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CNNW Reliable Sources August 12, 2018

Trump hall of mirrors, well show you how sean hannity handed over his radio show to trumps lawyer. Thats coming up later this hour. But first a simple question, is she a whistle blower or is she a fame junky . Is omarose manigaultnewman doing with her new bookmaking startling claims against her former boss donald trump but should the press take her seriously . This is a story that will be unraveling for days to come, ultimately a story about credibility and it is incredible. Ten years ago she was a reality tv villain and one year ago the highest ranking black employee in the Trump White House and now shes the author of a tell all book unhinged out on tuesday. She turns on trump calling him racist, and mentally waning. She bhas begun her tour on met the press and the tapes shes secretly recorded in the white house. Well get to that in a moment but shes calling out her former colleagues as liars. This is a white house where everybody lies. The president lies to the American People. Sarah huckabee stands in front of the country and lies every single day. You have to have your own back. That is, she says, why she recorded tapes in the white house. Look, shes not excusing herself. She is saying she was come police sit. It is hindsight but i will say this to you, i was come poli co how mentally declined he is and how difficult it is for him to process complex information, how he is not engaged in some of the most important decisions that impacts our country. For that i regret. She can say that now, shes sort of playing the hero now speaking out against trump thats how shes portraying herself but her brand has always been about being a villain, not a hero, a villain, a liar, a back stabber and selfpromoter. Shortly after she was kicked out of the white house, she took up residence on the cbs big brother show and hinted about revelations on trump and now shes out pitching her book. Now i think the book is a big deal because she is the first Trump White House staffer to write an unflattering tellall. But some of what shes written is unbelievable. There are basic mistakes in the text and several people have come out and denied specific things that she has written about them. There was apparently a lack of Fact Checking, a lack of editorial rigger associated with the book and yet, you know what will happen for days to come, the media is going to talk about this book, the entertainment media, the tabloid press that finds it irresistible. The new mark chair at journalism ethics and a columnist for the boston globe and a long time analyst and april ryan who had scrapes of omarose is a cnn political analyst and about to be out with her book titled under fire reporting from the front lines of the Trump White House. There is a lot to unpack. How do we approach a book with pretty sloppy errors in the text but is also a damming portrait of the sitting president . Look, this is a situation where its a mixed bag. Josh listened to some of the tapes she made in the white house. Hes also reviewed the nondisclosure agreement she was offered by laura trump and the Trump Campaign to be paid 15,000 a month and stay quiet which she declined and many of the quotes in the book match what he heard on the tapes. Clearly, there seem to be errors and lack of Fact Checking. That is a real problem. Its not confined to just this book. Lets think about fire and furry the Michael Wolff book that was explosive we couldnt stop talking about that seemed to have basic lack of Fact Checking. This is a problem across the Book Publishing industry as it relates to stories being told about donald trump that everyone is looking for the most explosive story and we cant lower our standards and not fact check. At the same time there is a lot of stuff in this book that was taped that was true and if she was credible enough to be a senior white house official to be quoted as a white house official at the time, then shes credible enough to be listened to now at the same level. You cant have it both ways. Thats what i would say about her credibility. It comes back to trump hiring her in the white house over a year ago. Lets talk about the tapes you referenced. Its interesting shes using the tapes as leverage so when people call her a liar, here are the receipts and tapes. Lets listen to part of the tape when the day omarose was fired by john kelly. This was she says was taped in the situation room i guess on a cell phone. Lets listen to it and well talk about it. Can i ask you a couple questions . Is the president aware . Lets not go down the road. This is a nonnegotiable discussion. I dont want to negotiate. This is my departure i would like to have an opportunity to understand we can talk another time. This has to do with serious integrity violations. So ill let it go with that. So the staff and everyone on the staff works for me, not the president. So there you go. Part of the tape recorded at the white house on the day she was let go, april, i know that omarose secretly taped you in the past so how are you processing this new tape . Yes, she did. Well, you know, in the Washington Post article after she edited a tape of our altercation in the west wing that i detail in my book fact well ly, she said that is what we do. That is what everyone including the president of the United States does, tapes people but here is the problem. If indeed these tapes are factual and i believe them to be credible, i was on twitter today and reading some of the tweets and i saw something after the meet the press interview and i called congressman Elijah Cummings who is the minority leader in the government in Oversight Reform Committee in the house and he said if indeed these tapes are there and they were taped in the situation room and the oval office and other places, this is a National Security issue and hes looking into it. National security protocols were not followed. Omarose says she has taped in the oval office, and in the situation room. Weve heard the tapes. Now ive talked to people from former administrations and they have said you are not allowed i know this for a fact, when we go into otrs with the president orsen your oc senior official w put our cell phones in a cabbie in a room. Youre not supposed to bring your cell phone in the situation room, in the roosevelt room, youre not supposed to have your cell phone in the office of the chief of staff and youre not supposed to have your cell phone in the National Security office and this leads to a broader question, are National Security protocols being followed in this white house . Were talking about russia. Now you got to worry about omarose and others who might have cell phones taping things and they could be hacked. This is not just about a booking getting paid for a booking telling all. If she did the tapes, we hear voices and everything, you dont know if they are edited are not. There is a credibility issue with her. Ill be honest with you but there are tapes and this is a National Security issue. This is not just about a book anymore. Shes giving receipts and shes in trouble. The change situation because nobody involved has a lot of credibility. Lets put on screen Sarah Sanders statement about the book. She came out and said the book is full of lies and false accusations. And she said she regrets she has no credibility, either. Keep that in mind the next time Sarah Sanders dishes a false accusation. So its a matter of who has less credibility and jeff greenfield, we also have to keep in mind omaroses many past statements supporting president trump. You know, i dont quote very often but one of the famous lines is history repeats itself the first is tragedy, the second is farce. And if it werent for the fact that as april says there is serious National Security issues here, this kind of looks like a weird remake of dr. Strange love and maybe the way to approach this once you have a situation where someone like donald trump can be president of the United States, why should we be surprised a tv star is dominating the media and the lead of this program in which it is quite clear a that her affection for donald trump is in direct relationship to whether or not she had a highpaying job at the white house and second, where the most basic Fact Checking in a book, not a tweet has clearly been missed. So my feeling is as far as im concerned, i want to wait for Bob Woodwards book. I have a feeling his opinion is me, too. His book is called fear out in a month. Its doing well, so much better on amazon than omaroses book is. There is something to be said about the reporting and speculating but here is the thing about om ma rarose. She said our president is in declining Mental Health 6789. Saying we have to bow down to donald trump makes assertions less credible. Look, its always a disgruntled employee who does this. We never had a book from a grunt l employ employee. If donald trump is declining Mental Health thats a serious issue but the source of this, omarosa is in my view so compromised by everything she said up to the point when john kelly kicked her out of the white house that it goes to the issue of how much are you going to trust this . Right, right. Definitely. Sorry, last word. Yeah. Sorry, april, you there. Last word to you since youve known sorry, i didnt hear you. Yeah, ive known omarosa for years and were not friends anymore. What has happened is this white house created this monster and it was even before this white house, you know, i would say donald trump created his own monster and now the monster, he created the own monster in his own likeness and the monster has come back to bite him and i can tell you for a fact, she was come polil complisit but wanted to prove she was in their camp because she used to be a democrat and went so far to go after me. She told sean spicer to stop calling on me. She has done so much. She lied on me telling people i was taking money from Hillary Clinton to hurt my career. Omarosa did these things. She may not even talk about it in her book but i talk about it in mine and she did it to support her president and support her friend that she said she was loyal to and the bottom line is that yes, she was codoi this knowing it would be a payoff in the end for her and once she got upset with him or he got upset with her, she turns on him. Shes not a friend, shes a liar and i would say shes evil. I hope she can respond to that at some point soon calling her evil. She will, im sure she will. Im sure she will. Panel, stick around. Lets take a turn for a moment and bring the panel back later in the hour. After the break, new york city mayor bill de blasio, is he taking a page from president trumps playbook attacking the press, murdochs outlets . De blasio will join me in a moment. Come on dad higher higher parents arent perfect, but then they make us Kraft Mac Cheese and everythings good again. Can start in the colon constipation and diarrhea and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. Only Phillips Colon Health has this unique combination of probiotics. It helps replenish good bacteria. Get fourinone symptom defense. Thats the same thing i want to do with you. Its an emotional thing to watch your child grow up and especially get behind the wheel. 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Mayor, thanks for coming over. Thank you, brian. What is your critique of murdoch . You were quoted saying imagine the country if murdoch never had papers or networks . We would be a more unified country. There would be less overt hate and appeal to division because what murdoch did is create a dynamic. We saw it in new york city for years and years where race was infused into the dialogue in a negative way and it was an apocalypse version of crime and decay and always putting that through a lens of people of color as the villains. You talk about central park five or so many other instances, certainly you saw that around the election of david in new york and how he was vilified but you see it on a national level. Too. They dont just dog whistle, they go farther. They put race front and center and stir the negative impulses, there is no donald trump without news corp. He never would have got the presidency because he wouldnt be elevated the way he was for years and years. I believe in a free strong media. Ill defend it with all i got but we have to be able to call out when a particular company has a corporate agenda has a political agaenda and very effectively changed the american discourse and by the way, when i was growing up with i think some real heroes of journalism. Walter cronkite is obvious and so many others before him, they set a tone of evilness and respect and got a hearing because the American Media gave them the opportunity to be heard. Today you have one outlet and one outlet only sewing division and we should be able to talk about that. So you would rather not have the New York Post or fox news exist . Look, its a free country. Because they exist weve been changed for the worst. If you said. Isnt that like saying they are fake news or enemy of the people . No, because i think what the president tried to do is create a dynamic thats anti media, anti free speech, undermining democratic norms. This is a president that doesnt believe in democratic norms. I believe in them deeply and a free discourse. Sure sounds like you feel anti media feelings. No, i feel anti news corp feelings and angry when i see a media outlet, a Corporate Giant dividing people and creating hatred and negativity and changing our Political Landscape for the worse. I think we have to be able to talk about that. We have to respect their Constitutional Rights of course but we also are consumers. Were also citizens. If we dont talk about it and they continue to do this to our country, something is wrong. There is lots of media critics but politicians make lousy media critics. Why do you think its your role because you dont like the context . Its not happening enough. Youre doing it because nobody else is . No, i agree with you. Well get criticized by all media. We have to take it and listen and even the New York Post sometimes write as story on something happening with a Government Agency that proves to be right and we have to address and fix it. I think its fair to say also that when you look at cnn for example, you look at the major networks, they do not harbor a daily hourly political agenda and bias. They provide both sides. Its part of their dna. They may have values and views when it comes to news corp, they have a Political Mission and we have to be able to talkbili abo it. Its like trump singling out cnn. Two wrongs dont make a right. Two versions of something bad. Couldnt disagree more. Cnn on a regular basis provides both sides of the story. Cnn you can find politics in cnn but it does not come close to resembling the clear political agenda of news corp. Again, to your question why should we talk about it . Its changing our lives and if we dont talk about it, how do you address it . I had staffers say you were doing exactly what donald trump does. Couldnt be more untrue. You think its a false equivalent . False. Two things can be bad if not equal. They can both be bad. Lets break it down. If one agrees and look at the facts over decades, does news corp have a clear right wing agenda . That is obvious. Do they sensationalize, racialize and divide . Yes. Does that compare to cnn, nbc, cbs, abc, the New York Times, the Washington Post . No, one is not like the other. They have a right to exist but we have a right to confront what they are doing to our country and not simply stand idly by because we fear staffers say that makes me feel unsafe leaving my building in midtown manhattan, is that a problem. Not if you say rerespect all media and defend all medias rights but also have to berespe media and defend all medias rights but also have to be able to espect all media and defend all medias rights but also have to be able to say if its affecting it in a way are you doing this because you want to run for president . My term goes to 2021. I think Bernie Sanders hit a vain. I wonder if you view this as a wedge issue. Ive been talking about the Corporate Media since 1980. You have withbeen. Lets go through examples. Here is some of what you said according to the private emails leaked out and released by a court order. You said the

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