His past in exclusive details including an interview with him. Hbo, a shocking conclusion. The tweet says tomorrow on hbo. It airs tonight. Now we know hes been arrested. Thats about all we know at the moment but cnn will be staying with the story throughout the day and im sure there is more to come. We take a turn here to our other big story of the morning. That is the Hillary Clinton email controversy. It is something that has dominated sunday morning talk shows, and it is something that is really all people are talking about when it comes to Hillary Clinton. But there is an Important Media angle that i want to tell you about. Its a First Amendment tugofwar. Everybody has been asking everywhere i go this week how big a deal is it really . How big a deal and is it going to affect Hillary Clinton . I think it is a big deal. It matters to all journalists for the reason ill tell you about. Associated press filed a lawsuit against the state department. It is trying to get ahold of documents and records about Hillary Clintons time at the state department. Its not just about emails but involves emails. We have the top lawyer for the ap standing by. Really this is about a First Amendment tugofwar. It comes as this clinton controversy is all anybody is talking about. Im sure you watched, a very intense one with reporters on one side and clinton on the other. You heard what she said about the scandal. I have absolute confidence that everything that could be in any way connected to work is now in the possession of the state department. I feel that ive taken unprecedented steps to provide these workrelated emails. They are going to be in the public domain. So clinton says shes sure the emails will get to the state department and they will be released to the public. But many journalists are not so sure. The Associated Press is the largest independent News Organization in the world. It is ringing an alarm bell. It is saying its getting harder and harder for the government to give up public records. For us in the media and you in the public to get ahold of documents from the government. The phrase United States of secrecy sometimes comes to mind. For ap this is about more than clintons emails. Ill tell you why that is. Joining me for an exclusive interview karen kaiser general counsel for Associated Press, at the very top of the aps ladder. Thank you for being here this morning. Thank you, brian. What im trying to make clear, what you are suing about isnt just emails but does involve emails during clintons time as secretary of state. Tell me what emails youre seeking. Absolutely. The lawsuit comprises six different requests freedom of information requests that ap journalists sought from the state department. The requests are very wide ranging. They seek information of critical topics that affect the American Public everything ranging from obama bin laden raid to information about some of clintons top aides to information about nsa surveillance. So the requests really are very wide ranging. They are not only about emails. They include requests for documents, calendar erss, notes emails as well. Ultimately it is information that should be made available to the american people. You arent suing Hillary Clinton directly but the state department. Why did it get to this point . Absolutely. We are suing the state department not former secretary clinton. We made the requests because these have gone unanswered for a significant period of time. Our earliest request dates backs to 2010 others 2013. They have gone unanswered many years. The state department missed statutory deadlines, others itself for itself estimated completion. Weve gone back and forth and they keep missing these deadlines. They say they are overwhelmed, 19,000 last year. Did they have enough people at the department to handle all these requests . Well they did they claimed they received 19,000 requests last year and that is an awful lot of requests but they are legally obligated under the law to produce these documents. They have that requirement under freedom of information act. Five years is way too long to wait. This happens to be sunshine week. Ill tell the viewers about it while you fix isb, sunshine something organized by journalists every year in order to bring attention to these issues about government documents and the publics right to have access to them. We see in state houses all across the country harder and harder kplimt for journalists to get ahold of these documents. Karen, if youre back with me do you think theres a solution to this continuing pervasiveness of government secrecy . Yes, i mean we are seeing continual problems brian. We are seeing continual problems mostly in terms of delays. On the state level federal level, there are tons of delays. As we have seen repeatedly about the state department they are one of the worst offenders when it comes to delays. On the state level, enormous problem, also a problem in terms of redactions. A wide range. Karen, thank you for being here. I appreciate it. Check out sunshine weeks website, learn more about this effort. Even though we as journalists talk about importance of public documents and using freedom of information acts to get ahold of documents, its really a law for the public to use as well. Where some people see secrecy at work with the clintons others see selfpreservation, something thats been seen for decades. As soon as the private email story became public two weeks ago, the Hillary Clinton hate machine sprung into action. Im talking about the people who love it hate the clintons. The people who can find conspiracy in even the smallest of their movement. They have been around for decades. My guest guest used to be one of them. He doggedly chased the story of the white house lawyer that clinton may have had something to do with fosters suicide. The reality is fosters death was ruled a suicide and there was no murder or coverup. Couple decades later hes changed his tune warmed up to the clintons he traveled with former president bill clinton and donated 1 million to the clinton foundation. He says hillary would be a good president if she runs. Hes still a conservative. He runs news max and plans to support gop nominee, whoever it is. This gives unique insight into clinton critics and how she can counter that. Joining me from florida, good morning. Brian, good to be on with you. I know people are always fascinated by the evolution in your relationship to the clintons lets say. How do you explain it . Well its a long story. I was very close friend with ed koch former mayor of new york. He introduced me to bill clinton i really started to warm with bill clinton after he left the presidency when i started seeing what his foundation was doing and work he was doing as a post president. He really reinvented the job of being a post president. And i think, and im still a very big supporter of the foundation bill hillary, chelsea foundation. They are doing amazing work. I have always found it to be very, very nonpartisan. They have extremely competent people. Theres always some sort of insinuation that theres something political or something malevolent and i just find those things to be totally bogus. You dont think the recent scrutiny by journalists about middle eastern contributions to the foundation is something thats legitimate and actually something that is going to affect her . I think its really good that the president , the former president went out and used his brand, his name his reputation to raise money all over the world, not just from places in the middle east but private corporations in the United States wealthy individuals all over the world. That money nobody really disputes this has gone to really good purposes for health care in the third world, poverty aleviation a sustainable development. So look at the result. I wouldnt worry about i think its great arab countries or other countries want to donate to that foundation. Nobody has ever really all this insinuation, again, no one has proved or said indicated there was some benefit or somehow secretary of state clinton did something to favor one of those donors. Theres no evidence of that whatsoever. If there was, i think it should be investigated. I know you have unique insight into this world because of your coverage in the 90s. With that in mind how do you think she handled the press Conference Last Week and how is her organization handling all these questions . I think a lot of reporters have been really frustrated by the lack of answers. Well i dont think it was really a great performance. But i also think shes in a very difficult position. People forget what the fame work of this whole situation is. Every major company, every corporation in america, since the dawn of the internet have been properly storing archiving emails. Cnn does it. The federal government hasnt figured out a disem yet. In fact president obama four years into his administration in 2012 finally issued a memo and said every agency needs to get systems archived but they only have to implement it in 2016 which just happens to be the year hes leaving presidency. Hillary decided to start archiving these emails herself on her own server. Probably not a smart move but at least she was archiving. We now know other agencies didnt archive at all. So on one hand i think its good she wants to release 55,000 pages. In fact shes called for the state department to do that. Thats good. The bad side is she doesnt want anyone to look at the server. I think thats going to raise up all sorts of questions and suspicions. What i would suggest she do is an independent auditor come in just to review the server make sure no Foreign Government hacked it make sure all the data was properly transferred. Someone like luis freeh, former director of the fbi, somebody independent to come in. You use the word spriggses thats what conservative media is so effective at and what you used to do, raise suspicions even if they arent fair. Brian, why are you blaming conservative media about this. I read New York Times,time magazine had a negative story. The clinton way, they write their own rules. Will it work this time. New york times is the outlet that wrote this story a couple of weeks ago but i wonder if sometimes conservative media takes it too far and actually helps Hillary Clinton. Ed klein was on larry cud lows radio story, various people in the Obama Administration peddling the story and pushing the story. Thats exactly what i mean. Theres no evidence for that. Thats what i mean. We also know people on the Democratic Left original obama supporters they are probably finding great glee in this story. I think conservatives should handle this in the middle of the road approach saying look all the emails should be released. There should be a Third Party Review of it but not make any accusation or allegation that she was hacked or hid emails until the evidence proves it. But at the same time if the conservatives go too far, i saw this in the 90s myself clinton won two elections, hes still an extremely bill clinton still an extremely popular president. These attacks work in the bubble but dont win over middle voters. Thats the problems republicans will have. Chris, thanks for being here this morning. Great being on with you, brian. Were going to have more on Hillary Clinton later in the Program Including why one veteran reporter uses the term ptsd. Church of scientology new attacks owner documently about the religion. That filmmaker joins me for an exclusive interview next. Its more than a network and the cloud. Its reliable uptime. And multilayered security. Its how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. With centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network, and cloud and hosting services all with dedicated responsive support. With centurylink as your trusted Technology Partner youre free to focus on growing your business. Centurylink. Your link to whats next. I am totally blind. And sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. 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I had to stay there, sleep there, i stunk, there were ants crawling around. You sleep about an hour two hours a night. You were in such a mental state, youre very controllable very suggest i believe. Scientology has a history spending millions of dollars to silence crib. This time they are even buying google ads, if you google going clear you find videos produced by scientology rebutting documentary. Here is one example. The hbo piece is textbook propaganda. Gibbney hand picking sources to serve his version of the truth. Less talk a look at what gibbney sight on scene calls a prison camp. Could have chosen Administrative Offices for church management. Here is the reception. Here is the Conference Room and the courtyard. What he showed instead, ants. Over the weekend, there was another response actually a fivepage response to the film. I wanted to get gibbneys reaction to that. I spoke with him a few minutes ago. Alex thank you for joining me. Diluted. Good to see you, brian. You havent responded to fivepage letter from scientology report to Hollywood Reporter. When you read it im sure youve read it by now, what was your reaction . I found it frankly ridiculous. The Hollywood Reporter asked them 20 factbased reasoned questions. The church dependent respond to any of them. Instead they sent a fivepage letter full of nasty invective character assassinations and innuendo which is typical of the church. Theres a doctrine called fair game critics, go after them any way they can to slander them put out all sorts of very meanspirited attacks. Its interesting to me a church which is a religious organization in theory would spend so much time trying to provoke hatred. Were showing one of the videos produced now. In your film you talk about prison camps the church allegedly has. They show their Administrative Offices and say thats the site of the prison camp socalled prison camp. How do you explain that sort of contradiction . Look we showed in the film and its very clearly marked in the film we showed a photograph of the doublewide trailers that were the whole at the time. Its not there now. It upset the church was david likes to believe his facilities are spanking clean and there were no ants. It was the ant thing that upset him. I think the most amusing thing they showed in the propaganda video, they showed vicinity but no people. The membership of scientology is mysteriously shrinking and shrinking fast. The other thing, they say very openly you can come and take a public tour of these facilities any time. Its not true. Im sure you tried. What was the response from the church when you tried to gain access. At the time i didnt try to gain access to that facility. I wanted to go in and ask some very specific questions of some individuals who particularly related to the story. The key guy, because many of these decisions come from the top, recelentlessly refused to talk to me or anybody. Hes the head of the church but refuses to speak. Theres other members we asked for comment but did not. They said our counsel will consider all options how hard was it to make this film keeping in mind