Weekend with Victor Blackwell and christi paul. Good sunday morning to you. President Trumps White House counsel is telling his story to the mueller team. The New York Times report says that don mcgahn has been cooperating are the Mueller Investigation and participating in several interviews totaling 30 hours over the last nine months. President trump says he, quote, allowed mcgahn to fully cooperate are the special counsel. The times reported that mcgahn was worried he might be President Trumps fallguy, so to speak, for any potentially illegal incidents or obstruction. Cnn White House ReporterSarah Westwood is live from new jersey where the president is spending the weekend. What are we learning further this morning . Reporter President Trump is speaking up to downplay the significance of the New York Times white house that don mcgahn on the obstruction of justice portion of his inquiry. The times is reporting that mcgahn spent 30 hours with investigators and provided potentially damaging information about the ways trump responded in private to developments in the russia probe. Rudy giuliani, the president s personal attorney, is arguing that mcgahn served as a strong witness for the president. Here is what he had to say about it last night. The reality is that the president encouraged all of the people who testified to tell the truth, to take as long as they needed to do that, and as long as they did, they had no they will have possess no problem with the president or us and we have no reason to believe that don mcgahn didnt do that. Its john dowd who is the president s lawyer at the time today said loudly and clearly. Right. Don mcgahn was the strongest witness for the president. Meaning he completely gave testimony that said that the president didnt do anything wrong, which is the president couldnt do. He didnt do anything wrong. Reporter now mcgahns attorney told our colleague ryan nobles that mcgahn cooperated with the special counsel because President Trump declined to have executive privilege over mcgahns testimony. The relationship between trump and his white House Counsel has at times than contentious but the white house is seekingtodownplay and dismiss the fact that this is causing any strain between trump and mcgahn. Sarah westwood, thank you so much for the update. Joining me is ross garver, cnn legal annist and errol louis who is a analyst for spectrum news. Don mcgahn and his attorney, questioned, lets say, the wisdom of the white house of allowing don mcgahn to speak, thinking they should have fought it out in court. What do you make of this decision . Look. It is extraordinary and very, very unusual. Normally, the relationship between anybody and their lawyer is sacrosanct and its controversy and that generally also applies to Public Officials as well, although there is some question about whether it applies in the in the grand jury context. But to allow an attorney to cooperate with federal investigators, especially the beginning of an investigation, is really extraordinary and it seems to have been motivated by the president and his legal teams desire to try to get this thing, this investigation completed, you know, very quickly, right away. And so it was this extraordinary action in allowing the white House Counsel to be interviewed by the government. Errol, listen to more from Rudy Giuliani here. Now, the president wants to testify. The president wants to be open and transparent. Otherwise, he wouldnt have encouraged 30 witnesses, including mcgahn to testify and he wouldnt have turned over 1. 4 million documents. He wouldnt have not exerted executive privilege as he did. If he didnt believe that he didnt do anything wrong but he is not going to be trapped into perjury. We are not going to allow it to happen where he tells the truth, some other guy is lying, and they are going to believe like comey the guy who is lying. Errol, lets take the two parts of that separately here. First, what about the point here that if there was something criminal, some activity to hide, why would the white house allow so many people to speak freely with the special counsel and hand over so many documents without exerting executive privilege over all of them and all of that . Yeah. Well, first of all, the documents that have been turned over have not always been or are not necessarily the ones that would yield the most information. Lets start with, say, his tact return prosecuwhere the preside his money from and what he gets from overseas. Putting that aside, the reality is and suggested in the New York Times article that there was a believe by don mcgahn, himself, and his lawyer, that, perhaps, he was being sort of maneuvered into a position where the president might later turn around and say, well, look. Everything i did was on the advice of the white House Counsel. Therefore, perhaps you should talk to him and target him and not me. That is an interesting theory but its hard to be sure about that. What we know for sure, though, is that this is a president who has, day after day, tweet after tweet, tried to obstruct and sort of denigrate any idea the entire investigation. And its really important. I mean, im sure, you know, as we all remember from 1974 the second of the articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon involved his attempts to obstruct the very investigation into him and this is something that this white house and this president has done pretty consistently for a number of months now. Yeah. That potential exposure, ross, they were so concerned about that. Mcgahn and his attorney, as the times reports, deviced a plan because they were so concerned. What is potentially mcgahns legal exposure here . Yes. In terms of, you know, that notion that mcgahn was worried about something, you know, i suspect that that was because this move of allowing mcgahn to provide all of this information to cooperate with investigators was so unusual. They were trying to explain to themselves why the president s team would allow this. In terms of exposure, you know, anybody who talks to federal investigators, even if they are not under oath, they have to tell the truth or it can be a crime. And so there is that issue. Assuming he told the trunth, he doesnt have that to worry about and assuming he wasnt involved in any other criminal activity, doesnt have that to worry about ir either. The big implication, i think is the fact he was able to provide all of this information and what it means Going Forward in terms of waiver of the executive privilege and even the attorneyclient privilege. We talk about moving forward, errol. Muellers team has now spoken with mcgahn several times. They have interviewed hope hicks and Reince Priebus and sean spicer and other members of the team in the white house. Does it make the interview with the president any less urgent . I dont know about urgent. But it certainly is relevant. It certainly is important. Lets keep in mind, you know, this special counsel has also indicted 26 russian internationals, including several corporations alleged. Criminal activity. The question whether this is a witch hunt is behind us and clearly there is something there. They have indicted the nationals and the white house have made no move to get them extradited and figure out what the heck is going on. The president , himself, though, if he were to narrow the question as his president and his counsel seem to do each time they have the opportunity whether the president has something to hide or whether the president knew the full range what was clearly some wrongdoing that went on here, well, yeah, sure. Maybe he gets out of it somehow. I suppose. But, you know, one of the most important of the Fact Checkers has estimated that the president tells Something Like seven highly misleading or untrue things every single day. If that is the case, he had better make sure that the day he talks with the special counsel, if he does, is not one of those days. Yeah, the Washington Post fact checker blog has the president s false claims and misleading claims appear 4,229 for the first 558 days of his administration. Errol louis and ross grabarber, thank you both. On state of the union with jake tapper Michael Hayden and James Clapper will be a guest. That is state of the union with jake tapper today at 9 00 eastern right here on cnn. Pope francis is delivering his sunday prayer today and a lot of people are watching what he may or may not say about abuse allegations that are clouding the Catholic Church. This, of course, after a disturbing report from the grand jury regarding six Catholic Diocese in pennsylvania over abuse of 1,000 children there. We will talk about it other tied of the break. We just got married. Were all under one roof now. Congratulations. Thank you. How many kids . My two. His three. Along with two dogs and jake, our new parrot. That is quite the family. Quite a lot of colleges to pay for though. A lot of colleges. You get any Financial Advice . Yeah, but im pretty sure its the same plan they sold me before. Well your situations totally changed now. Right, right. How bout a plan that works for 5 kids, 2 dogs and jake over here . That would be great. That would be great. That okay with you, jake . 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The pope issued a statement regarding the u. S. Grand jury report calling the allegations, quote, criminal and morally reprehensible. Rome daily beast reporter is barbie who is in rome. Will the pope take another step forward today in addressing this scandal . Do we know . Barbie, can you hear me . All right. We will get back to her and fix that audio problem. We sure will. We want to go to pittsburgh and Pablo Sandoval is there. This report coming out of pennsylvania. I know youre getting reaction from the Catholic Bishop to this latest sex abuse scandal. What is he saying . Reporter i tell you what, people here in pittsburgh are certainly talking about this report even days after it was issued. After all, about 99 of those ruffle 300 priests were from this diocese mentioned in that grand jury report. Yesterday we saw that from the clergy to the congregation they are making this a part of the conversation. The priest on the mass we attended to yesterday said they should focus on their faith and gospel before they focus on the institution has that the flaws and caught amidst the crisis here. The church goers they feel the church is shaken to its core. One woman understand more than an apology she has been hearing from the Pittsburgh Diocese to the vatican. She wants a full admission what is decades of covering up this kind of behavior and same thing the victims want as well. Ive been doing this 13 years being public about my abuse and trying to advocate for other but ive heard nothing but empty promises and words. I want action. They are apologizing only because they have been caught and exposed. They did not willingly do this, im not buying that. The pope needs to step up entake control of his church. Reporter so david is the head of the diocese here in pittsburgh, what does he have to say . He has written an extensive letter to followers here in the pittsburgh area. I want to read you a small portion of the statement that he released in the days following the release of the report. He basically said that the church cannot keep its head in the sand. He specifically said the following. That is from the head of the Catholic Church in the pittsburgh area. The bishop outlining various changes have been instituted and not the last decades but the last several days following this report. The bishop saying they are in the process of publishing a full list of the clergy members who vv who have been accused of these allegations and seeking outside help to do. The first sunday services, the question is will people here say if that is enough . Good question. Polo sandoval, thank you. Lets go back to roam and cnn contributor barbie dubow. What are we expecting from the pope today taking another step forward in addressing this scandal . Well, the pope just finished his sunday message and he did not mention the victims in pennsylvania or the sex abuse scandal and a disappointment as people were hoping he would use this opportunity to offer some sort of prayer. The statement the vatican gave on thursday is going to have to stand. A statement in which they used words like criminal and accountability and some of the things that victims groups want to hear. Now, of course, they will wait for some action. Is he going to demand any resignations of those explicit bishops or cardinals in the United States . Is he going to do anything and make those words count and turn them into action . That is next for them. Barbie nadeau, we appreciate. Thank you. The suspect in last weeks vehicle attack outside the British Parliament is set to appear in court tomorrow. Prosecutors have charged this man sa lleh cutter. 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