Harassment by roger ails. What does it say about the future of fox news. First journalists standing by for more appointments by president elect trump as he continues to hold meetings with possible cabinet choices. Today on the agenda new york governor chris christie, former new york city mayor Rudy Guiliani sorry, i meant new jersey there and Robert Johnson the founder of b. E. Te. Also inn freeingingly manuo meeting with trump today and the president elect doing all this publicly at his resort in new jersey putting on a show for the cameras. Even as his Administration Starts to take shape trump cannot resist lashing out on twitter. His latest targets the cast of hamilton after the cast had a message for Vice President elect mike pence during friday nights program. Trump tweeted on saturday and again this morning. Saying the cast and producers of hamilton which i hear a is highly overrated should immediately apologize to mike pence for their terrible behavior. Im speechless. And then he turned his sights on snl after alec baldwin played trump as someone who is a little or a lot in offer his head. Trump tweeted i watched parts of snl last night it is a totally onesided biased show, nothing funny at all, equal time for us . We will get into what he means by equal time a little later. The big question is president elect trump going to continue to make the media a real issue or is this all just a big distraction . Would he rather have people talking about his tweets than the various controversies he is facing and his conflicts of interest involving his businesses. Joining me now charles blow columnist for the New York Times, selena zito National Political reporter and ben shapiro editor and chief of the daily wire. Com. Charles, do you believe this is a strategy by president elect tru trump, does he get people auld riled up in order to distract people from real controversies . I think its a compulsion he really he is consumed. This is a guy from queens who wanted to be in new york city. His whole kind of social orbit is the new york city orbit. So thats why hes still kind of positions himself in new york city media. Thats why he attacks the New York Times, thats why he attacks snl, thats why he is attacking a broadway show. The New York Times put together an amazing list of all the people he had attacked. Take a look at that list and see how many of those personalities are people who are right here in new york city. Its almost as if hes not completely moved into the realm of being president of the entire United States, hes still obsessed about new york city and in that includes new york city media. Selena, you have been asking new yorkers about hamilton. Do voters in pennsylvania and ohio do they care about this hamilton controversy . I went out into youngstown, ohio, yesterday and talked to a number of voters and i specifically talked to democrats who voted for clinton and asked them how they felt about it. While they had no problem with the speech that was given afterwards they did have a problem with the booing. They thought it was disrespectful and that they think that more respect should have been shown to him as a guy just going to see a play. So booing by the audience members when pence walked into the room. Right. Let me bring up trumps famous twitter feed and one of his tweets from yetd about this, one of his first comments about this controversy, he said the following, he said our wonderful future Vp Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of hamilton, cameras blazing. Then he said this should not happen. He is not talking about the booing there hes talking about the cast members message. Right. Ben, i read Something Like that, donald trump saying this should not happen and i think that has a Chilling Effect for art stick expression. After all these performers were up on stage, performing art even when they were speaking to the Vice President elect. Do you agree . Sorry, ben, go ahead. It isnt my favorite thing. I would recommend that conservatives who look at president elect trump doing this and saying it seems okay to me just imagine if the shoe were on the other foot and it was barack obama lecturing nascar fans if he got booed. On the other hand, you know, i would recommend that the media sort of take a second look at how much focus they put on things like this because the fact is if youre going to turn it up to 11 on a hamilton tweet this is going to be a long president for all of you. Is that what you think happened on saturday and again today . Weve turned it up to 11 . Yeah, i think the Mainstream Media has been at 11 since the election and i think that that means that there is no place to turn it from there. This is sort of the problem in the 2016 election. I think there are a lot of aspersions cast to mitt romney and then when he came back in 2016 and cast the same aspersion at donald trump who was a different candidate people tuned it out. I really think that the media is in danger of blowing its credibility if theyre going to be so exuberant about covering every aspect of trumps foibles because there are going to be things he does that arent good and you want people to Pay Attention to it. If you Pay Attention to a hamilton tweet as something more troubling, president elect trump meeting with Business Partner from india while he is the president elect that seems something where you ought to put more focus. Charles, do you agree . I think no, i think you have to just constantly call out everything. But doesnt that raise ben is saying raise the volume to 11 at all times. I am so personally offended by so much of what he does, you know, you make a really strong point about, you know, artistic expression and allowing that to live and breathe and not try to put your thumb on the scale of that as the president of the United States. Thats a real point. That is not a small thing, right . As a person who lives here in new york city, who goes to broadway, who has gone to see hamilton and it is not overrated it is actually a great show i do think donald trump needs to go and see hamilton. I think he needs to see it. But i think there is a real need for all of us to put constant pressure on this man to make him live up to the ideals of the presidency itself. And i am obviously an opinion journalist im not a straight News Reporter and they have a different mission, a straight News Reporter, but people like me there is a real the country needs us right now to put pressure on him because we have to make him be the president. He is going to be president for four years and he has to conform to that in some way. He cant do things like this and not have it called out. It just cant happen. Selena let me ask you do you buy that . One of the reasons you are here with us, one of cnns newest contributors is you had a much better understanding of what was going on in voters minds during the election season, you were speaking with voters in the rust belt on a daily basis. We need to hear much more from voices outside d. C. And new york and the corridor. Let me ask you do you think folks out there outside the new york d. C. Bubble do believe they need journalists right now . Do they believe in what we think here on cnn . And thank you for that nice introduction. But i do think that thats important and that was sort of missed in this election cycle. That they didnt think that people not just were talking to them, because plenty of reporters went into events in ohio and pennsylvania and michigan, but being there and living there and listening to them, i think that was the most important component that we need to learn from this election is listening to everyone and i think this is a good start. Well, they want to be heard, but do those voters, do ordinary voters who probably havent seen hamilton do they care about journalists trying to stand up and hold the president elect accountable or does all of that come across at media bias . Its not just media bias. I think when you look at trumps most recent tweets its not just really about media, but its about pop culture and cultures perception of america outside of new york city. Right . So they like that tension, i think that even though and back to your thing about standing up to trump. I think viewers and voters always expect reporters even if they dont like what we do to challenge the status quo and to challenge power because our job is to bring them the news and have them understand what is happening. The challenge power indeed. Selena, thank you for being here, charles, ben, please stick around. We will take a quick break on reliable sources. When we come back were talking about trump ditching the press pool, how accessible is he being with journalists . We have new information from the head of the White House Correspondents Association right after this quick break. When heartburn hits, fight back fast the challenge power indeed. Head of the white house the int touches your tongue. And neutralizes stomach acid at the source. Tum tum tum tum smoothies only from tums you can use whipped topping made. But real joyful moments. 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The what you say Correspondents Association issued a warning after he ditched the press pool to go out to dinner. They said it isnt acceptable for him to prafl without the pool. In another rebuke trump denied access to his meeting with the japanese Prime Minister later in the week. There was a photo taken, a handout photo which means its basically a visual press release. Most major news outlets worked together and agreed not to show the photo as a form of protest. Thats why you didnt see it in the news coverage. These kinds of choices are made by news outlets in order to take a stand. We also heard from 15 different journalism advocacy groups this week all urging the president elect to not only provide a press pool but also take other steps towards transparency. Lets talk about this rocky start whether there is any reason to think it might get better. Rejoining me here charles blow and ben shapiro and let me bring in ann compton former White House Correspondent for abc news. You of course were on air force one, you were one of the pool reporters on 9 11, traveling with president george w. Bush, informing the nation that he was safe and that he was moving about the country trying to return to washington. As we look at some of the video from that fateful day can you tell us, ann, in a nutshell why does the press pool matter . Why should you and i and everyone watching care . Youre absolutely right, there is a reason why for the last half century or more every president , republican and democrat, have welcomed the presence of a travel pool, a rotating group of print reporters, broadcast journalists and photographers, a small group which can cover him in more intimate settings and pool that information with the rest of the White House Press corps. On that morning of september 11th, 2001, when a crisis struck, the reporters who were in the room to assure the rest of the nation that the president was safe, that the president was acting. Its the same reason why the president has to be president wherever he is. Whether its a restaurant or a school room or air force one. Thats why he also has a military doctor and a Communications Van full of equipment where he can reach out and be president wherever he is. I dont care what kind of steak he orders but i do care that hes safe. Ann, you say this is actually the least of the medias problems with regard to a trump presidency. Absolutely. The press pool is important and every president has used one, but the biggest question goes back to what you just talked about with a photo op with the president with the Prime Minister from japan. Access to the president has to be in person by the reporters covering the white house covering the president or president elect where he is. In advance the Trump Organization was told that if they just handed out a photo taken by the trump staff or by the japanese that the American Media wont use it. If its an event which should be open to press coverage then the media is not going to use the photographs any more than they would take a written printout of the president or president elect and simply read it on the air. Thats a handout, thats not news coverage. I was asking the head of the White House Correspondents Association jeff mason for an update this morning. We can put on screen what he said to me. So, ben, we have seen some access this weekend, president elect donald trump greeting visitors to his golf resort. Do you think this is a positive sign, something we should actually be acknowledging and thanking him for . Or this is the kind of bare minimum, the bare minimum acceptable standard for access to the president . Well, look, i think the expectation that hes going to make himself available to the press is a good one and i hope that he does do that, especially after he becomes president , i think there may be some different standards for president elect than president , but ann would know that better than i would. Beyond that, you know, the fact is that the press access for the last eight years has been terrible and many members of the press have complained about this. The white house was releasing its own photos and tapes of events and not allowing the press to cover it in the way that the press wanted to cover it for years, the doj was targeting people at the ap. There has been a lot of problems between the white house and the press long predating donald trump, thats not an excuse for trump to do the right thing but it is worth putting it in context. How bad was it in the Obama Administration versus the bush or Clinton Administration . Well, i dont think president obama has a perfect record on this. Very often in meetings that he holds within the white house conducting the office of president the white house will offer us a still photograph or put their own video on the whitehouse. Gov website. The kind of meetings which traditionally with his predecessors a press pool would always come in and get some video in person watching the president rather than being handed material. Thats the new media age. Weve given the tools of journalism including twitter to the president s and to the candidates. Speaking of twitter we heard from the president as i mentioned earlier this morning on talking about snl, saying snl was unfunny. Charles, he also said that maybe there should be equal time for us. That could mean a lot of things. I interpreted his words of equal time to of he ever to the fcc rules mandating equal time. Remember when trump was on snl, he hosted last year. Nbc stations have to offer his gop rifles equal time. They had to offer them basically free commercials in order to make up for the fact that trump hosted snl. The rules are only in effect during the election not in effect the rest of the time. What do you make of his reference to equal time . Is he willfully miss understandings what it means . Of course he is. He doesnt he doesnt get that. Also its twitter, right, so you can be i dont know what time it is, often he tweets in the middle of the night, he might have gotten up in the middle of the night to us auto the bathroom and tweets. I dont know. I take that its twitter, you could make a mistake on twitter. The bigger question that i think all of us need to ask a whether or not hes really ready to be president of the United States in the sense of is he really open to this 24 7 public scrutiny and work. And the press pool relates to thaz al. The press pool relates to that. The idea that you will be under scrutiny all the time. That you will have to live in the fishbowl. Im not sure that that is part that he wanted that part of it. He definitely wanted to win and he won. But what comes along with that is the scrutiny, what comes along with that is always being around. I had read reports of him saying that he might even want to come back to new york to trump towers on the weekends. Right. You ha