Transcripts For CNNW Piers Morgan Tonight 20130208 : vimarsa

Transcripts For CNNW Piers Morgan Tonight 20130208

Killed or wounded, but as buildings burned and the enemy ran freely through the outpost, soldiers became heroes. One in particular. I know that theres so many great soldiers out there that would have stepped in to my shoes and done the same thing. Real american hero. You can catch jake tappers report tonight at 10 00 p. M. Eastern. Thanks very much for watching. Well see you again. Piers morgan tonight starts now. Tonight, a chilling murder manifesto. The threat to bring unconventional and assim ymmetr war fare. The suspect, one of their own. Of course, he knows what hes doing. We trained him. Among the many people he flamed, will bratton, what he knows. I would have given him a coin like this. My understanding is cnn received a package that included a replica of that coin with three bullet holes. Plus, guns, drones, and the state of the go prb. We would be talking about hearings before congress. We would have people talking about impeachment. And the snow storm takes direct aim at the northeast. Were tracking what could be a recordbreaking blizzard. This is piers morgan tonight. Good evening. Were tracking two ferocious storm systems barreling towards the east coast tonight. Theyre expecting to slam into each other in the next few hours. Boston could see snowfall of 2 to 3 inches an hour. Nearly 3,000 flights are canceled already as the airports batten down the hatches. Weather forecast from chad myers in a few minutes. The west coast, were tracking the manhunt for exlapd cop. The suspect burned truck has been dound about 100 miles northeast of los angeles. He vowed to wage war on police. Three people are dead, one officer, the daughter of a former officer, and her fiancfi. We begin with kyung lah. What is the latest on the manhunt for this very dangerous man . The Sheriffs Department just came out and spoke with reporters. What they are saying, and its a little surprising, that despite the perilous conditions, despite the danger the officers are facing on this rough terrain, they are going to keep on searching. Snow is in the forecast. Weather is going to become extremely difficult. But they say they are going to stay out there. They have the dogs out there. Theyre going to use all the technology they can, but their goal is to try to corner him in some very rough terrain, piers. I have been out in that area. Its a heavily wooded area. There are resort homes. Some of those homes are empty. Youre talking about Police Officers hunting one of their own, who wants to kill them, and he is a trained marksman and heavily armed. Given where they found the burned out truck, do they have any idea, do you think, where he may be . Or do they fear the whole thing has been a trail hes laid down to put them off where he really is . Its very difficult to tell. They were a little vague in the news conference. What the sheriff was saying is they did discover some tracks, but the tracks didnt lead to the suspect. They wont elaborate beyond nat. What they will say is they still believe he is somewhere in that area. Thats why they want to keep searching through the night. In terms of his weaponry that he has with him, we know hes highly trained. He as a shoulder mounted rpg and an assault rifle. What else can you tell me about the kind of firearms he may have . The police have been vague. We dont know if thats a be intentionally vague, but what we do know is that they believe he is heavily armed with multiple weapons. What type of weaponry, the level or sophistication of it, they are being a little vague. But certainly, he can shoot from a distance. He can be accurate from a distance. Now, we have covered here at cnn over the past six months multiple shootings like this where there have been multiple victims. The difference in this case is we are talking about a trained marksman who has targets in his sight. Thats what is particularly frightening utthis particular search. Is there some significance to today . Is it some anniversary of his time with the lapd . Something very significant. Today is february 7th. He was hired on february 7th, 2005. We dont know if its a coincidence, but certainly, this is a meaningful day to christopher dorner. Its an 11page manifesto that he left for people to pore over. Its in terms rambling and then oddly coherent, although when you put it all together, you get a sense of somebody who has kind of slipped but is driven by a sense of maltreatment going back to when he was let go by the lapd. Is that what the police think theyre dealing with, somebody who just has been harboring resentment and is now settling scores . Its a little difficult to tell because the people who have spoken to are people who knew him in much happier times, that he was much more bubbly, much more normal. But certainly, you have it exactly right, piers. If you read through the manifesto page by page, there are some coherent narratives, but at the same time, the level of violence, the amount of incoherent rage that he has against the lapd, it is there. You can certainly see that this is a man who wants to strike, who will strike, and will not be stopped until somebody stops him. Extraordinary situation. 10,000 lapd officers targeting someone who may well be targeting them. Its pretty unprecedented. Thank you very much. I want to bring in a man who has been named in that manifesto. Bill bratton is a former top cop in los angeles as well as new york. Welcome to you, chief bratton. Its a pretty alarming situation. This is aman who is highly trained both in the police and the military. Hes on the loose. What is your overview of what is going on here . Well, the circumstances today were certainly extraordinarily tragic. This is an incredibly dangerous individual. Well armed. Incredibly well armed. Who is a Trained Police officer. Im not sure what his military specialty was in the navy. But hes been responsible for a series of very tragic incidents in california, and this is an extraordinary set of circumstances. In the manifesto, he puts your name and a number of other names which i will not be revealing, and he said this, your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over. Suexpress the truth will lead to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise to where you live, work, and eat. Clearly, he feels according to this manifesto, angry about the circumstances behind his firing from the lapd. When you hear the nature of that threat, what do you think of that . Certainly very chilling, and now that we know that he in fact is acting out on his concerns even more significant. This is an individual, as best we understand it today, has murdered three people, including a police officer. Shot two other Police Officers. And there was a related tragic incident in which two innocent civilians were shot by the Los Angeles Police department, guarding one of the houses of the intended victims. Its been an extraordinary day in Southern California and hes still on the loose, and the subject of a significant manhunt there. A significant dragnet, if you will. And lets just hope theyre able to apprehend him without the loss of life. You mentioned a lot of people in this long, rambling, more than 20 pages long, manifesto. A lot of it has been redacted so it protects identities of Police Officers and their families that he may be targeting or trying to. High names a lot of media people. He names me in there, perversely congratulating me for my position on gun control, and he congratulates senator feinstein and obama. I say perverse, because he then goes out and commits a set of atrocities with a gun. He sounds completely unhinged, yet the catalyst for all this appeared to be his firing from the lapd. Do you have any recollection of what happened with him . Do you remember him . First off, we dont know hot the catalyst was. The firing was back in 2008, i believe. Its now over five years ago. So what has transpired during those five years, the court several years later upheld the firing. So as to what triggered the actions, the producing of the manifesto, the separate sending of a package to cnn last friday, we dont know. And we wont know until they either apprehend him or other information comes forward. So was it the firing . Was it Something Else that transpired . He appears to have a lot of anger directed to a lot of different people. Some who have no relationship at all, as best we can tell, with anything having to do with the discharge. The package he sent to anderson cooper, which anderson didnt see until today, wasnt made aware of it, it contained a number of things. It contained one of these. You brought this in. Explain what this is, exactly. Its a challenge coin. Its a military tradition that the policeepartments of the United States emulated now for several years. And its a coin that in my case, it has my shield, the lapd badge, and on the backside, the badges going through the years of the founding of the lapd. You give it to an individual as a sign of respect, as a token of appreciation or good luck. You probably gave it to him when you met him when he was about to go off for military service, correct . Thats correct. The photo has been shown today with me and him standing in front of flags. That is likely when he was leaving, called to active duty. I had a practice of calling the officers up with their family to wish them well and have Liaison Officers meet with the family so they could be taken care of when the officer is gone. I would have given him a coin like this at that time. My understanding is that cnn received a package that included a replica of the coin with three bullet holes. Right, which he had shot or h it had been shot in some way. It also had duct type over part of the package that contained a message to you. Thanks but no thanks, will, he calls you, bratton. Any idea what it could be about or do you assume its the fact you were running the lapd when he got laid off . I only became aware of this other package about an hour and a half ago. I was notified by cnn security that they had received it, that they wanted to bring it to my attention. My understanding is they had photo copied the information and sent it along to the fbi today, i guess, but had sent the original package back to him. So my awareness of this is almost as recent as yours. Certainly very disturbing. In the sense that the bullet holes through the coin and the specific referencing of me on the duct tape. As to what there was a series of letters as to what they stand for, speculation, i think. Imoa. Some are speculatinspeculating, speculation, imagine a more open america. Thats not a term im familiar with. There was also a dvd, the contents of which im not aware of yet. This is part of the package that was sent to anderson cooper. But it says, chris dorner exoneration on it. Clearly all part of his bid to say he was not guilty of whatever he feels he had been accused of, which led to his departu departure. Again, this is the first time im hearing about the dvd disc, so this is unfolding even as you and i are conversing. In terms of the ongoing investigation, he has said in the manifesto he obtained his weapons legally and that hes a top shot, a top marksman. He has a number of weapons including a sniper rifle and possibly some assault rifles. Clearly a fluid and dangerous situation. Incredibly dangerous, and the fact that hes apparently now up in the Bear Mountain area, which is a very popular area of california for skiing. What, 18 miles east of los angeles . Thats correct, and its very high mountains, very rugged mountains, so if hes up in that area, incredibly difficult terrain to try to explore and search. At the same time, he may have left his truck there, which was just reported burned. As to is he still there, is he gone, thats unknown at this time. What is the best thing people can do if they have any sighting of this guy . Certainly, i think as the Police Forces in the california area are encouraging citizens, one, if you see this individual, and hes a very distinctive looking individual, huge. Hes physically a huge individual. That report it to the police. Give him no indication that youre aware of him. Dont try to interfere with any of his activities. Hes an incredible dangerous individual. His Police Skills make him even more so. You referenced the significant weapons that he has access to. And thats a pretty significant arsenal in the hands of a trained individual such as he is. He obviously originally targeted the daughter of lapd captain randy quan, monica, and her fiance, killing both. Do you remember the captain . Had any dealings with him . The captain, as i understand it, retired prior to my time at the lapd, a period of 20022009, but i had no awareness of exposure to him. Well, chief, thank you very much for coming in. Obviously, an ongoing, very worrying situation. Lets hope it ends well. I indorse that. When we come back, i talk to a psychologist who worked on the unabomber case. Why he says this is difficult. And the latest on the monster storm bearing down on the east coast. If your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. 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For all you have seen, from this manifesto that this gunman has put out, this alleged gunman, what is your reading of his state of mind and his motivation . Theres a tremendous amount of evidence, of somebody who is extremely confused in this 6,000word manifesto. I could show this to a firstyear resident in psychiatry, and there are clear signs of mental illness, frankly. Former psychotic thoughts scattered throughout the manifesto. There are numerous references to people in the media, myself included, many cnn colleagues, people at other networks, random celebrities, politicians and so on. Is there any thought process there that you can see, which makes any kind of sense . Is he an attention seeker . What is going on here . Clearly, this is not about attention. This is all about, if theres a theme throughout his manifesto, piers, its vindication, but its not just this one incident he talked about in his manifesto. He accused the lapd of taking away his naval career, his relationship with his mother, his sister, of ruining his life. Its psychotic thinking. Its almost like a black hole when youre looking through the lens of psychosis. This is not an antisocial personal. Lapd would not have hired someone with an antisocial personality. We talked about two paths to this kind of situation, this kind of suspect, this kind of person. One is an antisocial personality, someone involved in criminal behavior most of their life, and the other is somebody with a brain disorder. I cant diagnose him obviously, but i can look at and assess what hes written, his state of mind as evidenced in his manifesto. Hes like a black hole of paranoia, blaming the lapd for everything, and now hes going to vindicate his name, this is the really, frankly, completely illogical, and to use a term that many people have used and i dont like to use, but crazy thought, that somehow killing Police Officers will vindicate his name. Its its completely psychotic. There are many examples throughout. He talks about first grade incidents when he was bullied, and asked journalists like yourself and others to investigate that he was never a bully. This is not someone who is thinking straight. This is somebody who theres an opportunity to speak with him, needs to be approach eed and somebody who very, very likely who has a mental illness. Untreated mental illness. Now that he has killed people, now that hes gone to that stage and killed fairly indiscriminately now and attacked Police Officers who tried to apprehend him, how dangerous has he now become in your experience, because you have all of the lapd hunting him down, but theyre his target. Its not just him being dangerous. Its the situation. As you just said, the lapd are hunting him down. Theyre his target. The lapd are understandably concerned not only for the publics safety, but for their own safety since they have been singled out. The situation is volatile. The one thing is hes reaching out to the media. If someone from the lapd, a hostage negotiator, even though no one has been held hostage, but in a sense, the community is being held hostage, if a dialogue could be started with this man, thats another way to end this. Not only a man hunt and a firefight. Thank you very much indeed. The first victims of the alleged lapd shooter were monica quan and her feanssi. Her father represented dorner when he lost his case. Thank you for joining me. I must say how incredibly sorry i am for the loss of your friend. It must be devastating to you and everyone who knew her, and a very scary time, i would think, for her family. When did you hear the news and what was your reaction . Thanks for having me. I found out monday. I woke up, turned my computer on, and found it on facebook. And immediately went to one of the news outlets and started picking it up. And throughout the day on monday, several of us were calling each other, trying to share information, what we knew, and then i talked to a few people that knew her who were a little closer with her, and they

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