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CNNW New Day July 24, 2015

The second one, though she was shot in the leg, she had the presence of mind to pull the fire alarm to save other lives. Actress amy schumer took to twitter to express her sympathy. My heart is broken. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in louisiana. We are joined by jordon. He and his brother were in a nearby theater watching another shooting when it happened. They heard it all and witnessed the chaos after all. I imagine you are in a state of shock this morning, darling, how are you . Im good. Definitely in shock. Didnt get but two hours of sleep last night. All this crazy scene out here. I can imagine. You are fatigued shocked, stunned about what happened. You go to a movie. What time was the showing, around 7 00 . The same time the other showing was . Yes, maam. My movie was at 7 15 and about 7 20 the alarms came on and just before that we heard some loud noises which, later, we found out came from across the hall. Alarms sounded, our theater got evacuated. We came around the front and we hear tons of cop cars. We see ten to 15 cop cars outside already. We see a woman lying about 2025 yards from the theater with a gunshot wound on her leg. After we seen that scene, we were pretty scared. We took cover behind a car and realized there was about 10 to 15 armed officers with assault rifles going in the front door and heading to the right of the theater, which is where we came out from. It was very very surreal. Its all happening so quickly. Lets back up to when the alarms sounded. Sometimes they go off and they are false alarms. How did you know this was the real deal . We had no idea. First thing was the malfunction of the movie. Lights came on we go outside. I thought there must be a fire. We come around the side. Once we saw the woman and all the cop cars we knew it was something more serious than a fire. Was she getting help at the time you saw her . Yes. She was getting help by a man who was helping her with her leg, then seconds, minutes after, an officer came with a tourniquet and helped get her to an ambulance. You talked about the Law Enforcement presence arriving soon after you came out of the theater. Talk about that. That must have been a relief to you. It also must have frightened you. You realized something was going on. Yes, maam. Yeah. Seconds after we rounded the corner of the building cops came in. They had their sirens on and radios on. We could hear them telling each other where to go. About a minute after we were outside, we heard an officer say get to theater 14. We have some men down at theater 14 we need an ambulance. That was really when we were like wow, this is crazy. This is we were all in shock about whats happening out here. From that point, until you understood there was no more threat, how much time did it feel like passed . Definitely the whole night, until we got home. It was a nerveracking feeling out here. At least for me and for my friends. Just knowing that coming to a movie on a thursday night, we never expected that we would see a crime scene and a gunman go in a theater. Very sad night. I want to talk to you about that jordon . How old are you . You look like a young man, maybe a College Student . Yes, maam. Im 19 years old. 19 years old, going to the theater with your brother, in lafayette. You are a local guy, arent you . Yes, maam, local. Live about ten minutes from the theater. Is this something you ever imagined would happen in your town . As an 18 19yearold man, you have seen this happen around the country. Yes, maam, first thing i thought was, when we heard there was a gunman is the batman shooting a couple years ago. I never, ever thought i would be in a Movie Theater that would have a gunman in it. No never thought that this would ever happen. Jordon its almost three years to the week that shooting happened in aurora. What is it going to take for your community to heal do you think . Im sorry . What do you think its going to take for your community to begin the healing process . Um i think that this community will come together. Lafayette is a great place, great people. I think that me, myself will be nervous to come to the theater here for a little bit. But, hopefully, everybody can understand and put that behind them and come out to have a good night and a good time. I hope you and your community begin the healing process and you and your brother can support each other and your family. This is something we wish hadnt happened to you. We are glad you were able to speak to us. Thank you for joining us on new day. Yes, maam, thank you. The looming question is why this happened. That takes us to what do we know about this guy and what happened in that theater from his perspective. Lets get to cnns alexandra field for that part of the story. We know certain things. We dont know his name chris. Police have not released that. He fits into some of the categories we have come to expect. At 58 years old, hes older than the typical shooter you see in these situations. He is a white man. He has some criminal history. No details on what that history entails. He died of a selfinflicted gunshot wound inside that Movie Theater. The question of motive cant be answered. Investigators will be hard at work this morning, talking to friends, family members trying to paint a picture of this man and what could motivate something as senseless as this. We have data to fit this person in categories. What we can see here in data by mother jones is overwhelmingly the shooters are whilt people followed by black and asians. The whites are in line asians higher for latinos. These are the faces of the other mass shooters we have had to talk about over the last few years. All of them men. Overwhelmingly men. This comes near the threeyear anniversary of the aurora shooting. Many people waking up trying to say is this a copy cat attack . It is something investigators have to look at. This is three years after the shooting by james holmes after the screening of the dark knight. This is a face that has been in the news because of the anniversary and this is somebody who was convicted bay jury and is now in the sentencing phase of a trial. Chris, michaela . Some of the heroes we are told about prevented more deaths from happening is truly a bit of a miracle in a dark situation. Thank you for that. President obama is enroute to kenya. He has been briefed on the louisiana shooting. Before the trip he sat down with bbc. He says the failure to tighten gun laws in the u. S. Has been his biggest frustration. Michelle kaczynski is in nairobi ahead of the president. Reporter the timing. Look at the president preparing to come here, the talk was about security concerns here. For the time being, thats been overshadowed by yet another shooting in america of innocent people in a public place. When he did this interview with the bbc, it was unexpected they asked him about the gun issue. Once again, he spoke out strongly about wanting to do more to prevent gun violence. Listen. The one area where i feel that i have been most frustrated and most stymied, it is the fact that the United States of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws. Even in the face of repeated mass killings. And, you know if you look at the number of americans killed since 9 11 by terrorism, its less than 100. If you look at the number that have been killed by gun violence its in the tens of thousands. For us not to be able to resolve that issue has been something that is distressing, but, it is not something that i intend to stop working on in the remaining 18 months. Every time one of these shootings happens, the white house is asked about what the administration is planning in terms of executive actions. They havent said too much about timing or content. Remember in 2013 the president enacted two dozen executive actions on guns. Most of them were about information sharing and some elements of background checks and wanting to do more studies on the issue. Chris . Thank you. The tragedy in lafayette bringing back haunting memories of the shooting in aurora colorado. The jury is weighing the Death Penalty against the killer convicted for shooting 12 people dead during a midnight showing of the dark knight rises. 70 others were injured. Theres going to be a press conference soon. As soon as it happens, we will take you to it. A somer scene in louisiana to pay tribute to a hometown hero. A motorcade escorted skip wells to his home. He was gunned down in chattanooga. Scott walker putting his campaign on hold to attend the funeral for one of the other slain marines, Sergeant Carson holmquist. The New York Times reporting a pair of inspectors general asking the Justice Department to probe whether Sensitive Information was mishandled with the email account Hillary Clinton used during her time as secretary of state. We have the very latest. It has to do with how they changed the wording here right . Thats right. That story has been revised. The times reported the request was made into the inquiry of clintons handling with her private email. As secretary of state, now, the Justice Department was asked to find out if Sensitive Information was mishandled in relation to the email account. The inspectors general for the state department and intelligence agencies made the request to justice to see if the handling of the emails was improper. A spokesman said in a statement, contrary to the initial story, which has been significantly revised, clinton followed appropriate practices in dealing with classified materials. Clinton, exclusively used that email saying it was easier. Those revelations dogged her president ial campaign. She did turn over 50,000 pages of emails, asked for them to be made public. Now, the state department is reviewing them to make sure no Sensitive Information would be released. So far, 4,000 pages have been released. One of the emails was deemed classified after the private account became known. How is this going to affect a president ial run. Thanks so much for that. Stay with us here on cnn for the latest on the breaking news out of lafayette. A gunman kills two people inside a louisiana Movie Theater. We are awaiting a News Conference from local authorities. This is the latest in a string of shootings. The big question what can be done to prevent it from happening again. 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Sure thanks chris, good to be with us. The hearts of all georgians go out to the Lafayette Community particularly the families of those killed and injured. Terrible tragedy. Once again, we are seeing the best of people come out when we are introduced to the worse of people. Calling 911 right away making sure that the help was there in a time of need and, of course it all starts with the worst. There are three components. You have guns you have a culture of violence and you have the continuing expression of mental illness. When you look at these components do you see them all as equal in why we keep having these Mass Shootings . Well im not sure theres a culture of violence in lafayette, louisiana. I have been there many many times. Its a very quaint nice community. Home of the raginge rajin cajins. The facts will be revealing themselves over the next several days but, there is a issue relative to those who shouldnt get their hands on guns getting guns. We have lots of laws on the books to prohibit that. We simply dont do the job we need to do to enforce those laws. Why not that is a point that is often ignored in this debate. You have plenty of laws. Enforcement is weak and enforcement for how to secure your arms is weak. Often, people get guns by getting them from people who dont have them properly secure. Why do you think enforcement is lax . Education is critically important. Education about gun safety. If you are going to have possession of a gun, you need to know that there are trigger locks available to you. You have to buy a trigger lock with a pistol and you need to put that lock on there. But, thats not the issue that we have here. The issue we have here obviously, is an individual who, for whatever reason mental instability, who knows, depression or whatever got their hands on a gun and decided to commit a terrible act that was undoubtedly random from what the facts revealed thus far. How do you control that . You know thats a very very difficult question to answer. Thats true. We have to keep asking it and talking about it. Obviously, im not talking lafayette, louisiana as being a violent place. Im talking a culture of dynamic that embraces harshness. What we are seeing in politics right now. Donald trump popped in the polls. It is not simply a phenomenon. It is not just about his celebrity. He is tapped into a mood of anger and outrage and it is moved him to the top of the polls of your party whachlt is the lesson in it to you . Well i think its obvious that when you have a poll like that and somebody is getting 25 in a 16man field that there are not just republicans angry and upset, there are democrats, too, that said hey, this guy is saying things that i been wanting to say for years and been thinking for years. I think donald trump, who is a smart guy, obviously, is capitalizing on the fact that washington has been sitting on its hands for the last 25 years on any number of issues including the issue of Immigration Reform. His statements were not random statements they were calculated. He came out of the box, everybody knew if he got into the race he would not be a shrinking ballot and he isnt. Hes capitalized on an issue, i. E. Immigration, that really strikes at the heart of a lot of americans, republicans and democrats. Do you like the way hes framed it . Do you like how hes seeking to seemingly be more divisive than bringing people together toward a solution . I would not have said what he said but, hey, this is politics. It is a contact sport. Donald trump know that is well. Even though hes never run for office hes been very engaged in the political scene. I wouldnt have said what he said about my friend john mccain who is a war hero. It generates headlines and it generates the situation in the political race right now where donald trump sucked all the president ial political air out of the room. Every story you hear today has donald trump in it. You dont hear anything about any other candidate. Thats a calculated move on trumps part. Well, what ultimately is the value to trump . Do you think hes got a shot at being the partys candidate . Do you think he becomes something productive or more noise than news . I dont know donald trump well but i know him. I know hes a very smart guy. Hes a guy that has made a contribution to not just the city of new york where he lives, but to the economy of the United States and other parts around the world. Hes a good thinker. Certainly, he has the ability and opportunity to contribute long term to republican conservative politics. I hope he stays engaged. But, whether he gets the nomination we are a year out now from the end of the primary season so there are going to be lots of hills and valleys we get to get to. I think, while trump has gained the headlines over the last several weeks, we are getting close to primary season. Over the next couple weeks, debate season as we go into this august debate mr. Trump and others are going to have to talk about substantive issues. Thats what voters are going to make up their mind about. It will be interesting to watch the debates and see how he and others react to whats happened over the last few weeks. You are suggesting a change in the state of play once the debates start. We will see. Thank you very much former senator. You are always welcome on new day, have a good weekend. You too. We are enjoying the latest developments in louisiana. We are awaiting a live News Conference an update from Law Enforcement on the ground on what happened. Maybe more about the gunman and a motive. 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