270 Dishonest Press. Reporter returning to the stage where he appears most comfortable in delivering an unmistakable message. The candidate who won a stunning victory three weeks ago is here to stay. I love this stuff. Should i go on with this just a little bit longer . Reporter the president elect boasting about breaking Hillary Clintons blue wall. We didnt break it, we shattered that sucker. That poor wall is busted up. Reporter taking a jab at his former opponent while firing up the crowd with some red meat. We did have a lot of fun fighting hillary, didnt we . Reporter but also calling for unity of the deeply divided nation after a contentious election. We condemned bigotry and prejudice in all of its forms. We denounce all of the hatred. And we forcefully reject the language of exclusion and separation. Were going to come together. We have no choice. We have to and its better. Reporter trump stressing the populous message that won him the white house. From now on its going to be america first. Okay. Reporter while doubling down on key Campaign Promises. We are repealing and replacing obama care. We will finally end illegal immigration. Have to. We will construct a great wall at the border. Reporter and veering off script to break some big news about his own cabinet. I want to save the suspense for next week. And dont let it outside of this room. Reporter trump announcing that he is selected retired marine general james mattis as his secretary of defense. Mad dog mattis. They say hes the closest thing to general George Patton that we have. Reporter while defending the other cabinet picks he made so far. He knows how to make money. Ive been honest. I said i am going to be putting on the greatest killers youve ever seen. Reporter the raucous rally coming on the heels of trumps victory lap at the carrier plant in indiana. Companies are not going to leave the United States any more without consequences. Not going to happen. Reporter the president elect touting the deal. Spear headed by his running mate, Current Governor of indiana, to keep nearly 1,000 jobs in the state. Carrier chose to stay in indiana because america chose to make donald trump the next president of the United States. Reporter and, alisyn, an interesting wrinkle to keep an eye on. On that defense secretary nomination. James mattis has only been retired since 2013. He needs to be retired for more than seven years to be eligible for the position. I talked to trump transition officials and they dont believe it is going to be a problem getting congressional officials to secure a waiver for him to be eligible for the spot. Senator john mccain, Matt Thornberry both said theyre ready to get to work. But keep an eye on democrats. Kristen jillibrand came out she was opposed to granting that waiver. It is a fundamental principle of american democracy to keep civilian control of the democracy. We dont expect major problems but one key voice opposed to that process. Phil, thanks for that reporting. Lets discuss all of this including last nights rally. We had politics editor for theroot. Com Jason Johnson and National Political reporter for New York Times alex burns and cnn Political Correspondent dana bash. Great to see all of you. Alex, help us understand why this sevenyear transition period from being in the military to serving in the cabinet was important, is important . Well, historically, its seen as one of the bull works and separation of power is between control of the military and control of civilian government. That the principle in the United States is that you have people who are not in uniform commanding people who are in uniform. The notion that you have donald trump with no military experience of his own referring to a recently retired member of the military, weve never really seen Something Like that before. Having said that, i think youre probably not going to hear all that much criticism from the hill because concerned about trumps inexperience are going to be reassured by the election of mattis. When they created the Defense Department after world war ii, they wrote it into law. Lawmakers thought it was so important and then they change it to seven years. But it is something that is on paper, but im not sure the paper is going to matter, dana, because people in congress, by and large, seem to like general mattis. It is a principle that senator gillibrand said. But every situation is different. And to your point, donald trump is very inexperienced on the world stage. Not just that, you also have a lot of democrats and, frankly, maybe more importantly republicans, hawks like john mccain who really like mattis who see mattis positions on some things, like, for example, russia. Hes very critical of russia. Of the russian leader, vladimir putin, who donald trump has not been critical of. So the people on capitol hill who are concerned about donald trump are hoping that mattis can steer him in the more critical direction of russia. And then just take water boarding, for example. I mean, that is a perfect example of during the Campaign Donald trump said over and over again that he wants to reinstate enhanced interrogation, water boarding. Where is mattis . Hes against it. Not only is he gebs it donald trump told New York Times that he is against it made trump rethink it. To somebody like john mccain who is the chair of the committee and longtime opponent of that kind of stuff. Thats one of the reasons why hes going to push so hard. President elect trump has been quite direct about how much he likes generals. He has a lot of respect for them. Yes, he does. He likes putting them in his cabinet. Do you think if this mattis selection has a domino effect on whether general petraeus can be secretary of state . He is a more complicated issue because of his background and putting someone in a position who actually was convicted of releasing information and he got involved in an affair with his biograp r biographer. Petraeus may turn into a mess. Mattis is a different situation. I like most american patriots are concerned about the idea of someone who was just this recently in the military being secretary of defense. Why . What is your fear . Its just like lobbyists. When you had president s try to pass laws. Once you leave congress you cant come in and lobby 15 minutes later. I think its fine for him to have some time as a civilian and be a civilian leader before he comes back and hes in charge in the military. Thats the only reason why. We have lots of great generals. Thats why they wrote into law. When youre talking about civilian control and the framers of the constitution, the main thing they wrote is that congress should be the ones to declare war, which we have seem to given up on a long time ago. Civilian control was most important to us, we would have done things differently over the last 50 years. Its complexion, as it were. In its makeup. Can we put that up on the board there. Were not in it, they are. First of all, donald trump is well on track. He is filling this cabinet at an equal or rapid pace than other president elects have in the past. But as you look at that right now. It is predominantly a white, male cabinet with some women there, dana. You know what can we expect as he fills up the rest of those blank spaces . We dont know. The key question, of course, is going to be secretary of state. We talked about general petraeus. I agree with you wholeheartedly just in talking to people on capitol hill, especially and even republicans, its going to be very hard for them, even in the world of hypocrisy that is washington, d. C. , for them to say, oh, you know, lets put the guy in charge of the state department after we spent in the year and a half ripping on the former secretary of state. Does anyone come up with a compromise . Like bob corker. Donald trump doesnt seem like the compromise kind of president. I think if it is bob corker, to me, obviously, if its mitt romney, that is the ultimate example of donald trump deciding that hes going to be a statesman and not care so much about what his own base is telling him, which is you cant put this guy in there. But bob corker would be sort of the second example of that. That she the safe choice. Hes a member of the senate. Theres no question he will be confirmed easily, unless something comes out from his past that we dont know about. But hes also not somebody who seems to be a donald trump type. Theyre just very different personalities and my understanding is that that has been very clear in the meetings that they have had privately. Lets talk about what we saw last night. Donald trump was out on the stump. He was giving sort of one of his quintessential rallies. What did you hear there, alex . Alisyn, i think we heard this is the guy were going to be seeing for the next four years. There are a number of checkpoints during the campaign when trump clinched the republican nomination after the convention and during the debates when you would hear people in his own party say youre about to see a pivot. A more sober donald trump. Hes behaving the same way that he was a year ago with a couple additional notes. At least the sort of formal denu denud denunciation of bigotry. If were expecting him to stop being an improviser and an over the top showman who makes it up as he goes, i think last night was a big reality check. Panel, stick around. We have many more questions for you. The showman and dealmaker was on full display and delivered on a Campaign Promise to keep jobs, about 1,000 of them, in the United States. And he rallied against his former rival and the media. I think he thinks the media is his former and current rival. That was redundant. So, what can we expect after january 0t20th . Well discuss that next. Why are you checking your credit score . I think we can finally get a bigger place. Hey hey ahhhh. Charades . Yeah, let me check my score too. Try credit karma. Its free. Check out credit karma today. Credit karma. Give yourself some credit. That person is doing the map and that person was saying for months that theres no way that donald trump can break the blue wall, right . We didnt break it, we shattered that sucker. The full donald trump on display last night in cincinnati. Recounting in great detail exactly how he won the election and how many people were wrong about it along the way. Lets bring back our panel alex burns, dana bash. Dana, this was fascinating to see. As alex was saying before the break, what president elect trump would look like on the stump and he looked like, frankly, candidate trump. A lot of people wonder if winning for him is something he likes to talk about and a strategy for him is that winning is everything. Winning is everything, no question. And, look, during the entire campaign one of the reasons why donald trump sort of captured attention is not just because of his celebrity, but because we have never seen anything like it. And theres no reason to think that is going to change once he gets to the white house. For lots of reasons. First of all, hes 70yearold guy who has din all right so why would he change . And this is the guy the American People elected. Hes the one that they wanted to be in there and they didnt want the same old kind of buttoned p up, you know, talking points kind of person. They wanted this. And, you know what, the one thing that i was noting and watching him is that he was having fun. You know, some of the things that he said were things that im sure his advisors did not want him to say. You could see when it was teleprompter trump and then he went into his own world and then back to teleprompter trump. You said he was having fun and he talked about that and, in fact, he talked about Hillary Clinton. Im interested to hear if you think this is one he should avoid. Watch this. Although we did have a lot of fun fighting hillary, didnt we . Right. So, basically, the way he did on the campaign trail and they started chanting lock her up, lock her up and then he gave sort of a fist raise. I mean, is that but is that something that his advisors are like, okay, enough of that. Lets go back to that trump . As in most things related to trump. A lot of people around him feel the there are people who say i wish he would reign it in a little bit. And, look, i think if you listen to his words last night and just sort of look at his overall demeanor, you would think this is a guy who won the election by ten points and he definitely did not. And the evidence that we saw during the campaign is that, actually, even many voters who ultimately cast their ballots for him recoil from some of that spectacle, right . So, it will be really interesting to see once he actually takes office theres any sense of having to limit himself, having to more occupy the traditional role of the presidency. So far, we certainly havent seen it. But this is a guy who is goes into offices and the most unpopular incoming president we ever had. The need to sort of change perceptions instead of reinforce them is really imperative. Look, the arena wasnt full and there could be reasons. It could have been traffic. Its harder to fill an arena. They said their crowds werent huge. Many thousands of people there, but it wasnt a full arena. Part of the reason there was traffic because there was secret service because he is the president elect. Whats going to happen, when you are president you need deliveerables and you need to prove things to people. He has a deliveerable. But 1,000 people who have jobs that wouldnt have them otherwise. How much more does he need to deliver . Exactly for whom . Is it his base or everyone . John, this is the scariest part. It doesnt matter. Weve seen this already with donald trump. He wasnt lying earlier this year when he said i could shoot somebody on fifth avenue. He said im not going tapursue charges against Hillary Clinton. He already said im not going to do the wall. I will keep some parts of obama care. It doesnt matter. The people who will support him will like him regardless of what he does. What concerns me as an american citizen, if he gets the infrastructure plan done, thats great. Overall i have this feeling he will say one thing in front of one group of people and one thing in front of another group of people and hes rarely held accountable. That came up not just in cincinnati but at harvard. Every four years a remarkable meeting where all these Campaign People get together and they have what is supposed to be very cordial meeting where everybody talks about what went right and what went wrong. It wasnt cordial this time and you had the Campaign Staff still going after each other in a very, very bitter way. I want to play an exchange to you and the voices youre going to hear are those of jennifer palmi palmiri. If providing a platform for White Supremacists makes me a brilliant strattechtitian i am proud to have lost. Do you think i ran a campaign where White Supremacists had a platform . Do you think you could have had a decent message for the White Working Class voters . Dana bash. That went well. Look, youre right. We know these people. We have known them covering this campaign and also working on other campaigns and this was, obviously, one of the most, if not the most raw, intense experiences for them. But, youre right. This is usually the forum where everybody can take a breath. The side that lost generally talks about the things that they realize they did wrong. The side that won generally doesnt dance in the end zone. And neither of those things happened. If you think that White Supremacists were give an platform, youre not going to get over that. Time is not going to heal that feeling. Thats not just going to go away. Heres the thing, alisyn, she does not just go away. Ive been in breitbart. A home and a place for not just nationale anational. Heres whats key and why i was concerned about putting steve bannon in there. More americans domestically have been killed by White Supremacists since 9 11 than jihadis. These are terrorists. They have been given a home the website of the Senior Adviser of the United States. That is a legitimate concern for people to have. Look, Hillary Clinton lost. Theyll say, but theyll say, look, bannon himself, no white supremacist comment that contributed directly to bannon. We have to get that out there. Kellyanne conway made the point that that may miss the larger message that donald trump had. Were going to have a chance to talk about that coming up. Panel, thank you very much for your thoughts. Coming up on new day, we asked a panel of Trump Supporters about his possible conflicts of interest. How do they feel about those . Their answers, next. The first survivor of alzheimers disease is out there. And the Alzheimers Association is going to make it happen. But we wont get there without you. Visit alz. 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