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CNNW Smerconish May 7, 2016

Unhappy voters are already have a third party candidate. The ballot could look like this. I will talk to the man that everyone is suddenly googling. Trumps idea of outreach is to eat mexican food downstairs at the trump you tower. The internet went crazy. Did it work . Ill talk to the former mexican president. After all of the worry of a brokered gop convention, surprise. It looks likely for the democrats thanks to Bernie Sanders. First, did paul ryan hurt donald trump or help him . The Republican House speaker stunned observers when here on cnn thursday he said that he was not ready to endorse presumptive nominee trump for president. Conventional wisdom says that this harms trump. After all, ryan will preside this summer in cleveland and looks like he is setting the tone for not accepting trump as is. The New York Times claims its an unfixable divide. I think that ryan has don the donald a favor. He has done the opportunity. Ryans announcement followed the news the gops two most recent president s and its two most president ial candidates will not attend the convention, and that other prominent republicans, including Lindsey Graham and bush are saying that they will not support trump. More like john mccain, kelly i out have become contortionists. They say that they will vote for him but not support him. To compete in the fall, trump needs to improve the standing and not with just the you leaders but with the voters. He received more than ten million vote but was thats only 40 of the gop votes thus far. He remains deeply unpopular among some americans. 24 of americans disapprove of trump. And a cnn orc poll shows that 56 percent see him as unfavorable. He is trailing with clinton head to head. How can ryans rebuke help him . If trump can get ryan to come around. This week ryan and trump will meet in washington, and ryan left open the door for a future endorsement and saying perhaps in the future we can Work Together and come to an agreement on what is best for the american people. Here is the thing, ryan is speaking for many whose concern need to be addressed for trump to win. If ryans concerns can be concerned about trump can be satisfied on issues like nato and trade and entitlements, that might encourage others to take a second look at presumptive nominee. Of course, for that to work, trump needs to care about why ryan disapproves of him. His tweet suggests thats not how he sees it. Quote, paul ryan said that i inherited something very special, the republican party. Wrong i didnt inherit it, i won it with millions of voters joining me is charlie from pennsylvania. Charlie, you heard my thoughts, what are yours . Well, i said the same thing that paul ryan said a day earlier. I too have concerns about Donald Trumps candidacy. Right now the ball is in his court to mend fences, he has a lot to do to unify the party. He said last week that he did not need to unify the party. I think that he does. Paul ryan is a very serious, thoughtful policy guy. Hes a policy wonk, and he feels strongly. He is principle and wants to advance it. I think that donald trump has had very were few and sparse policy positions and the ones hes had has been conflicted or contradictory at times. I think thats a great concern for the speaker. Its not only a concern for the speaker and then not many others for congress and then a lot of voters around the country. Well, youre making my point if he can satisfy paul ryan, there could be others, like charlie dent, who come along as well. Now, theres a contrary argument and Rush Limbaugh articulated it. Lets listen. If trump in order to get ryans support, moves to the republican agenda, its not good for trump. That would be an error. Trump is where he is precisely because hes not perceived as being part of that. Charlie, doesnt limbaugh have a point, saddling up to the establish, to the extent youre in that category, all of a sudden he alienates the base that got him thus far. Thats the conundrum for trump. Well with, i would perhaps disagree with Rush Limbaugh on that point. Look at Foreign Policy. Donald trump has talked about withdrawing from nato. Thats a huge mistake approximate for the alliance. Its the centerpiece for the National Security and foundation and nuclearizing asia, japan, south korea, not a good idea. He has talked about a number of other issues on that regard that are settling to me and the Foreign Policy statement week or so ago America First from the 1930s, i think that a lot of americans and thoughtful republicans you including so many in the base would have the concerns on the policy approximate positions. Thats the things that paul ryan wants to talk about as well as economic isolation which many of us think is a failed course of action. How about the argument that says, wait a minute, paul ryan, youre the speaker of the house, the republican speaker of the house, the chairman of the upcoming convention, either get on board or get out of the way . Well, yeah, paul, his job, to a certain extent, hes tried to play switzerland to a certain degree. He feels that he has an obligation to be fair to all of the candidates and i think he was in the process. He at times did speak out against some of of Donald Trumps incendiary comments on muslims and after the david duke debacle, he felt he had to do that. Now theres a nominee, i feel that paul ryan is correct, the nominee needs to listen to folks like the speaker who are serious about setting a thoughtful, aspirational message for the party. Thats one of the reasons that i supported john kasich. He had a message and campaign forward looking. Donald trump needs to develop that kind of message if he is going to get support, unify the republican party. Congressman charlie dent, thank you, as always, for being here. Thank you, michael. Go lehigh. Tweet me. I will read some of them later in the program. Can trump turn the paul ryan flap to his advantage . Joining me now is bob beckel and e. D. Hill. Who needs who verses ryan and trump . I think that theyre both helping each other. Both of them answered the questions in an honest way. You look pandering and you look false and fake and phony, if one second you hate a person and then the next second you say, oh, hes the nominee, i love him, i love him. We dont believe it. If they get together and share and talk and then come out and say that were supporting each other, that rings true. E. D. , what to rushs point, to say that trump runs the risk of alienating the constituency that brought him to the dance . Excuse me, the conventional wisdom has been shown to be absolutely wrong this entire election cycle. We think and we go to the wings where we want to win a primary. We come to the middle when we want to win general elections. He went to the primary and won. And he didnt get the wings. You but he, like reagan, is looking for ways to unify america instead of just focussing on the selection of one party. Bob beckel, i want to show you a map that the New York Times put together, color coded to show what would happen if the race took place today as between Hillary Clinton and donald trump. It shows that relative to votes, 347 for hillary, 190 for donald trump. Whats the path for trump . Its dark and loney and it doesnt exist, as far as im concerned, but listen, what ryan did was exactly the right thing to do. He knows that he needs some leverage. He wants to endorse him and get something out of him. They will get it. He is going to be for trump when he gets to the convention. What i did not understand is why trumps people dumped on ryan and said he want a good speaker. I mean that was a perfect opportunity the say okay, i understand. We have not gotten along, lets see if we can sit down and iron out some policy differences and i think we can find some common ground. Did he do that . No. He had his spokes group say he was a lousy speaker. The other thing is that trump looks out of the crowds and thinks thats americans. Its a small sliver of this electorate. Hes gotten 10 million votes. He needs 60 million or 70 million to win. He has not gotten that. No way. Here is the problem. That maybe the way that some people look at it. I look at it and i see the unions that are coming out out and supporting trump. You have the Service Employees international union, they were supporting trump. Their president came out and said she was very concerned that trump would win the general election because of union support. And thats what Ronald Reagan got from the teamsters. Bob beckel, you talk about trump looking out at rallies and saying things. He has a new nickname for a player in the race, elizabeth warren. Listen to what the donald said to the senator of massachusetts. I just learned that crooked hillary, along with her friend, you know shes got this goofy friend named elizabeth warren, shes on a twitter rant, shes a goofus, shes a goofus. Ever see her . This woman, shes a basket case. Beckel, i havent heard goofus since seventh or eighth grade. Me neither. Say it. Every time that he does this he goes out and campaigns for hillary. Do you realize that all of the people out there are furious with trump and going to be out there beating him up, including Bernie Sanders. I tell you, you know, with respect to the employees Service Employees, thats who trumps casinos, union employees, no other unions going to go with him. This guys going to get trumped. Trumped by trump. The union worker that work for him are the ones supporting him. That speaks volume. E. D. Why is it so effective when its lyin ted, little marco, doofus, crooked, so forth . He has an era ten u eighted to what is his constituency wants to hear. You know what, there are a lot of americans who have teenagers and if you have a teenager you hear them say something, it hits the sky, next day its the best friend again. A lot of us take that with a grain of salt. When i look at it, i dont think that, but it made me chuckle. Its silly. Here is what it made me think. It made me think presuming that secretary clinton who is the nominee, among the chief criteria for her in selecting a vp needs to be someone who is willing to go out and take him on. You know that labor secretary thomas perez, bob beckel, is now on that short list or so it is said. I just asked him how he would pursue that role. Watch this you are the secretary of labor, here in your personal capacity, we make that clear. Theres a show on tv dirty jobs ever seen it. No, i havent. No im too busy working and coach my kids. Its a Television Show on people that do dirty jobs. It seems to me that her pick for vp, one of the criteria is the dirty job of getting in the ring with him constantly. Are you up for that task . Well, i have had a lot of time working on the gak of a trash truck and im proud of all of 0 jobs ive had. What every job is entitled to in the country is dignity. Mr. Beckel, he once worked on the back of a trash truck. That could be Good Practice for whats coming. I did, too. I got fired, but i worked on it. The idea of taking hispanics is so typical of the democratic party. We have to get out of this in identity politics. Theres one person that he needs to get and their shared brown from ohio. He is a pit bull and will take after trump. He should. Trump does not have all of these munchkins on stage. Hes going to have a serious player and Hillary Clinton who will i think debate him very well. But out there, hes going to have barack obama, joe biden, elizabeth warren, i mean, this guys picking up more candidates to go out and beat him up than anybody ive ever seen. I have to say this, to bobs point, i had a poll on my website, no science, but plenty of intuition and i asked people who listen to the Radio Program and if you could take obama or any one of the five, before kasich and cruz dropped out, i put up the result, 70 30 with more than 2500 votes cast said id take obama before any of the others, r or d. Do you see obamas numbers continue to rise the further the come pain goes on yeah, but people are not going to have obama to vote for. Its going to be clinton. Clinton is going to have to run to the wing to try to win a general election. Its going to be a disaster. I was thinking about it as she starts to bring up fewer people as the potential for vp or surrogates do, what about a trump condi rice combo . Assuming shed be willing. Part of the issue is, you think she would. Absolutely. The question is who wants to do . We know a lot of people that dont want to do it. If you have National Aspirations and want to get with donald trump and thats the legacy. She wants to the nfl commissioner. My dear friend, that was a good job. You did as good spin as you could. Lets face it. Its a tough sell. Its a tough sell. On behalf of myself and party, i feel badly for you. You take perez and try to sell why free trade deals are working for american unions, youve got a tough job. E. D. Hillary clinton, bob beckel, im glad we solved that. Thank you both for being here. To you at home keep the tweets coming. How did trumps taco bowl tweet fly with hispanics. I am going ask the former mexican president. Taco bowl, are we good now. My compliments to the drugdealing rapists who made the taco bowl. Excuse me. Excuse me. I see why he likes them. Its like him, its a slump inside of an orange shell. I get it. 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Crest hd. 6x cleaning, 6x whitening i would switch to crest hd over what i was using before. Trumps kneer to notorious issue. He said, quote, the best taco bowls are made in trump tower grille. I love hispanics. Despite the tweet, he was still stumping for the wall. You dont have a border or a country. I want people to come in, but they have to come in legally and come into a country legally. The wall is going to be built and mexico is going to be paying for the wall. You may remember this memorable tirade by one prominent hispanic, vicente fox, about the wall building plan. I declare, im not going to pay for that [ bleep ] wall. He should pay for it. Hes got the money. I thought i better check in with the former mexican president vincente fox. Mr. President , it sounds like its not just a financial objection that you have, that you dont like the consent of the wall. Heres donald trump a few days ago on the money issue. Vincente fox coming up, got any message for the former president of mexico . Yeah, get the money ready because youre going to pay for the wall. Mr. President , sounds like money aside, youre going to pay. You dont think that it serves a purpose. Yeah, that is no case. But let me tell you something here, michael. Let me show you this, this is a donald trump tie. Maybe its not close enough but but its donald trump trademark tie. And then you see here that its made in china. So what is the integrity of this man . What is the consistency of his positions when he is importing a pair of goods, ties, shirts and to benefit his trump business and, of course, canceling u. S. Jobs by importing ties from china . Hes not committing with his promise to u. S. Workers that he will defend jobs. This is the worst thing that you can do, and hes doing it every day. Mr. President , i think so much of this conversation, so much of this debate rises and falls based on his personality. But i think of the 10. 6 million americans who believe in donald trump and presumably they want that wall built. Its not just donald trump, he is mobilized a significant number of americans that wish for him to do this. He is appealing to fear. Yes, Many Americans who seen september 11th are acting on their fear. Fear is not a good adviser. Thats why trump show that is he is superman and going to defend the nation and throw bombs to the rest of the world and hes going to close and build walls to isolate this nation and supports that he protected. Mr. President a critic said had not 8 million of your citizens crosses in our country on your sixyear watch, donald trump wouldnt be in this position today. Its a market problem. We do have problems in mexico that were trying to solve. First of all, we Work Together with the United States everyday to make that border safe and secure. Number two is that we work every day building opportunities for our people, and this is the reason why in the last three years there are more mexicans coming back into mexico than those coming in. He is going against all economic good policy. So being a good businessman is is not being a president. A president you need a compassion nate leadership, somebody that knows how to be firm when you need, and also when you have to have a big heart and big way of relating yourself with the rest of the world and thats why we outside of the United States dont go along with him. But thats why Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States because shes a loving, tender mother with citizens. She has a soft compassion inside but she also is iron lady. She can be firm when it is needed. Are you prepared to travel within the United States and campaign for Hillary Clinton . For the moment im in california, and im going to appear on both conventions, i think. I have to get a room reserved. Somebody already offered me one. I think its going to be interesting to be there. So you will a

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