The discover it® miles card. Investor, legend. Hawk or dove. President trump said all options are on the table after he calls off a u. S. Strike on iran. We have plenty of time. Is the u. S. Making any headway on containing Irans Nuclear weapons ambitions . Vice president mike pence and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee adam schiff are both here to respond. And deportations delayed. The president postpones a planned raid on migrant families. They will be removed from the country. And gives congress a twoweek deadline to make a deal on asylumseekers as a new report revealed a Health Crisis in migrant Detention Centers. What will it take to improve conditions for children in u. S. Custody . Plus down south. 2020 democrats make nice in South Carolina. Getting to be in the
palmetto. As hopefuls try to win the support of black voters will the current frontrunner keep his place on top. Julien castro joins in moments. Hello, im jake tapper in washington where the State Of The Union is to the brink and back. You might feel whiplash after President Trump changed course on two things, one domestic and one internet. On saturday the president announced hes delays massive deportation after threatening all weekend that millions of undocumented migrants will be removed hours before the raids sr tet to begin. And he said i want to give democrats every last chance to negotiate changes to asylum and loopholes. Probably wont happen and well try. Before two weeks and deportation begins. It comes days after the president seemed to use a similar strategy with iran. Which New York Times journalist peter baker described
as speak loudly and carry a small stick and President Trump said he stopped a Military Strike with just minutes to launch say he did not think the potential Human Casualties inflicteds with proportional to the drowning of a u. S. Drone and the president announced major additional sanctions will be imposed on sunday and they have launched Cyber Attacks in iran last week after iran attacked ships in the gulf of oman and joining me is mike presence. Vice president pence, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you, jake. Good to be with you. Over the weekend the iranians reached out to the u. S. Through the swiss. Have you received that message, has there been any dialogue with iran either directly or through an intermediary since the president called off the strikes. The president s message to iran is very clear. Were not going to allow iran to obtain a Nuclear Weapon. And were not going to stand by
while iran continues to sow malign influence across the region that is why tomorrow the president will announce additional sanctions against iran and frankly as we sit here today, since the end of the iran nuclear deal, now a year ago, and additional sanctions that the United States is imposing, irans economy is crumbling. And over the last two months weve seen then lashing out even more than they usually do. Remember, iran is the leading State Sponsor of terrorism. Sure. In the world. Theyve sewn malign influence in yemen and this president drew an end to them and weve isolated them economically and diplomatically and theyve lashed out, a attack on tanker and the american uav. The drone. And the president made it clear were not going to tolerate any threats against American Forces or american interests, americas allies in the region and well never allow
iran to obtain a Nuclear Weapon. So theyre lashing out. But are they reaching out . Did you get that message from the swiss that the iranians delivered . Im not aware of any outreach from the iranians. I know there was communication Prime Minister abe was in tehran not long ago. And he encouraged them, as President Trump has done publicly, to engage the u. S. Weve made it clear were prepared to talk to iran without preconditions but iran needs to understand well never allow them to obtain a Nuclear Weapon and we will not allow them to continue to sow violence across this region. Let me ask you a question in the midst of that, the actions the president took and the announcement yesterday and the president demonstrated the restraint the American People admire and are grateful for when right up to the runup of a Military Attack the president continued to evaluate that
decision and concluded that what was what had been initiated and about to be launched was not proportionate. Disproportionate, exactly. But that should not be restraint for lack of resolve and all options are on the table and the United States will defend our troops and the region. Your assertion that iran should not mistake that for lack of resolve reminds me of what bolton said not long ago when he said nobody should mistake this as weakness and it makes me wonder if you are concerned it will be perceived that way before the strike, senator Lindsey Graham tweeted, quote, ive found that inaction in The Face Of Evil and provocation ultimately has its own cost in some instances failing to act could prove to be the most dangerous choice of all. And you are initially supported the Military Strike against iran. Do you agree that there is a risk that iran will get the wrong message from the president s restraint as you put it . Well, let me be clear. Ive said before that weakness
arouses evil. But this president has rebuilt our military to the point that the United StatesMilitary Forces in the region and around the world are stronger than ever before. In fact, in the wake of the Tanker Attacks just a week ago, the president announced that were moving another thousand troops into the region. And i expect iran and our allies in the region have no doubt about the military capabilities of the United States of america. But do you warn they worry the president its willing to pull the trigger . Is that a concern at all. I think the president is encouraged that iran announced they are tracking a manned american Surveillance Aircraft on friday and did not fire on it even though they believed it was in their air space. All of that was it in their air space . No. Of course not. All of that gives us some sense that in iran they understand the military capabilities of the United States of america. But this is this is a
president who is always going to count the costs. And i was there through the course of the deliberations, over the last week in the wake of the Tanker Attacks, the president was talking about options in the wake of the attack on the unmanned uav. There were extensive discussions. But at the end of the day, the president looked at the potential loss of human life relative to an Unmanned American drone that had been shot down and concluded that that was not proportionate. But you supported it, though . You supported the strike initially . I well first off, jake, i never talk about my discussions with the president of the United States. Okay. But it has been reported that you and bolton and pompeo all supports the strike. I think all of the National Security team around this president supported providing him with the broadest range of options including the use of Military Force but the president is the one that makes the decision and as he indicated very late in the process, he was
given an estimate that just simply was unacceptable to him. And this is a president , i think i hope this is also a message to the iranian people, this is a president who hopes for the best for the people of iran. It was the United States back in 2009 in the midst of the Green Revolution that you remember, jake, that we stood with and spoke on behalf of the people of iran to establishment of freedom and democracy in iran. We saw protests a year ago, all across this country. I want to ask about something we want the best for the people of iran but well stand up to the ayatollah and stand up to their provocations and iran should never doubt the capabilities of the armed forces of the United States. You said President Trump got that information late in the process and that confusing to me and to Defense Official i spoke to who said, any Time Military options are presented to the president , the potential casualty assessment, the Battle Assessment is one of the first things that the president would be told. Now President Trump said yesterday that he got, quote, very odd numbers early on in terms of the assessment, the casualty assessment. What does that mean . And why would the president only get the Casualty Numbers as you put it late in the process . What i can tell you without talking about the details of those deliberations, is that the president was provided with Casualty Assessments and a whole range of information. But only at the beginning relative to the beginning. Really throughout. But as the president indicated late in the process, there were more specific projections given to him relative to the targets that he was prepared to use force against and he concluded he concluded it was not a proportionate response to shooting down an Unmanned American aircraft. And also remember the president the president also had doubts as to whether or not
the downing of our Unmanned Aircraft was actually authorized at the highest levels. I i cant speak about intelligence that the United States has with regard to that, but you heard the president reflect openly. There might have been a Rogue General were not convinced that it was authorized at the highest levels. The president put a regard for human life first and also put on the table that we want better for the people of iran. But iran needs to understand that the United States of america will never allow them to obtain a usable Nuclear Weapon. This is the leading State Sponsor of terrorism. And the truth that the world has seen over the last 40 years is that the ayatollahs in iran have no regard for human life. They sow terrorism around the region and around the world. Would you sit down and it is unacceptable to ever obtain a Nuclear Weapon as a threat to us, to our ally israel or to the wider world. Would the United States sit down with the iranians with no preconditions to end the iranian Nuclear Weapons program . No, i think the president made it clear hes more than prepared. With no preconditions . To have discussions with no preconditions with the iranians. But the one precondition is well that is a precondition. That they need to give up the Nuclear Weapons. That is a precondition. We hear iran talking about within days theyll begin to enri enrich uranium beyond the negotiations. People understand, this is not about oil. The attack on the tank the tankers in the straits, we get less than 10 of our oil from the persian gulf these days because frankly were one of the leading exporters of energy in the world. I want to get to immigration but china and india and other countries depend on that. This is about the safety and security of the United States. Right. Israel and our allies around the world and well never allow iran to obtain a Nuclear Weapon and continue to bring economic, diplomatic pressure to bear and make it very clear that the United States military will defend our personnel and defend our interest in the region. Right. So lets talk about immigration because President Trump is and tweeting about that, Family Deportation were set to begin in major u. S. Cities today. President trump tweeted yesterday that he would delay them, quote, to see if the democrats and republicans can get together and work out a solution to the asylum and Loophole Problems at the southern border. What exactly does the president want to see in a deal that would prevent these these deportations . Jake, we have a crisis on our southern border. Right. I was down there a few short months ago and i was at a Detention Center. We are on track this year to have more than a Million People come into our country illegally. And for the first time ever, the vast majority of them are people
that are bringing minor children children, yeah. I want to talk about that. And people that are exploiting what wellknown loopholes in our laws that say if you arrive with a minor that you can only be detained for 20 days and after which youre essentially released into the country. Because of the florist decision. You know that 90plus percent of the people who apply for asylum are denied and they dont have a claim for asylum. So the president took steps earlier this year to declare a national emergency. Were building a wall what does he want with with the asylum laws . What does he want changed with the asylum laws . We want to end the days where people believe they could come into the country, make a claim of asylum from depression or deprivation or violence in Central America or elsewhere and then be released into the country on their own recognizance only to vanish into
the nation with now this the president most of them do show up to the hearings. The laws that 90 of the people never show up for the hearing in the months ahead. I dont think that number is accurate. 90 not showing up. A majority do show up. They all should show up. It should be 100 . It is not true. People with a hearing that is scheduled six months or a year or 18 months later, the overwhelming majority, plus 90 dont show up. And people in Central America know this. Ive been down to those countries known as the northern triangle, i have talked to the leaders of those countries on many occasions, Human Traffickers are taking 5,000 cash per person to entice people to take Vulnerable Children on a long and dangerous journey. Right. People are being hurt on both sides of the border. Lets talk about the kids. I want to talk about the kids. But that is why the president is continued to call on congress right. He said to give them another two weeks and before wein ganl in the deportation. For the humanitarian aid. But lets reform our asylum laws and get additional humanitarian support to deal with the influx. And that money is going through congress right now. Over the last week Legal Advocates reported horrific conditions for children at the border, at the same time the prupgs w the Trump Administration was arguing they should not be obligated give soap or showers and take a look at this clip from judge. If you dont a toothbrush, if you dont have soap, if you dont have a blanket, it is not safe and sanityary. Wouldnt everybody agree to that . Do you agree with that . Well, i think its i think those are there is fair reason to find that those things may be part of not may be. Are a part. Are toothbrushes and blanket and medicine basic conditions for kids . Arent they a part of how the United States of america, the Trump Administration treated children . Well of course they are, jake. The lawyer was arguing. I cant speak to what that lawyer was saying. One of the reasons we asked for more bed space. When we were negotiating with congress no, when we were negotiating during the government shutdown, democrats in congress refused to expand the bed space and the capacity for us to detain people. This is going on right now. It is one of the reasons we continue to call on congress to give dhs and Border ProtectionAdditional Resources at the border. This is the wealthiest nation in the world and we have money to give blankets and soap to the kids in el paso county, right now we do. Of course we do. So why arent we . My point is it is all a part of the appropriations, Congress Needs to provide Additional Support to deal with the crisis at the southern border but we have to get to the