Then we will make you inside russias doping deception. How in the world did they do it . How did they fool the world . Fascinating story. Also, the terrible violence of recent weeks reminds us yet again of the fraught relationship between africanamericans and the criminal Justice System. Civil rights lawyer Brian Stevenson says that problems will continue until the nation addresses the root cause. We made up this ideology of White Supremacy in america, and we havent confronted it. But first, heres my take. Donald trump set a reported on thursday for the longest speech delivered by the nominee at a convention in decades. If one were able to go back and measure the decibel levels from the past, im sure he would win that prize as well. We are going to build a great border wall. The speech was screamed more than spoken, but the media matched the message. Trump painted a picture of america that was darker than candidate in modern memory. Theres been paralegals drawn to nixons speech at the 1978 republican convention, but that was sunny by comparison, can you imagine nixon saying this . Open cities, open hearts, open minds. Or this. Let us increase the wealth of america so we can provide more generously for the needy and all those who cannot support themselves. And it was a time of national crisis. The soviet union and the United States were locked in a cold war, proxy wars between the two superpowers were ongoing around the world. The United States had half a million troops in vietnam, with half a mitwo of the countries m respected leaders, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther king jr. Had been assassinated, the latter producing race riots in more than 100 american cities, crime was rising dramatically. The United States has emerged from the Great Recession of 2009 better than any of the worlds major economies. It has produced more than 14 million jobs since 2010. More than the 35 other advanced economies combined as polifact has noticed. When obama took office, 9. 6 million on an annualized basis, last month they reached 16. 6 million. Over the last eight years, america has become the Worlds Largest producer of oil and natural gas, overtaking russia and saudi arabia. And unemployment is now below 5 . Let me try to present the broader trends to you. If youre terrified by the massive rise in terrorism you hear about, here is the chart detailing mass killings and again know sites. We have data on civilians killed since 1 1988. On the decline in homicide in america and in the world. On the victimization of children, a huge drop. On the decline of rape in america. And the net migration from mexico to america since the Great Recession has been zero. Yes, zero. I know that fed on a diet of hype, hysteria and relentless attacks, it dpuoesnt feel this way, but that doesnt make it true, facts are facts. There is no golden age to go back to. What does america want do return to . The 1950s when tax rates were the 1960s when the country was consumed by war and crises. The 1970s with stagflation robbed the american a country of openness, diversity, tolerance and innovation, of course it has problems as do all countries, of course it can be greater still, but not if it succumbs to anger, division, hate and despair. Lets get started. Well, youve heard my take and let us bring in four dished conservative intellectuals to offer their takes, david frohm was a speechwriter, bet stevens is a Pulitzer Prize winner columnist and an economic adviser to the Trump Campaign and a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation. Let me start with you, you are a solid conservative, but you have written critically about trump, what did you see at the convention and did it change your mind . I felt like i was watching a monti python skit. There was more comedy and demagoguery, in which i felt more alienated from the Republican Party than i ever have in my life, most of all by mr. Trumps relentlessly negative appeals to fear and loathing in his address on thursday night. I cannot remember a more consistently hate filled speech of any, never mind the Republican Party, any major president ial address, this sounded like Richard Nixon without the charm and self es facement. Steven, youre advising trump, and i was wondering what you made of trumps relentless attack on fair trade, did that make you rethink your support for donald trump . No, let me make a broader point first, which is i think the reason the trump speech was so effective is that what trump had to do was basically convince the American People that he could be president , that he was president ial. And notwithstanding what brett just said, i thought he came across as a commanding presence, who could play the role of president , just as Ronald Reagan did in 1980, the hollywood actor, he sort of showed the American People, i can do this job, thats one of the reasons that the polls showed that it was overwhelmingly approved of, that speech. You mentioned the one area where i disagree with donald trump, im a free trader, and im uneasy with what hes saying about free trade. But renegotiating some of the trade deals so theyre more on the interests of americans and forcing china to play by the rules and stop cheating and stealing from us, i think thats something as a free market guy i can support. Danichb yel danielle, you sa before the speech, he side some things about nato that worried you, did he come across as a commander in chief for you . Unfortunately, he came across as the commander in chief of russia. In the interview he gave on wednesday to the New York Times was so troubling, for many of us who care about national security, and who care intensely about our allies and the countries that we saved from soviet domination, that we took into our embrace in nato, what donald trump said about not being willing to protect our nato, our treaty allies was just down right frightening. And the fact that someone like paul manafort, his advisor who has been in the pocket of putin and putin cronies could affect the republican platform in that way is just totally troubling to anybody who believes in a democracy. David frumm, what about the people who werent there, ive five former nominees of the Republican Party, in 1993, where robert dole was there, most conservative intellectuals, apparent from this panel still oppose trump, does that matter . Is this the new Republican Party . The governor of ohio was not there. 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Because at the end of the day, you might not like it, the core of trumps message is about stopping trade, stopping immigrati immigration, the things that got the weakest response at the convention was paul ryans message of deregulation, tax cuts, even when donald trump talked about tax cuts, very little applause for that, what you have out there are these voters who are protectionists, global what you saw this week in cleveland, was the passing of the baton from the bush era, to a new trump era, and it will be a new party with a new message. Yes, we are going to require nato countries to pay for their own defense, i have no problem with that, were running trillion dollar deficits, why cant germany and france pay their own. Were going the have the biggest tax cut since Ronald Reagan, were going to repeal obama care and replace it with a choice based health care system, much like what the American Enterprise institute has argued for, were going to deregulate the economy, were going to have a pro regulation policy, those are big ideas that will appeal to middle class working class folks all over the country, and i would simply say to my friend david frumm, ill bet you that youre wrong on this, trump is going to win this election, because hes going to win in pennsylvania and ohio and michigan and iowa and wisconsin, those kind of blue collar industrial states where republicans havent done very well in the last 20 or 30 years. David, are stevens ideas conservative enough for you . I am probably the least conservative member of this panel, i have long urged the Republican Party to make peace on health care, for a more cautious approach on immigration. The problem is that it cant be advocated by a person who is as reckless and divisive as donald trump and who is going to repel so much of the traditional Republican Party, not everyone in america is an unemployed steelworker, this is not a country of catastrophe, this is a country of growth, we all carry computers in our pockets with access to all the worlds knowledge. We dont want to be republican and say everyone who thinks were living in a mad max post apocalyptic health state, how do you build an enterprise with people who dont believe in enterprise . What do you think the democrats thought watching this convention . Trump set up Hillary Clinton favorly. And suggested that somehow this was going to be with a rebirth, let me tell you, in 1980, Ronald Reagan talked about morning in america, he brought a message of hope and optimism, of belief in the American People, a set of principles, American Global leadership, last night was bleak and dark, people analogized it to the dark night in batman, i think it was a perfect analogy. What Hillary Clinton needs to do next week is she needs to be positive. She needs to be hopeful. Im not going to vote for him and im not going to vote for her either. But she needs to looking at their last days of greatness and an america in which he can confidence we can grow again, we can have a baerl economy and people who lost their jobs actually can be offered a lifeline and hope. Brett, would you counsel Hillary Clinton to do that or would you say do the 1964 campaign that is, when Linden Johnson painted goldwater as just too dangerous to become president . I think hillary should be a place for people who are in the center and who are afraid of trump. She should present herself as a dignified thoughtful candidate whos going to turn the Democratic Party into a party of inclusion, and a party that apea apales to the center. Those who think donald trump is an empty vessel in which you will pour the sweet wine of deregulation and the paul ryan agenda, i think youre fooling yourselves in a very dangerous way, donald trump hoas been a protectionist for a long time, hes been an isolationist for a long time. The american first theme in Foreign Policy is not new. And the record damage this will do to every single republican who has aligned himself prominently with trump i think will last for the rest of their careers after november. Steven, i have to give you the last word, briefly, because youre outnumbered three to one. Look, i think that look, the country is in bad shape right now, i just disagree with the rest of my colleagues. I mean we have got police being murdered on the streets of our major cities, we got murder rates in my home city of chicago, that are just atrocious, we have got an economy that is not working creating good jobs, we have got terrorism here and around the world, yeah, it was a bit bleak, but you know what, for a lot of americans, its a bleak situation in this country, what trumps going to do next is say ive got Real Solutions that are going to bring morning to america. Stand by guys, because were going to present that in the weeks ahead. We will all stand by. Fascinating, fascinating conversation. Thank you. When we come back, the fascinating inside story of the russian doping scandal. You dont want to miss this. Mr. Ingalls, hes not studying over here hes streaming my games. You cant get away with that. Whoo oh, dont worry about it. They cant hear me, im just in your head. announcer vo however you use your data, verizons got good news. No surprise overages. 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Together, were building a better california. Now for our what in the world segment. You have heard all about the russian olympic doping scandal and the reaction of various reporting organizations and the governments, but just how did it all happen . It is an amazing story. To explain we have invited a reporter who has broken many aspects of the story for the New York Times. So your source is the director of the russian lab that was in charge of all this, how did you get to him, how did he get to you . Thats a great question. The World Antidoping Agency commissioned an investigation last into allegations of widespread doping in russia. And that investigation wound up accusing the country of government ordered cheating, of a government run doping program focused on track and field athletes and it named the director of russias National Antidoping laboratory as a key figure in that scheme. He did not really cooperation with that inquiry and after he was accused, he fled to the United States to los angeles and months later, this past may, we spoke with him for the first time, he has not spoken since nor had he spoken prior to that. And what he describes is really an extraordinary thorough account. Take us through it. He would get lists around midnight every day, this was in sochi in the laboratory where they were meant to be testing for doping. Exactly, he detailed schemes that dated back years and he said that when russia was hosting the 2014 winter games in sochi, the country saw it as an opportunity, he said to control the lab and the results and to dope throughout competition. And so he said russias top olympians, their medal contenders were on this mixture of steroids throughout sochi, he said he received spreadsheets from the sports ministry, that detailed who was on the doping program, when their competition dates were going to be, informing when exactly he needed to swap out the