Lets begin with will ripley live in tokyo. You just return from your 14th trip to north korea with all of this going on. Reporter john the impression i got from the north koreans this is not a country that is backing down. This is not a country that is afraid but it is defiant and furious with the United States and ready to back up their fiery rhetoric with action and there are indications according to south korean lawmakers and intelligence officials north korea is moving an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile to a location along the korean coast, with a trajectory over japan like last week or fire a missile in a more southerly protra jectry targeting the Pacific Ocean including potentially the u. S. Territory of guam, home to 160,000 american citizens, Andersen Air Force base, naval base, guam. North korea said theyd conduct a missile test near guam, not threatening to attack guam but extremely unsettling and provocative for the u. S. The threat in north korean state media talks about the nuclear test over the weekend their most powerful test to date t says the Great Success of the h bomb test which stunned the world reflects the faith and will of the dprk and people to blow up the u. S. Mainland and annihilate the wolfish u. S. Imperialists running amuck to cut off the lifeline of the dprk. Fiery rhetoric weve heard before from north korea but never before north korea with a weapon like this. Here in japan scientists are saying they believe this bomb that blew up over the weekend is the strength of the bombs dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki combined, all of this, john, as russian president Vladimir Putin warns of an impending global catastrophe with many, many victims if theres not a shift in strategy by the United States. Will ripley in tokyo, thanks a lot. South korea by the way conducting a second day of live fire drills at sea, vowing to destroy and bury the north if provoked but there are a growing concern about the strained relations between President Trump and south koreas leader. Paula hancocks live in seoul for us this morning with that. Paula . Reporter hello john. This was the second live fire drill in two days. South korea is making a point here. This one was at sea, it was a naval live fire drill. There was a 2500ton frigot, patrol boats, guided missile ships. It was a large and intensive live fire drill. Theyre giving us images of course they want north korea to see exactly what they have done and the quote that they came up within the statement is interesting, wherever it is, on our underwater if north korea provokes we will immediately destroy them and bury them at sea. Now that is the kind of phrase that north korea could be proud of, but this is coming from south korea now. We heard on monday as well a statement from the Defense Ministry saying that their live fire drills are showing a willingness to be able to destroy the enemys leadership, so some very strong words and actions coming from the south korean side at this point. Finally we know that the u. S. President did pick up the phone and speak to south korean president moon jaein. There was concern that hadnt happened since the nuclear test, and they both agreed that they will do everything in their power to stop north korea. Alisyn . Paw larula thank you for tha reporting. U. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Saying enough is enough telling the u. N. Security council gym jongun is begging for war. What can the International Community do to stop the threat . Barbara starr is live at the pentagon, what is the latest there . Good morning, alisyn. Nikki haley very much pressing the case at the United Nations that the time has come for being as tough as possible on diplomatic action on sanctions. But then Nicky Hakki Haley went with a fairly dire warning. His abusive use of missiles and his Nuclear Threats show that he is begging to are war. War is never something the United States wants. We dont want it now, but our countrys patience is not unlimited. President trump largely staying publicly quiet on this, tweeting after his phone call the guidance with german leader Angela Merkel all options remain on the table. The president later today is likely to see north korea come up again and again. He will have an intelligence briefing. He will meet with his National Security advisers later in the day with his economic advisers in another phone call, this time with the australian leader also scheduled. Here at the pentagon watching to see if the u. S. Decides to deploy any additional military assets to the region for a show of force, but so far, no word yet. Alisyn . John . Barbara, thank you very much for the update from there. Joining us now to discuss all of this, we have cnn military and diplomatic analyst retired rear admiral john kirby and cnn political and National Security analyst and National Security correspondent for the New York Times david sanger. David, we want to start with you and you have some new reporting obviously emergency meeting of the u. N. Security council, they were discussing where to up the antewith sanctions, including fuel sanctions. What have you learned . The next u. S. Move on sanctions, and probably the last move on sanctions is to try to cut off all of north koreas fuel, heating oil, and so forth. Now, north korea gets about 95 to 100 of its fuel from china, so if you dont get the chinese cooperation with this, President Trump would have basically two options. One is begin to do sanctions on chinese institutions, banks and so forth, that would lead to a big breach with one of our biggest trading partners, and would obviously cause a lot of economic pain here as well. The second option would be to try to figure out a way to turn off north koreas oil inside north korea, and that would take sabotage, cyber, some combination of events like that. We havent heard any discussion yet of how they would go do that, but certainly its fascinating that theyre using a technique that the United States last used against japan in 1941, when it cut off most of japans oil imports. David, before we move on past this subject, you say these are all possibilities and being discussed but seems pretty farfetched you could get china to agree to stop selling any and all oil to north korea, seems more farfetched that the u. S. Would engage in some military options to sabotage the fuel source there. Well, on the first point, john, i think pressing the chinese on this makes the point of how serious the u. S. Is, that all trade with north korea has to stop under these conditions. I agree with you, the chinese have never shown a willingness to do something that could lead to the collapse of the regime, and this would be one of those. On the fuel side, inside north korea, it raises a big issue, because of course the United States has been trying to set some standards so that nobody ever uses cyber or other means to try to turn off Energy Supplies here, so doing it inside north korea would be extremely difficult, i agree. John kirby, what do you think of those options . I agree with david. The sabotage aspect is certainly something that i think would have to be on the table but it would be very, very difficult. This is a closed society. Eight not open to the rest of the world, and not that its impossible to do those kinds of things but very difficult and of course theres precedent setting there as well. On the oil thing with china, you have to also remember that the southern provinces in china that are all along that border with north korea, their economies are very much dependent on trade with the north and some of that comes from oil as well, so china would also be willing, have to be willing to take a major hit locally in their own southern economy, and they have i. T. Erto be hitherto been unwilling to do it. Frankly what needs to happen is largely speaking the Administration Needs to sit down with beijing behind closed doors and try to work some of this out in the context of larger bilateral issues. China is not going to change their calculus with respect to north korea being ail buffer state unless we incentivize them to do exactly that, realize its in their National Security interests, the chinese National Security interests for something to be done about the norths program. We keep on saying something to be done about the norths program though, admiral, north korea has Nuclear Weapons now, and just tested its most power of nuclear device. They may be getting to launch another Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. They have it. Kim jongun is achieving what he set out to achieve so what is the goal then for the u. S. , admiral . I absolutely agree, john. I think general hayden said this the other day, except they are a Nuclear Armed state and give them that credit and then get them to the negotiating table at some point but youre not going to get them to the table unless china is on board and russia, too, but mostly china. They have no incentive right now to talk because as you rightly point out they have advanced this program now faster than anybody thought they could and they are moving inexorablely toward nuclear capability. Learn to accept that and go from there at the table and try to regulate that, put some bounds around that, try to contain that and maybe over time diminish it. I dont see any chance of sort of stopping it in its tracks now. David, how about the relationship between the u. S. And south korea . Obviously friends and allies for decades, now where are we . Were in a pretty frac, point here, alisyn, because the president s determination to move ahead with trying to pull out of the trade agreement with south korea, which was passed in part to help bolster the security relationship is really eroding the degree of trust, and of course the president said during the campaign and interviews with me and with others that he would be willing to pull american troops out of south korea if they werent contributing more economically. He is to the defense effort. He has not said that since hes become president. But these two things have sowed some distrust. I wanted to go back to johns very important point out there about coming to an acceptance of the north Korean Nuclear program. There are many people who think we need to go do that. That has been north koreas goal all along, to basically become what pakistan has become, a country that we basically accept now, has Nuclear Weapons outside of the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty and when i asked people in the administration, are you willing to make that move, just as we would ask this question during the obama administration, the answer has unanimously been no, that the goal is denuclearization of the korean peninsula. Farfetched as this may seem at this point, so its interesting the administration is not backing off on that issue. Admiral, you discussed with me last night room to maneuver, space to maneuver here both in military terms and diplomatic terms. Right. Your fear that space on both sides may be this vinking. Every time the president says all options orren the table hes really saying military options are what im thinking about and whenever he does that, whenever the rhetoric ratchets up like we saw with the begging for war comment with nikki haley he closes down his space to achieve a diplomatic outcome and the same has happened hes pushing you saw from lets reporting a few minutes ago pushing pyongyang into ever increasingly smaller space in terms of decision and maneuver. Again i dont think they have an incentive right now to negotiate but i think theres still room for diplomacy. I want to piggyback on david. Denuclearization of the peninsula is the appropriate outcome over time. That horse has left the barn right now, and the only way to get it back in the barn is to i think start from acceptance that they have this capability, and then try over time and it could take years to negotiate it down to regulate it, and to eliminate it, if at all. But i just dont, i think starting with well, theyre never, were never going to accept them having this capability, i just think that thats polyannish at this point. Gentlemen, thank you for the expertise and sharing your reporting with us, david and john kirby, thank you. Meanwhile the Trump Administration is expected to make it official today ending protections for d. R. E. A. M. Ers from being deported. However, the president wants congress to come up with a legislative solution over the next six months. One congressman is determined to keep d. R. E. A. M. Ers here, and he joins us next. Iness. And with the 25 cent event, Office Depot Officemax takes care of mom now, all this just 25 cents each taking care of business about to see progressives new home quote explorer. Where you can compare multiple quote options online and choose whats right for you. Woah. Flo and jamie here to see hqx. Flo and jamie request entry. Slovakia. Triceratops. Tapioca. Racquetball. Staccato. 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Reporter john, the president seemingly has struggled with this issue for months, and this is it apparently. Decision day. The attorney general expected to make the announcement at a briefing later today. Though there is still a sense of drama surrounding this, even thousand, because sources have told cnn the president could still even in this late in the process change his mind. President trump taking to twitter monday night touting a big week ahead. Gross understatement considering the wide range of issues on the president s plate, starting with todays announcement on the fate of socalled d. R. E. A. M. Ers. The president is expected to end the Obama Era Program created through executive order, protecting some 800,000 young undocumented immigrants from being deported. D. R. E. A. M. Ers here to say are this possibility drawing backlash from both sides of the aisle. What i hope the president says tomorrow is that he supports the policy of the daca program and wants congress to pass it into law. To end the daca program is one of the most cruel and ugly decisions ever made in the modern history of this country by a president. Reporter but the president promised during the campaign that he would end protections for d. R. E. A. M. Ers, attorneys general from ten states threatened to sue if trump does not announce repeal of the policy by today. Sources tell cnn the president will punt the fate of d. R. E. A. M. Ers to congress, delaying the enforcement for six months, so that lawmakers can pass legislation to address the status of those affected. Theres a lot of support for programs like this. Im not as pessimistic as some people. I think we can get this done in the next six months. The New York Times is reporting President Trump asked aides for a way out, comparing trumps approach on d. R. E. A. M. Ers to president obamas first promise as president to close guantanamo bay, which he was not able to accomplish. Congress returns today to a daunting todo list with a limited time frame to get anything done. The most challenging tasks include passing a spending bill with or without money for a border wall, republicans looking for a complete overhaul of the tax code, the first in three decades, emergency funding for victims of hurricane harvey, a bill to raise the debt ceiling is expected, and possibly another try at repealing obamacare. And there is not a lot of time to get that spending bill to keep the government from shutting down, only 12 legislative days before september 30th. We do expect to see the president this afternoon around 4 00 eastern time meeting with key members of congress as well as Top Administration officials to talk about taxes. Alisyn . Yes, the clock is ticking, joe. Youre right. Thank you very much for the update from the white house. Joining us now is democratic congressman Henry Cuellar of it extext, cochairs the blue dog coalition. Congressman thank you for being here. Thank you so much. From where you sit this morning knowing the challenges of Immigration Reform and the tight deadline, what do you think is going to happen to these 300 to these 800,000 d. R. E. A. M. Ers . First of all, i think your story said it well. The to do list for congress is tremendous. Owe only have a few days to get this done, a lot before september 30th and remember at the end of september 30th, the budget rules special budget rules for trying to repeal the obamacare also leaves so a lot of th