Are you a christian . He would ask them . And if youre a christian, stand up. They would stand up and he said, good, because youre a christian, youre going to see god in just about one second and then he shot and killed them. He kept going down the line doing this. Reporter thursday morning, around 10 38 a. M. , 911 dispatch receives the first calls for help. The active shooter, ucc, 1140 college road. Somebody is outside one of the doors, shooting through the door. Reporter the police say he was carrying body armor and ammunition, along with three pistols and one long rifle. He open fire on a classroom, shooting the teacher at pointblank range. It was rapid fire over and over and over again. You could hear the people you could hear them moving and c crying. I said to the teacher, we need to get out of here right now. We heard the second and third gunshots. Reporter within minutes, officers swarmed the campus. Hes in a classroom. Exchanging gunshots with the male. Theyre in snyder hall. Reporter the shooter continued his rampage into the science building, casualties found in at least two different classrooms. I will not name the shooter. I will not give him the credit he probably sought prior to this horrific and cowardly act. Reporter the gunman shot dead at the scene. And the sheriff praising the heroic actions of two officers who arrived here at the scene within minutes of that first 911 call. Keep in mind, this is a normally gunfree zone here at the college. There are no Armed Security guards or armed officers normally here on campus. And so given the amount of ammunition, the number of weapons this shooter had, its likely those responding officers may have prevented this tragedy from becoming even more deadly. Chris . How to stop a shooting once it happens . How to stot them before they start, how to assess people as risk. Hoy to decide who gets weapons . All of these issues present themselves every day. Anna, thank you. Heres what matters most in every one of these situations. Those who were victimized. Right now we know at least seven were wounded at this mass shooting in Umpqua Community college. Those who are still alive and fighting for their lives, lets get to cnns chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta live at Mercy Hospital in roseburg, oregon with more. What are they telling you. Reporter well, with this particular hospital, its about five miles away from the scene. This is a small town, chris, just about 21,000 people live here. Five miles away from the scene. What we know now from talking to people inside the hospital, ten people, ten people who are injured were brought to this hospital after the incident occurred. We know that one of those people died in the emergency room here behind me. Three people were transferred to another hospital and the others were getting operations and treatment here. So it was ten injured, originally, chris, that were brought here. One did not survive after making it to the emergency room. We know that this is a level three trauma center, chris. This is the hospital that is not used to seeing this sort of thing but remarkably, back several years ago, they actually took care of a similar sort of incident. Where 23 people were injured in a mass shooting. So these are seasoned doctors, seasoned professionals in here who tragically have seen this sort of thing before. I can tell you, chris, being here for a little bit now, everybody in this town seemingly has been affected by this. They either knew somebody, theyve been somehow directly impacted by what happened here. Thats really the feel, the vibe that you get when you walk around this town today. Sanjay, ill take it here. Thats the thing, a Small Community like that will be rocked to its core. Well check back with you on the status of those victims that are being treated in the hospital. Meanwhile, federal and local investigators are chasing every lead to learn more about that 26yearold gunman and his motives. Was the mass shooting a possible hate crime . Were warning signed missed . Joi that part of the story. Hes 26 years old, Christopher Harper mercer is his name. He wore, apparently, according to reports, a military style garb almost every day and he had a close relationship with his mother. The New York Times quoting her saying that she had to insulate her son from various things he found annoying, including bugs and animals and children. What we also know about him is that his father is in Southern California, his father actually spoke and confirmed the identity of his son. Any questions right now . Obviously its been a devastating day, devastating for me and my family. All i ask is, i know you are here to do your job, all i ask is please respect our privacy. So far youve done that. Any surprise at all . Shocked. Shocked is all i can say. The father lives in Southern California. The mother, it appears, had moved to oregon. What we do know is very little is known about this individual. But investigators telling us that when he was shot, he was carrying a long gun, three handguns which he was able to reload. He was also in possession of body armor and he had a lot of ammunition. Police now crediting other officers for responding so quickly that they were, in their words, able to neutralize the gunman. He did appear to be armed for a long fight. Last thing, he was also on social media but he doesnt have a very prolific profile as others weve investigated normally do. He was on a site, he said ive noticed so many people like this gunman in virginia who killed the two reporters, are all alone and unknown. Yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who is known by no one is now known by everyone, his face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet ab all in the course of one da i. Seems the more people you kill, the more youre in the limelight. Investigators are looking at the motive to understand what was going on in his head. There are eyewitnesses who are telling investigators that he did ask people their religions. So theyre looking as to why that may have played a role. Chris, alisyn, michaela. Reading that blog post, it just spells out part of his motive that he liked the limelight. That that other murderer from roanoke had received. We will explore that on the program. Meanwhile, president obama outrage by yet another mass shooting. The president admonishing the country for not fighting gun violence, saying somehow these massacres have become routine in america. But we are not the only country on earth that has people with Mental Illnesses. Or want to do harm to other people. We are the only advance country on earth who sees these kind of Mass Shootings every few months. Somehow this has become routine. The reporting is routine. My response here at this podium ends up being routine. The conversation in the aftermath of it, weve become numb to this. We talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. It cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. And whats become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense to Gun Legislation. Right now, i can imagine the press releases being cranked out. We need more guns, theyll argue. Fewer gun safety laws. Does anybody really believe that . There are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. They know thats not true. We know because of the polling that says the majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws, including the majority of responsible lawabiding gun owners. There is a gun for roughly every man, woman and child in america. So haw can you, with a straight face, make the argument that more guns will make us safer . We know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. So the notion that gun lows dont work or just will make it harder for lawabiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns, its not borne out by the evidence. We know that other countries in response to one mass shooting have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate Mass Shootings. Guns are certainly always an issue in these shootings but theyre just one issue. Theres a combination of things that goes into almost every one of these as we know, all too well. Lets bring back dr. Sanjay gupta and lets bring in former atf executive matthew horris. I want to unpack the boxes we need to check when assessing these situations. Matthew, let me start with you. The first thing well hear is, if they had had Armed Security, allowed kids to carry weapons, teachers, authorized personnel, this guy wouldnt have had the ability to inflict this kind of damage. What is your take . Well, my take is every time we have one of these incidents, that question comes up. When you get right down to the core, the people who are responsible for schoolings always say we dont want more guns on campuses. We dont want more guns at elementary schools, middle schools or high schools. The dialogue discontinues and the narrative stays the same. When having weapononweapon is an advantage, would security in the school make a difference . What can you speak to on that . Well, i can say several things. Number one, the president makes a very good point. In no other situation in society would we allow this to happen without bringing the people to the table to come up with a coherent solution. We havent done that. Number two, no matter what side of the fence you sit on, no one can argue the facts. Almost every week since sandy hook theres been another School Shooting in almost every state of the United States with the exception of five. Too much, too little, too late, it continues to happen. Chris, you and i are having this discussion far too many times every two weeks. Sanjay, were going to get the stats of different shootings and things. Well put them up there for the audience to see. Mental health winds up rearing its head in Mass Shootings. Not in all gun violence. There are plenty of reasons people can just be bad. When you find someone who is said to be suffering from Mental Health issues, how big a gap is there in the ability to get someone help if they dont want it . Tremendous gap, chris. Really at all levels, from the time that someone is actually able to be recognized as having some sort of Mental Illness to having a formal diagnosis to get outpatient treatment and most difficult of all, to get inpatient treatment. It has gotten challenging, more so. Its going in the wrong direction, really in terms of actually getting these people help. Youre right, though, chris. The tendency always seems to be to talk about Mental Illness in the wake of one of these tragedies. People with Mental Illness are more likely to be victims of Violent Crime as opposed to perpetrators of them. But it does come up. I think you have the situation where because the system is so broken, family members, friends, people who might otherwise help refer somebody, get somebody help, it doesnt even happen. That process doesnt even start. Theres nowhere to go with it, chris. Two aspects i want your opinion on, sanjay. One, we have representative tim murphy from pennsylvania coming on. Hes been bush pushi pushing little in the house. To let family members know what doctors say and, two, to help coerce treatment at least for a limbed time. Do you think that would be helpful . I do. I think ultimately family members and Close Friends as well, family members certainly are often the front line here. This is one of those things where it can be difficult to detect. Certainly early on. So i think being able to have family members empowered, enabled in this way and to be part of that process is important. You know what the other side is. Coerced is a strong word. I used that word. Hipaa laws saw you cant disclose information. If i substituted the word diabetes or something else, instead of schizophrenia or some other Mental Illness we wouldnt be having this discussion at all. Its sort of one of these selffulfilling things, chris, because it becomes so stigmatized that people dont even want to talk about it. They dont want to admit potentially theyre getting treatment for this sort of thing. It becomes a real challenge. We talked about parody with regard to Mental Illness for a long time. Parody means that it gets treated the same, not just financially but in terms of erasing that stigma. We are nowhere close to that right now. So because of that, to your point, chris, i think its difficult to coerce people into this. Because they people are legitimately and understandably worried about what the ramifications may be if their treatment, their diagnosis becomes public. Matthew horace, right now theres no law on the books that would stop someone who doesnt have a record of being adjudicated mentally ill or somehow incarcerated from being stopped by a background check. What law could be designed that would have stopped someone like this from getting a gun. If you dont have a criminal record, you havent been adjudicated mentally ill, how would you flag someone like this . Thats a tough call, chris. You have the people that have been diagnosed, the people who have been adjudicated. There are hundreds of thousands of people that havent gotten to that stage yet that are powder kegs waiting to explode. We see this come up time and time again. Thats the challenge here, chris. Is the answer more guns or less guns . The answer is less guns in the hands of people who shouldnt have them. That clearly is the answer. How do we do that, right . Thats the plague. Thats the plague. Matthew horace, i know we have the conversation too often but its the only way to get to a conclusion. Dr. Sanjay gupta, well check back with you quickly as well. Mick . More on the breaking coverage of shooting in oregon ahead. We are also keeping a keen eye on powerful hurricane joaquin. The category 4 storm is battering the bahamas with 130 mileanhour winds and heavy rain. It is barreling now toward the east coast of the United States. We are following joaquins every move with cnn meteorologist chad myers at cnn center in atlanta. Of course, this is the question, is it headed towards the east coast . Is it going to veer east . What do we know at this hour . The cone from the National Hurricane center says this does not touch america. The center of the eye does not touch america. That does not mean that there wont be influns on america because there will be significant flooding from the tropical moisture just in the nature of the storm itself. 130 Miles Per Hour per hour, wind gusts of 160. This has been battering the bahamas for 48 hours. A major hurricane, category 4, down in the bahamas now. It is going to turn to the north, try to turn back to the left a little bit. I dont believe its going to get there. There are still models out there that say it may get there. Im not telling you that the chance of landfall is zero. It is not zero. It may be five or ten. Even the Hurricane Center itself will tell you the cone only is supposed to catch hurricanes in that cone 65 to 70 of the time. There could be a left liar or lier. Its all of the moisture coming up from the tropics into the carolinas, georgia, virginia, maybe even d. C. Could you imagine d. C. With 5 inches of rain in 24 hours . That is possible with any one of these cells because theres so much moisture. You walk outside, it is just muggy. Look at this map right here, clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. The big ingredient is the tropical moisture heading into the southeast. Finish the line, alisyn. Here i am stuck in the middle again. With you. With you. Cheryl crowe. 11 People Killed including 6 u. S. Service members and 5 civilian contractors when their military transport plane crashed at jalalabad airport. While the taliban claimed responsibility on twitter, the u. S. Military denies hostile fire was involved. They are continuing to investigate the cause of the crash and we, of course, will follow all of those developments. House speaker hopeful Kevin Mccarthy did what many expected him to do. He is back pedaling on his controversial comments crediting the Benghazi Committee for Hillary Clintons sinking poll numbers. He claimed to have unintentionally misstated his position, saying he did not mean the investigation was political. Instead, he said it was about finding the truth for the families of the four americans killed in the benghazi attacks. However, that is not what he said. More clarification, this time from the vatican, clarifying this morning, explaining the circumstances behind the popes meeting with kentucky Clerk Kim Davis during his u. S. Visit. A deputy vatican Spokesman Says she was one of several people, several dozen people in fact that pope francis met with briefly at the vatican brs in washingt embassy in washington. 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