversight related to our federal fax laws, including but not limited to the extent which the irs audits and enforces the federal tax laws against a president. Now, there is a program at the irs where essentially they audit current sitting president s. Now the president already said he was under audit long before he took office in the oval office. But in is a formal process for all mts. Richard neil saying i need to know more about that process to know if we need to codify it into law. We need to know whats happening erin. Thank you very much. Lets go to democratic congressman lloyd doing et on the house ways and means. Good to have you with us. Thank you erin. You took your time and you you are striking now when you think youve got what you need. What are you hoping to find . Well, after two years of republican coverup of these and the many motions i made in the committee and three long months in the new congress im pleased the request has been made. We have responsibility to ensure the integrity of our tax system, evaluate what happens in the tax legislation and actions inform administration. S in long overdue. I would have liked it to be earlier and broader in scope. But i think this is a very good beginning and i salute chairman neil for his thoroughness and care in may go the request. This could be huge. I want to play again what the president just said to reporters and basically saying, no way to you guys. He is going to fight it. Let me play it again. Because there is something important in here. Mr. President , the chairman of the Democratic House ways and Means Committee moments ago asked the irs for six years of your tax returns. Is that all . Thats all. Usually its ten. I guess theyre giving up. Until such time as im not under audit i would not be inclined to do that. You know, look, he is saying he is being audited. What im focused in here is his surprise you guys arent requesting ten or more years. We have the information we have learned from taxes, a leaked return from 2005 which would be outside your range. Showed he paid 38 million in taxes on more than 150 million in income. Tax schemes to avoid paying taxes was from a massive New York Times analysis. But all of that predates what you are asking for. Are you worried you didnt ask for enough . The six years you are asking for he was planning to run for president in that time. Yes. As you know in the legislation thats peaced the house the people act, it specifies a tenier period and it specifies businesses where he is a principal orion. This is more narrow as to the number of witnessens businesses and length of time. It doesnt mean thats the last request. But i think the chairman carefully tailored in request to make it easy for the Treasury Department to comply with the 100yearold statute. When secretary mnuchin came in front of our committee i asked him what part of shall does he need legal advice on . It requires really a ministerial duty by the Internal Revenue and service and the secretary. You mentioned the audits, erin, this is an important point. We have the Richard Nixon experience. Very similar situation. The irs at that time actually praised nixon. But when we got the information at the ways and Means Committee, my predecessors there, it turned out he owed almost half a Million Dollars in taxes. Thats when he asked the committee to look to determine whether he was a crook. He ended up having to pay more taxes. In psa review not only of his action but of the internal ref gnaw service to ensure theyve been doing their job. When you mention complying, though, the treasury secretary steven mnuchin, obviously trumps treasury secretary overseeing the i say. He makes the call. You did ask him if he would comply. I wanted to play a quick part of his response. Right. Im not aware of theres ever been a request for an elected officials tax return but we will follow the law and protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under in re rights. Which was a fancy which of saying he is not going to do it. I mean the irs website says the law generally prohibits the release of Tax Information by an irs employee. Do you have any expectation of secretary unusualen will comply. I support that law completely. Thats part of the law that authorizes us to request these returns and says that they shall be provided. Yes, mr. Mnuchin is mr. Double talk. He is about as straightforward as our attorney general mr. Barr is on the mueller report. The emphasis there was on him protecting the president. He has a statutory duty and if he does not comply our committee needs to take further legal action. Will you do . You have a tight date here you know theyre not meeting it. Its next we can. Youre not giving them much time theyre going to flaunt you. What are you doing then . Theyve had plenty of time in that same hearing where i asked mr. Mnuchin, he indicated he had some exchange and conversation was chairman neil about this. Theyve been aware of this for a long time. Now they finally have the message. Yes. Its time for them to fulfill the ministerial duty and deliver the returns. If they dont we need to take prompt legal action. Mr. Trump obviously can put his money through a lot of ways other than the personal return. Thats why you requested business returns but he has four hundred different companies. You requested eight. Why those eight . Are you sure those are the right ones. No im not i would have preferred to request more. He has about 50 oh such companies in his Financial Disclosure form. I think what were selected with the five companies most involved in the Trump Organization plus three golf courses. Its a good beginning. And it may be that in a thorough review of them we will find the needed of other returns. I should make clear the fact we get the returns doesnt mean we will be broughting them on the program or the front page of the New York Times. We will honor the president s privacy, review them carefully with experts before making any decision on whether they shall be released to the congress and the public. I think he is owed that. But he owes a responsibility to the American People to comply with what the law is. Is congressman doggett i appreciate your time. Thank you. And i want to go to our analyst glor gloria borger. I suppose they could go broader. But what do you make of it . They have chosen to do it. The president said no way. And here we are. This first of all shows you the power of the majority. This is something the democrats have been talking about a long time. But what i think congressman neil did is make a very narrow legal argument that he and the democrats believe will stand up in court. And they say the irs is required they dont need a subpoena that the irs is required to give them this information, and so they said look, we are trying to look at this. And this is a contrived argument in a way because they wanted to make it narrow you are required to give us this information because all president s are under audit. And we dont know what standards you use for president s when they are under audit. You know, do you look at their businesses . Do you just look at their stated income . And we want to codify how you look at president ial tax returns, because we dont really know. Thats the narrow argument. And they believe. Yes. Obviously this is going to court. But they wanted it stand up. For sure. Obviously well see. Because if they get it and are able to get more this is huge, right. Its hard to understate the importance. Absolutely. It comes to the power of the majority is so important. The House Judiciary Committee approving a subpoena for the full mueller report. What happens there next . I think this is could go to court. I think what they were doing was essentially saying to barr you better deliver because otherwise were taking to you court. So its another area in which the democrats are saying, you know, we are not lying down. We believe in ought to be released to the american public. And, you know, congressman nadler said, look im not sending out the subpoena today. But it was a shot across the bow to barr saying we are putting pressure on you here to do what you need to do which is reel. Were ready to revel. Gloria thank you. Sure. And next breaking news, the fisher now investigating the the Security Breach at maralago. We are learning more much more about this tonight. Plus joe biden responding. Protecting personal space have been reset. And i get it. And the mayor pete making his case to College Voters saying that he is now competing against people twice his age for Younger Voters. Here is the question who are young voters backing . 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She is behind bars ton. President trump though moments ago saying he has no worries. Im not concerned at all. I have we have very good control extremely good and getting better. I think that was a flouk situation. The result is they were able to get her. And she is now suffering the consequences of whatever it is she had in mind. Shimon is outfront. Shimon, its incredible whats happening and now learning the fbi also involved. What else do you know. Yeah and with the fbi involvement it makes it more serious. The secret service handling the criminal aspects of this case. The trespassing, lying to them about what he was doing there, the allegations, thats what theyre dealing with. The fbi here has a bigger concern. And really essentially what were told is they want to see if she was sent here by anyone, specifically it would have to be the chinese, whether she was coming here to act as a some kind of spy orr intelligence asset on behalf of the chinese. And thats the big concern here. The malware, right we talked about this last night, erin. This malware is i think whats causing folks concern. Was there dsh was it on they are thumb drive to be delivered into perhaps a Computer System into the system at maralago . And thats sitcom that the fbi certainly is going to look into. The other thing we learned from a Court Proceedings a few days ago in her initial appearance, prosecutors there said she had no ties to the United States. She has no connections for the u. S. She had no connections to florida. So certainly more questions that need to be asked more mystery here as to exactly what she was doing there, how she got to florida, all those things is what the fbi is going to try and figure out, ehn. You know, thank you very much shimon. All of this concern because in part the reason she got so far in getting into club was because of the last name xiong and someone else a member of the club has that name and they kept letting her through which is scarey in and of itself that they would do that. Outfront now miami hermd reporter alex darity former assist secretary for the department of homeland security. And jail gallonio. Alex youve been doing reporting. Your reporting there was investigation underway. They were worried already looking at chinese operations targeting the president and maralago and now this arrest turbo charge the probe. Thats the key, this investigation was ongoing before the arrest over the weekend. This is something that the fbi an fbiled investigation has been going on for some time before even initial reports of potential chinese influence and interaction at maralago. In raises concerns of an ongoing attempt at maralago to potentially gain access to the president , his family, or the inner workings of the club. James, look you heard the president. He has no concerns. But this is this is serious stuff. You got the fbi involved. So to shimons report and alexs reporting to their point, lets understand the lanes here. The secret service handles the president s immediate security. The fbi has a list of priorities. Number one is preventing the next terrorist attack on u. S. Soil. The number two out of 10 priorities for the fbi is to protect america from foreign intelligence provisions and espionage. Now to not think that they were nopt already looking at in place lunacy. E beginning would be i mean this is something that, you know, yes, Franklin Dell know roosevelt had warm springs. Barack obama had the kenwood residential area in chicago. And george bunner bush had the crawford western white house in texas. Those were residences this presents a member because maralago has a Membership Base and it is open at times to the public presenting a entirely different security concern for the secret service and fbi. So juliette, part of the thing is what she i want to get to the malware in a second. But what this woman was doing. We have audio from her today. Here she is and everyone can judge for themselves her english. And thats highway ask you to listen to because this is important. Yes, please, translate thank you so that it would be more clearly Understanding Chinese than in english. Okay. Maralago staff, joult, said that they first gave her access to the property on saturday do you to a potential language barrier issue. So broken english. But in the criminal complaint secret Service Agent very explicitly says they spent time with her and talked to her and quote she exhibited a detailed knowledge and ability to converse in and understand even subtle nuances of the english language. So this not speaking english well appears to be a farce. Right she is a fraud and not some innocent chinese woman who happened to see an advertisement about come meet the trumps at maralago. She is playing for someone. And we dont know if its a government entity, someone testing the system. And thats key here is the that someone was testing the system.

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