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For the day about half an hour ago. Thats good, right to cnns Brynn Gingras in new yorks is outside the court. Brynn, what are you hearing . Why are they still in session there . Still trying to find that jury, jake, you know, at the beginning of the day, it was unclear if there was going to be a single juror seated. And now by today, at this moment, there are six that are seeded, included putting a fourperson so the process is continuing at this very hour. Some of the details about the six people that we know about so far. Of course, they remain anonymous, but one is originally from ireland, that person is already declared The Foreperson when this case goes to trial, theres an and khaliji nurse. Theres a corporate lawyer, theres one person who actually told the courtroom that he found trump fascinating. Theres another person who says that they appreciate trumps candor but didnt really have Strong Political views all different ages, marriage, not married, Group Ofeople that are rht of, now sittinon the jury nd before that, though, there was quite a process, wknow that the jurors who went through this process, how to sw 42 questis, you whereid they get their news from . What sort of have gone to a trump ralls, sort of those questions. But after that, ths when both the prosecution and trumps atrneys could really a deeper questions to gesome answers. Well, they d that and Thenfter Short Break and courts ttrumps atrneys came back and its clear that they were digging through the social medias of some of these people who were perspective the jurors in one case, thound that one juror had put on facebook to lock him up. He was dismissed on caused by the judge, another juror. There was Video Ofhat Man somewhat celebrating in video posted to facebook when joe biden won the elecon in 2020. And that person w dmissed. Bye, bye president , by the former president s attorneys. But all in all, remember they each side has ten strikes. And so far were the numbers trumps team has struck four jurors prosecutors have struck three. Jake, this is a continuing process right now. Were going late because theyre continuing with more jurors of brush group of 96 people went into the pornhub and theyre starting that process, but likely well be wrapping up soon. But jake, big news here are six jurors now seated for this criminal trial and bread at brynn. Judge Merchan Minus donald trump at one point, what happened yeah, this was in that problem a question about their social media and trump had a, what were being told is visible and somewhat audible reaction to this persons answer once that prospective juror left the courtroom, the judge immediately told trumps attorneys to basically keep control of him. He said, quote, i will not have german jurors intimidated in my courtroom. So certainly got a scolding their for the most part, though, jake trump has been very much involved at sometime and hes sitting back, leaning back and listening, but he has been corresponding with his Defense Attorneys throughout this entire process. All right. Brian, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Lets discuss it all with former federal prosecutor, jean rossi. Hes the former assistant us attorney in the Eastern District of the great Commonwealth Of Virginia. So genes six jurors have been seated. The trump team has frustrated one juror was dismissed today for having a Pro Trump Bias there. Theyre upset about that because there already afraid that the heavily democratic makeup of manhattan is not going to work in their favor well do you think their goal is . To find the fairest jury possible is their goal ultimately to find at least one person that could deadlock the jury. I dont think theyre shooting for an acquittal. I think theyre trying to get one, two, or three jurors that will hang. And hes the goal of any prosecutor, defen attorney wther s a civil case or criminal case. You want a juror that can put aside their biases and prejudices, their ases for trump or prejudagnst them, and apply the law to the facts as they see them. And they haveo focus on that mission like a laser beam, both sides. But got to tell you this. If i were person in trump i see encouraging signs that he could possibly get a fair and impartial actively fair and impartial juror. And for the prosecution. This is moving much faster than i thought. I thought this would be a twoweek process and its possible we could have open we need statements this coming monday. Interesting, lets play a little game with hypothetical seat the journey of that, where you examine what some potential juror said today in court. And, judge, what you thought. Of what they said. So trump elicit one potential jurors view about donald trump. What do you think donaltrump and the man said, my view doesnt matter, quote if we were sitting in a bar, id be happy to tell you. But in this room what i feel about President Trump is not important or imperative. He then acknowledged that he was a democrat, which is something that just a matter of Public Record would you if you were on trumps team, would you seat that person . I would probably ibm echo poise, but i love that jurors response that gives me a hope that we have a fair trial here. Thats what theyre supposed to thing. I know. But the way this jurors said it to me, i think destroyed really meant it. And this is what i love about trials, or done almost 100 jury trials when a jurors getting a jury box and closed and its only the jge to participants in the audience. I love when jurors are able put out all the crowd noise, the noise on the street, and focus on what comes out of the witness box and what the documents show. That is a beautiful thing, and thats ing to happen here where they can just put everything aside and just focus on the facts as they see him. Its a beautiful part of the criminal justice process. So another potential juror works with the bronx District Attorney says he knows that the Manhattan Deray is going to have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. He notes that he has, quote, a lot of friends and Law Enforcement who are pro trump, but he says he doesnt have an opinion himself about national politics. What do you think if youre from the trump team gone . Okay, first off, i dont want this is a prosecutor. You said i dont want attorneys on my jury. Yeah, it works for the bronx District Attorney, but yeah. I mean, i well, hes affiliated right i would strike him in a news because hes affiliated with the prosecutor, a new york minute, he would be struck if i were trump heres some others, some interesting ones. So these are people who were seated the firstseeded juror, The Foreperson, a man originally from ireland. He works in sales. He has some college education, married, no kids. Reason New York Times and the daily mail watches some fox news and msnbc i would probably keep him if i were trump. Thats not a bad juror. I think this person could look at the evidence and be fair that one id keep somebody who watches fox and msnbc is intriguing. Well, theyre ambidextrous the fifth juror, these are people who are already seated. These ones that are hurting right now a young black woman, she teaches english language in a public charter school. She has a masters in education, unmarried, no kids. She says is a person of color. She has friends who have strong opinions on trumpet personally, shes not political. She says she tried to avoid political conversations, doesnt read the news, didnt know that trump is under trial and other and other jurisdictions. And in terms of trumps candy there, she said, quote, President Trump speaks his mind. And id rather, that than somebody who is an office who dont know what theyre thinking, shes seated. Okay. Thats President Trump really yes. And when i had my oath keeper trial, there were jurors that really didnt know what happened on january 6, believe it or not. And the trial was in dc this person puts aside all the crowd noise, only focus on. And shes not influenced by the judge, Aileen Cannon or the other two cases beyond the new york city walls. So third c to jurors, a corporate lawyer originally from oregon he gets his news from the newk mes, the walstreet journal, and google. Unger man, no wife, no husba, no kids. Okay. I would say thats leaning towards trump. If i had a bat just because because while i Wall Street Journal yeah, reason Wall Street Journal, whilst returned and he has no kids and i got to trump r his ouagusness, like his availability to spea his mindthas a juror that may lean posbly a towardtrump. Heres another one thats interesting Olpuerto Rican man married with Adult Children and grandkids when asked aut his hobbies, he says, guess it business for training and n consulting. You did one year of finds trump fascinating and people are set off one w or the other, and that this is int of this. Wow he said trump quote mas things intesting. He said he doesnt have any strong feelings abouhis litics i would say thats a good juror for donald trump because because the jurs that you should want on this panenot only ones, theyre going to be fair and impartial, but the oneshat dont hate tru th are fascinated by trump annet appreciate that hes frank and open about his feelings, whether you agree with them or fervently sagreethose are the ones you want. Ascinating stuff. All right, well thats st the first you back there is mo generoty. Ankso much appreciated as trump again today rails against this Ce Oblem This Cascoulpose Ical with so Many American voters, not ally paying attention to whats going on new ally in the fight against climate change. This is in car business blue carbon. We just need to protect nature will do the rest. Corbin plus cnn fill sunday at nine hey, theyre brenda. Its carroll exactly. So which like are we operating on . You mean arm . 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Nobodys going to be a full ficus in my house. We could use open door, sell your house directly to them see me i guess were moving. Can you go ask me about next practice after last months massive solar flare added a 24 hour to the day, businesses are wondering what should we do with bacon and eggs 2057, your daughter, right so response from 20 the present would be additional hours with the extra hour, im thinking up the white power now, lets put it through a book this is going to wreak havoc on overtime approvals anything can change the world of work from hr to payroll adp designs forwardthinking solutions to take on the next, anything im Zachary Cohen in washington and this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by mesobook. Com if you or a loved one have Mesothelial Mac will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and well come to you they dont relate to one 4,000 right now. Court is running longer than expected in new york city, were Jury Selection is underway and Donald Trumps hush money Cover Up Case six, jurors have been seated other potential jurors are being questioned right now. Dan pfeiffer joins us now, heres a former Obama White House Communications Director and cohost of pod save america, de and good to see it. So some republicans say, no ones going to care, even if Donald Trumps found guilty since its a Democratic Da in a liberal city on the other hand, you have democrats worrying that trump is teflon. You disagree with both. You say, quote, neither candidate can afford to lose voters. Thats even more true for trump. Who came up short last time, he must clean to every vote from his former presidency and fine Tens Of Thousands more. Its absurd to believe a criminal conviction does it make that task more challenging . Quote. So you think the trial or the conviction is going to hurt him both or just to convince the trial theres no theres an opportunity cost. Right . Right now, donald trump is sitting at a Defendant Table in manhattan mole joe biden is campaigning on the academy in scranton, pennsylvania that hurts trump. Being in the news has generally been dead for trump since he left the white house. The more people see trump, the less comfortable they are with him coming back to the white house and now hes seen a highprofile trial where he has to be in Court Every Single Day or be arrested in the Media Capital of the world. I conviction would hurt him even more, obviously, right . And the people who say that voters dont care arent reading the polls. Because in the New York Times poll that came out this weekend, 23 of republicans, sorry, 23 of trumps 2020 voters, people who voted for him in 2020 say that the charges in this trial are very serious. This particular transaction this particular travel paying Hush Money Payments to Stormy Daniels is the way theyve raised a question and so even if a fraction of those people decide, most of them come home to trouble. Of course we even a fraction of them stay home or vote for biden. Thats ball game in an election this close, do you think as a political observer, as somebody who obviously wants to buy into, when do you think that one . These cases is more serious than the other . And how concerned are you about the fact that i dont know that theyre going to be any other trials other than this one, right . Right. If you if i was rank ordering, which of trumps very serious crimes id like to see and be held accountable before before the election common sense and the polling shows that voters are most concerned about january, the january 6 trial, what he did to try to overturn the election second is heights is abscondees from the white house with Nuclear Secrets and hiding them in your beach house. Thats also very serious. This is probably the less serious of them, but the polls show people still take it very seriously. And in the exit polls from the republican primary, they just ask people, republican primary voters will you would you see down trump is fit for the presidency if hes convicted of a crime not eating these specific crimes. And around 30 of them said no, thats a problem for trump, but just has to be do you why do you think joe biden is . I know the polls have narrowed even the New York Times poll that was problematic for him a few, about a month ago, has, has narrowed. But why do you think it is still . Well such a struggle for joe biden to put this away given all of Donald Trumps weaknesses and all of these trials if the economy it is absolutely economy. And in that near time, scroll down, trump is 68, 63 point advantage on economic approval comparing how people felt about the economy during trumps rosen lets see, and bidens presidency, its everyones number one issue and why the economy, its specifically is inflation, the cost of, Cost Of Living in the cost of groceries, and present binds gonna have to make a case as to why hes gonna be better deal with that, then trump. But that is what is profit trump up . Its these Brynn Gingras<\/a> in new yorks is outside the court. Brynn, what are you hearing . Why are they still in session there . Still trying to find that jury, jake, you know, at the beginning of the day, it was unclear if there was going to be a single juror seated. And now by today, at this moment, there are six that are seeded, included putting a fourperson so the process is continuing at this very hour. Some of the details about the six people that we know about so far. Of course, they remain anonymous, but one is originally from ireland, that person is already declared The Foreperson<\/a> when this case goes to trial, theres an and khaliji nurse. Theres a corporate lawyer, theres one person who actually told the courtroom that he found trump fascinating. Theres another person who says that they appreciate trumps candor but didnt really have Strong Political<\/a> views all different ages, marriage, not married, Group Ofeople<\/a> that are rht of, now sittinon the jury nd before that, though, there was quite a process, wknow that the jurors who went through this process, how to sw 42 questis, you whereid they get their news from . What sort of have gone to a trump ralls, sort of those questions. But after that, ths when both the prosecution and trumps atrneys could really a deeper questions to gesome answers. Well, they d that and Thenfter Short Break<\/a> and courts ttrumps atrneys came back and its clear that they were digging through the social medias of some of these people who were perspective the jurors in one case, thound that one juror had put on facebook to lock him up. He was dismissed on caused by the judge, another juror. There was Video Ofhat Man<\/a> somewhat celebrating in video posted to facebook when joe biden won the elecon in 2020. And that person w dmissed. Bye, bye president , by the former president s attorneys. But all in all, remember they each side has ten strikes. And so far were the numbers trumps team has struck four jurors prosecutors have struck three. Jake, this is a continuing process right now. Were going late because theyre continuing with more jurors of brush group of 96 people went into the pornhub and theyre starting that process, but likely well be wrapping up soon. But jake, big news here are six jurors now seated for this criminal trial and bread at brynn. Judge Merchan Minus<\/a> donald trump at one point, what happened yeah, this was in that problem a question about their social media and trump had a, what were being told is visible and somewhat audible reaction to this persons answer once that prospective juror left the courtroom, the judge immediately told trumps attorneys to basically keep control of him. He said, quote, i will not have german jurors intimidated in my courtroom. So certainly got a scolding their for the most part, though, jake trump has been very much involved at sometime and hes sitting back, leaning back and listening, but he has been corresponding with his Defense Attorneys<\/a> throughout this entire process. All right. Brian, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Lets discuss it all with former federal prosecutor, jean rossi. Hes the former assistant us attorney in the Eastern District<\/a> of the great Commonwealth Of Virginia<\/a>. So genes six jurors have been seated. The trump team has frustrated one juror was dismissed today for having a Pro Trump Bias<\/a> there. Theyre upset about that because there already afraid that the heavily democratic makeup of manhattan is not going to work in their favor well do you think their goal is . To find the fairest jury possible is their goal ultimately to find at least one person that could deadlock the jury. I dont think theyre shooting for an acquittal. I think theyre trying to get one, two, or three jurors that will hang. And hes the goal of any prosecutor, defen attorney wther s a civil case or criminal case. You want a juror that can put aside their biases and prejudices, their ases for trump or prejudagnst them, and apply the law to the facts as they see them. And they haveo focus on that mission like a laser beam, both sides. But got to tell you this. If i were person in trump i see encouraging signs that he could possibly get a fair and impartial actively fair and impartial juror. And for the prosecution. This is moving much faster than i thought. I thought this would be a twoweek process and its possible we could have open we need statements this coming monday. Interesting, lets play a little game with hypothetical seat the journey of that, where you examine what some potential juror said today in court. And, judge, what you thought. Of what they said. So trump elicit one potential jurors view about donald trump. What do you think donaltrump and the man said, my view doesnt matter, quote if we were sitting in a bar, id be happy to tell you. But in this room what i feel about President Trump<\/a> is not important or imperative. He then acknowledged that he was a democrat, which is something that just a matter of Public Record<\/a> would you if you were on trumps team, would you seat that person . I would probably ibm echo poise, but i love that jurors response that gives me a hope that we have a fair trial here. Thats what theyre supposed to thing. I know. But the way this jurors said it to me, i think destroyed really meant it. And this is what i love about trials, or done almost 100 jury trials when a jurors getting a jury box and closed and its only the jge to participants in the audience. I love when jurors are able put out all the crowd noise, the noise on the street, and focus on what comes out of the witness box and what the documents show. That is a beautiful thing, and thats ing to happen here where they can just put everything aside and just focus on the facts as they see him. Its a beautiful part of the criminal justice process. So another potential juror works with the bronx District Attorney<\/a> says he knows that the Manhattan Deray<\/a> is going to have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. He notes that he has, quote, a lot of friends and Law Enforcement<\/a> who are pro trump, but he says he doesnt have an opinion himself about national politics. What do you think if youre from the trump team gone . Okay, first off, i dont want this is a prosecutor. You said i dont want attorneys on my jury. Yeah, it works for the bronx District Attorney<\/a>, but yeah. I mean, i well, hes affiliated right i would strike him in a news because hes affiliated with the prosecutor, a new york minute, he would be struck if i were trump heres some others, some interesting ones. So these are people who were seated the firstseeded juror, The Foreperson<\/a>, a man originally from ireland. He works in sales. He has some college education, married, no kids. Reason New York Times<\/a> and the daily mail watches some fox news and msnbc i would probably keep him if i were trump. Thats not a bad juror. I think this person could look at the evidence and be fair that one id keep somebody who watches fox and msnbc is intriguing. Well, theyre ambidextrous the fifth juror, these are people who are already seated. These ones that are hurting right now a young black woman, she teaches english language in a public charter school. She has a masters in education, unmarried, no kids. She says is a person of color. She has friends who have strong opinions on trumpet personally, shes not political. She says she tried to avoid political conversations, doesnt read the news, didnt know that trump is under trial and other and other jurisdictions. And in terms of trumps candy there, she said, quote, President Trump<\/a> speaks his mind. And id rather, that than somebody who is an office who dont know what theyre thinking, shes seated. Okay. Thats President Trump<\/a> really yes. And when i had my oath keeper trial, there were jurors that really didnt know what happened on january 6, believe it or not. And the trial was in dc this person puts aside all the crowd noise, only focus on. And shes not influenced by the judge, Aileen Cannon<\/a> or the other two cases beyond the new york city walls. So third c to jurors, a corporate lawyer originally from oregon he gets his news from the newk mes, the walstreet journal, and google. Unger man, no wife, no husba, no kids. Okay. I would say thats leaning towards trump. If i had a bat just because because while i Wall Street Journal<\/a> yeah, reason Wall Street Journal<\/a>, whilst returned and he has no kids and i got to trump r his ouagusness, like his availability to spea his mindthas a juror that may lean posbly a towardtrump. Heres another one thats interesting Olpuerto Rican<\/a> man married with Adult Children<\/a> and grandkids when asked aut his hobbies, he says, guess it business for training and n consulting. You did one year of finds trump fascinating and people are set off one w or the other, and that this is int of this. Wow he said trump quote mas things intesting. He said he doesnt have any strong feelings abouhis litics i would say thats a good juror for donald trump because because the jurs that you should want on this panenot only ones, theyre going to be fair and impartial, but the oneshat dont hate tru th are fascinated by trump annet appreciate that hes frank and open about his feelings, whether you agree with them or fervently sagreethose are the ones you want. Ascinating stuff. All right, well thats st the first you back there is mo generoty. Ankso much appreciated as trump again today rails against this Ce Oblem This Cascoulpose Ical<\/a> with so Many American<\/a> voters, not ally paying attention to whats going on new ally in the fight against climate change. This is in car business blue carbon. We just need to protect nature will do the rest. Corbin plus cnn fill sunday at nine hey, theyre brenda. Its carroll exactly. So which like are we operating on . You mean arm . Its all connected, asking the right question can greatly impact your future. You share your an orthopedist. Actually, im a sagittarius, especially when it comes to your finances give a question. Are us Financial Planner<\/a> yes. Im a Cfp Professional<\/a> Cop Professionals<\/a> are committed to acting in your best interest. Thats why its gotta be a cfp bind your Cfp Professional<\/a>, and lets make a plan doubt or whoa. Whoa how i can home she had warranty. I can reject youre cupboard home systems and appliances like this whenever a replacement. Yes. Thank you its not home. Yeah, its pretty sure its home. American home shield. Dont worry, be warranty freeze, dryness breakage, new dove, ten and ones serum hair mask with peptide complex four vice hair bonds at a molecular level helps reverse ten signs of damage in one minute, keep Living Real Key<\/a>, preparing sarlin businesses never easy. The star new eight months pregnant, thats a different story with the chase inke cart, we got up and running in no time earn unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, Chase Ink Business Unlimited<\/a> car from Chase For Business<\/a>. Whenever get a pool with dr. Time, youll get the real deal time real deal breaker lets you customize the real down payment and Monthly Payment<\/a> of the car you want to buy it . So smart and the deal you make on your phone is the deal you paid get the real deal had tried to him that calm when we say it will be on time, they expect it to be on time it turns shipping to your advantage, keep those expectations with reliable Ground Shipping<\/a> thanks, brandon. With usps ground advantage . Everybody kept kept. Can i get a response to the trade rumors straight . Rays means moving were talking about moving moving main contractors inspectors, strangers, judging my carpet. Well, we talking about staging we talking about a full ficus of faux ficus. Nobodys going to be a full ficus in my house. We could use open door, sell your house directly to them see me i guess were moving. Can you go ask me about next practice after last months massive solar flare added a 24 hour to the day, businesses are wondering what should we do with bacon and eggs 2057, your daughter, right so response from 20 the present would be additional hours with the extra hour, im thinking up the white power now, lets put it through a book this is going to wreak havoc on overtime approvals anything can change the world of work from hr to payroll adp designs forwardthinking solutions to take on the next, anything im Zachary Cohen<\/a> in washington and this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by mesobook. Com if you or a loved one have Mesothelial Mac<\/a> will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and well come to you they dont relate to one 4,000 right now. Court is running longer than expected in new york city, were Jury Selection<\/a> is underway and Donald Trumps<\/a> hush money Cover Up Case<\/a> six, jurors have been seated other potential jurors are being questioned right now. Dan pfeiffer joins us now, heres a former Obama White House<\/a> Communications Director<\/a> and cohost of pod save america, de and good to see it. So some republicans say, no ones going to care, even if Donald Trumps<\/a> found guilty since its a Democratic Da<\/a> in a liberal city on the other hand, you have democrats worrying that trump is teflon. You disagree with both. You say, quote, neither candidate can afford to lose voters. Thats even more true for trump. Who came up short last time, he must clean to every vote from his former presidency and fine Tens Of Thousands<\/a> more. Its absurd to believe a criminal conviction does it make that task more challenging . Quote. So you think the trial or the conviction is going to hurt him both or just to convince the trial theres no theres an opportunity cost. Right . Right now, donald trump is sitting at a Defendant Table<\/a> in manhattan mole joe biden is campaigning on the academy in scranton, pennsylvania that hurts trump. Being in the news has generally been dead for trump since he left the white house. The more people see trump, the less comfortable they are with him coming back to the white house and now hes seen a highprofile trial where he has to be in Court Every Single Day<\/a> or be arrested in the Media Capital<\/a> of the world. I conviction would hurt him even more, obviously, right . And the people who say that voters dont care arent reading the polls. Because in the New York Times<\/a> poll that came out this weekend, 23 of republicans, sorry, 23 of trumps 2020 voters, people who voted for him in 2020 say that the charges in this trial are very serious. This particular transaction this particular travel paying Hush Money Payments<\/a> to Stormy Daniels<\/a> is the way theyve raised a question and so even if a fraction of those people decide, most of them come home to trouble. Of course we even a fraction of them stay home or vote for biden. Thats ball game in an election this close, do you think as a political observer, as somebody who obviously wants to buy into, when do you think that one . These cases is more serious than the other . And how concerned are you about the fact that i dont know that theyre going to be any other trials other than this one, right . Right. If you if i was rank ordering, which of trumps very serious crimes id like to see and be held accountable before before the election common sense and the polling shows that voters are most concerned about january, the january 6 trial, what he did to try to overturn the election second is heights is abscondees from the white house with Nuclear Secrets<\/a> and hiding them in your beach house. Thats also very serious. This is probably the less serious of them, but the polls show people still take it very seriously. And in the exit polls from the republican primary, they just ask people, republican primary voters will you would you see down trump is fit for the presidency if hes convicted of a crime not eating these specific crimes. And around 30 of them said no, thats a problem for trump, but just has to be do you why do you think joe biden is . I know the polls have narrowed even the New York Times<\/a> poll that was problematic for him a few, about a month ago, has, has narrowed. But why do you think it is still . Well such a struggle for joe biden to put this away given all of Donald Trumps<\/a> weaknesses and all of these trials if the economy it is absolutely economy. And in that near time, scroll down, trump is 68, 63 point advantage on economic approval comparing how people felt about the economy during trumps rosen lets see, and bidens presidency, its everyones number one issue and why the economy, its specifically is inflation, the cost of, Cost Of Living<\/a> in the cost of groceries, and present binds gonna have to make a case as to why hes gonna be better deal with that, then trump. But that is what is profit trump up . Its these System Estadio<\/a> for the cost of eggs and milk from 2019 is the foundation of his success. Whether that will remain true as more and more voters tune into this election and learn more about what hes saying and doing every day is an open question. But as of right now, that is what is keeping him a float and do you agree with the comments that ron klain . Was recorded and political reported on former white house Chief Of Staff<\/a> for biden, ron klain, that he thinks biden his quote, out there talking too much about bridges, unquote and not enough about milk and eggs and rising daytoday prices. Do you agree with that that he needs to be talking more about groceries and stuff. You know what i mean cost stuff . Yes, i do. Yeah. I agree with rons followup to politico after they found that recording that since the state of the union, the president has had a very middleclass focus message that talks about the Cost Of Living<\/a>. I think he should do that. What he did today in scranton was very good. Infrastructure is one of those issues. Its a huge accomplishment for the president. Its worse place where he succeeded and trump failed. It is often one of the issues that voters say they care about, but isnt a major driver of their decision on whom to vote for. But going forward, doing what he did in the state of the union, doing what he did today, drawing a sharp contrast between who trump is gonna cut taxes for, who Buck Joe Biden<\/a> is going to fight for. That is the right thing to do. I think theyre on the right path right now. Dan pfeiffer, good to see you. Thanks for coming by. Appreciate it to capitol hill next where we watched this dramatic formality House Republicans<\/a> walking over to the us senate, carrying articles of impeachment against the Homeland Security<\/a> secretary Alejandro Mayorkas<\/a>. The device hey, save issue behind this special delivery. Next some people just know that the best rate for you is a rate based on you with all state because theres a right way and the speed limit definitely isnt 700 million miles per hour. So why would you pay a weight based on here . 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Its a third of whats needed for this trial to get underway with 12 jurors and six alternates. In our politics lead this afternoon, House Republicans<\/a> delivered the articles of impeachment against department of Homeland Security<\/a> secretary Alejandro Mayorkas<\/a>, walking them to the us senate, as is customary, republicans are blaming mayorkas for the high number of Border Crossings<\/a> as the Republican Party<\/a> faces pressure from its base to hold the Biden Administration<\/a> even more accountable for that crisis despite clear evidence that his willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law has significantly contributed to unprecedented levels of Illegal Immigrants<\/a> entrance the increased control of the southwest border by drug cartels and the imposition of enormous costs on states and localities affected by the influx of aliens Alejandro Mayorkas<\/a> has continued in his refusal to comply with the law they Democraticcontrolled Senate<\/a> is expected to either dismiss this Impeachment Trial<\/a> right away, or they may holdn abbreviated trial thats Expectedo Wrap<\/a> by the d of the week. Democratic strategist care infineon, former trump white ask Indications Director Mike<\/a> we are backith me and mike, Cabinet Secretarhas<\/a> not been impeached and 150 years. So this is historic. It is. Republicans did the righse thing . And what do you think senateemocrat should do . Well, lete, let me focus on the 21 times that articles of impeachment have been walke across the capital. 21 times. The senate has decided to have a trial. And i think what might be historic here is the senate decides that there not going to have a trial, if they not going to take what the representatives from the house brought over seriously enough to have a conversation about it due i think hell be convicted. Absolutely not. But well look think this is a kay perversion of the constitution. We do not use our constitution to he Policy Disagreements<\/a> about. Also, as i said bore, s this is about dist distract, divide. This is not about, this is a distraction from the fact that they couldnt actually get a deal the things he in that clip that just said it we in the deal that republicans walked showmanship. Is just more this does ce at a time when the house gop is in turmoil there, united on this, for the most part, the most part. But the house gop is in turmoil. And speaker johnson. And now a second republican. Congressman massey is threatening to join Marjorie Taylor<\/a> greene and oust speaker johnson. And im wondering how whether and how you see the mayorkas impeachment in that context. I mean, was this done basically . Just to try to unite the party around something no. I think the border isnt a crisis. No, absolutely not. Earlier, i think others have said that massie and taylorgreene have said that johnsons not conservative enough. This has been something that the more conservative wing of the Republican Party<\/a> has wanted for a while. And under speaker de, the Beans Pitchman<\/a> . Yes. And under speaker johnson, theyve moved forward on this so what im seeing is that individuals picking and choosing what they want him to move forward on and what they dont want him to move forward on. But at the end of the day the aid for ukraine, for israel, for taiwan all of those are policies that the the majority of the republican conference wants to move forward and the speakers reflecting that. So karen, we have a live picture of the manhattan courthouse where Jury Selection<\/a> is running longer than expected. Six jurors have been seated. So far, its want to get your reaction to this moment. Were in selecting jurors for the first criminal trial against a former president i dont know if i have any sodium penta fall, if i had sodium hands up all night, second in your arm, would you admit that you wished it was four maybe dan pfeiffer said like he said, the more important cases, the january 6 case, as opposed to this one sure. But i but wont even need the sodium panel. Didnt need to be honest with you, jake. But at the same time, i do and i think that within all these cases, its important and democrats havent done this, create one narrative about why did they all tell us about what donald trump means . For you, the American Voter<\/a> in my mind, this is the beginning of a pattern we saw that played out in 2020, where trump was willing to do whatever it took to keep information from the American People<\/a> when that could be damaging, when they were making their decision. And i think if you establish it as a fact pattern and in the minds of voters, that becomes a more interesting conversation. Then talking about who he had an affair with and which i think a lot of folks, theyre not interested in that part. Its really about what matters to me in my life. Do you what do you think so, dan pfeiffer, former Communications Director<\/a> for the biden white house. He he was just sean and he said that he thinks anyone saying that these trials arent bad for trump is not telling the truth. Who doesnt read the polls that of course its bad for trump. Its as a game of addition. And these trials dont add any votes what do you think . Well, i can, i can remember another president ial election will had one of the major candidates sitting in a courtroom and the other having to force to use the short stares case on air force, one because of his aides are afraid that hes not gonna be able to make it on the tall staircase stays away. Well your little reference you really need to be. Im sure they have video on that would cause that into not on trial. This was the first are prone did not off yes. Well, one more than the other, but anyway, this is the first this was the first indictment this was the first time that a former president had been indicted. And this is the first trial that were now coming to the fore. I think most legal experts will say that the deray in this in this instance, really is reaching defined a crime but this is the start of a number of trials. And if phi fors point, i would much rather be on a Campaign Trail<\/a> than sitting in a courtroom if i was President Trump<\/a>. Fair enough. Thanks to both you appreciate it. The daily divide Us Supreme Court<\/a> today questioning if prosecutors have appropriately applied one of the charges and some 350 cases related to january takes its a huge question and it could impact the january 6 case involving donald trump plus Scranton Joe Aka<\/a> president joe biden, making a stop at his Childhood Home<\/a> in scranton, pa. Live pictures there. He was found today talking about the economy and taxes. Well be right back smart lander offer the yotam smart protection easy removal, cleaning, and install. It smart its smart, with chase freedom on limits, you can catch back 30 on danny included takeout, cash on flap jacks, maybe back. 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Is there defendants or convicted criminals convicted of crimes carried out duringhe january attack, often Violent Esten<\/a> Violent Crimes<\/a> committ against Police Officers<\/a> tods january 6 oter socalled hostage James Tate Grant<\/a> of carrying north raigh. James tate grant was convicted ofssaulting an dangerous weapon and are ructing an official procdi which is, in Court Cumentshow Grant<\/a> confronting capitol police, trying to man a bike rack, Barricade Ththe Situation<\/a> escalates and fbi investigators as a grant and joined other writs, lifted up the baicade, shoved itt police. Female officeror fell onto the steps hind the inveigat says video shows that grants interferedhen officers tried to apprehend a different writer. Oh, but mr. James, grant was not done then Security Video<\/a> shows he made it into the capital. He climbed through a broken window and grant found the Hideaway Office<\/a> if senator jeff merkley of oregon, yocan see jametake t and screenshot images with other writers, merkley and ma it to safety. But the senator ter toldhe Oregonian Newspaper<\/a> that riders trashed hifice. A judge founjames ta grant guilty this past february of assaulting a Police Officer<\/a> and obstructing an official michelle proceeding. James tate grant. Sentencing is set for june another one of Donald Trumps<\/a> j6 hostages, not hostage, a convicted criminal but as we said, James Tate Grant<\/a> was convicted not only of what he did to that cop, but of obstruction of an official proceeding. And that Charge Obstruction<\/a> of an official proceeding itself is being challenged at the Us Supreme Court<\/a> in oral arguments today, the courts conservative majority seemed skeptical of how prosecutors are using that charge against hundreds of people us capitol on january 6, 2021, a decision against the government by the Us Supreme Court<\/a>. But reopen those cases, it could impact the pending case against former President Trump<\/a>. He is also charged with obstructing an official proceeding cnns Joan Biskupic<\/a> was inside the Us Supreme Court<\/a> today. Joan explain explain the part of this Obstruction Law<\/a> that is in dispute and why some of t justices seemed skeptical, obvusly, they were trying to disrupt the vote count. Actually, you know what . One cond gentleman h come right back to you,ut mr. Trumps about to spe lets play away thank you very much. And we are going to continue our fight against this, judge. We think Totally Colicted<\/a> s a conflicted judge. In over an appeal more conflicted than this one. So well see how that all works at well having a hard. Time with the New York State<\/a> system, its under watch by the whole world. And argued so we we thinke have a very inflicted, highly conflicted, judge. You shouldnt be on the case and hes rushing this trial than just doing as much as he can for the democrats today, biden inspired, which. And it should end, and it should end very quickly. Thank you hi, mr. Trump historically, the first ever former us president to be tried in a criminal case. Hes being prosecuted by the District Attorney<\/a>, alvin bragg. Theories is his comments. After the second day in court john, i rudely interrupted you or facilitated the root interruption of you by someone else why in the Supreme Court<\/a> is hearing this case about whether or not prosecutors are misusing this obstruction of official Proceeding Charge<\/a> obviously, these people were trying to disrupt the vote cats. So whats the issue here . Okay. The issue is that its a 2002 law that was passed in the wake of the enron financial documents scandal. And it says it has two parts of this law says that anybody who corruptly authors of destroys a record or document or other object object two impair its use in official proceeding could be punished, or someone who otherwise of structs influences or any official proceeding or attempts to do so. One side talks about evidence, the other side is broader about any kind of obstruction the Justice Department<\/a> has charged these hundred people hundreds of people well, including former president donald trump, with the second part of this saying obstructing an official proceeding joseph fischer, one of the defendants came to the court today and appeal that saying that you cant use this part of the post enron law unless theres actually some evidence that had been tainted in some way. Now, hes lost in lower courts and here, let me just tell you, first of all, some of the comments that were made. Justices were very skeptical. But heres an example of justice sotomayor, who said that no. Otherwise should it . Give a new kind of claim here . I think we have the sound from her. Yeah. Thats run Joseph Justice<\/a> sotomayor let me give you an example there is a sign on the theater. You will be kicked out of the theater if you photograph or record the actors or otherwise disrupt the performance if you start yelling, i think no one would question that you can be expected to be kicked out under this policy even though yelling has nothing to do with photograph, were recording but actually jake, her view was the minority most of the justices, the conservative justices felt like there had to be a linkage that you had to have if you use Justice Sotomayors<\/a> example, you had to have some server in this what the conservative justices were saying that if anybody is going to be charged under this law. It would have to involve some sort of evidence as in the first part of that statute. Now, lets listen to Brett Kavanaugh<\/a>, who spoke in a way that i think captures what allowed the conservatives felt about the justices going too far. Pardon me, about the Justice Department<\/a> going too far in the charging less Brett Kavanaugh<\/a> theres six other accounts in the indictment here, which includes Civil Disorder Physical Contact<\/a> with the victim, Assault Entering<\/a> and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct, Disorderly Conduct<\/a> in the capital building. And why arent those six counts good enough. Just from the Justice Department<\/a>s perspective, given that they dont have any of the hurdles because those counts dont fully reflect the culpability of Petitioners Conduct<\/a> on january 6, those counts do not require that petitioner have acted corruptly to obstruct an official proceeding are you have to translate that for me . Yes. Her point was representing the department of justice, elizabeth prelogar, that to not be able to use this law would not be able to hold many of the defendants accountable for what they did. They obstruct an official proceeding in the governments mind . And it didnt matter that some evidence was not destroyed freud, in the process and by limiting the governments use of this law, it essentially wont hold to fully account many of these defendants, including donald trump, who is also charged under this logic. Okay. Youre good at reading the court. Do you think that theyre going to side with the capital the january 6 defendants sierra ultimately majority . Yes. Yes. You do. I just want to say it doesnt mean that a bunch of people are going to be set free because many of these people, including joseph fischer, who came there to were charged with other things . Yes. Exactly. They are charged with other things where it might need maintenance. Theyre just going to serve less prison time. And it could complicated many cases, including the form more president s case. All right, fascinating stuff. Joan biskupic on the case, as always, at the Us Supreme Court<\/a>, court has just ended for the day in the hush money case and not the Supreme Court<\/a>. Thats a different chord. Were hearing that theres been another big development. Were going to go right back to that courthouse in manhattan next day with us have you heard sling tv offers the news you love for less weight. You look and sound just like me. Actually i am, you because im the same News Programs<\/a> on sling for less, you mean youre me but for less money, a lot less . Im all your favorite News Programs<\/a> and more on sling starting at just 40 a month. Everything great about me, but for less money, which makes me greater than you think its the same news for less starting at 40 a month whether you come to key west anndepth histy lesson ust want to skim the surface. Keystory is richer more colorful more substantia and cork here than you ever imagined. Key west, close to perfect. 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The jury in this criminal trial. Seven jurors now sworn in this seventh one just came since i last saw you were learning a little bit about this person to civil Litter Litigator<\/a> that lives on the Upper East Side<\/a> and manhattan and married with two kids. It says that he doesnt really know trump at all, doesnt really have an opinion about him so certainly now, again, like i said, progress made as this now seven jurors seated for this historic criminal trial brown jake seven jurors. All right. Yeah. Breakneck speed its bridging, grabs a manhattan. Thanks so much, democratic senator tim kaine and the great Commonwealth Of Virginia<\/a> is here senator, i do have to ask as we watch this breaking news, this historic moment seven jurors have now been seated in the firstever criminal trial of a former president. Whats your take on all of it . Well, its sad that its come to this jake. It really is president is showing the lack of restraint for which he so known attacking the judge, attacking the justice system. We know he doesnt believe in the basic institutions of independent judiciary, rule of law. Hes demonstrating that every day we got our hands full here in congress. And so the trial will take care of itself. Theyll fill out the jury pool on the trial will start. But were in the middle of a stump driven impeachment of the dhs secretary, which we receive the articles of impeachment today will be at trial starting tomorrow. We want to make sure were doing what we can to promote deescalation in the middle east, we got a couple of other items on our shoulders. Its going to be a busy week here. Are you going to have a trial . Well, look, heres my expectation. Were going to have fairly significant debates and motions. I believe at the end of the day, there will be a moon to dismiss the case becausit really is a stunt. Many of my democratic colleagues and many of My Republan Colagues<\/a> in the senate know th jake,ou probably know it as the house was moved Movingo Impeh<\/a> secry mayorkas, the Sete Republicandemanded<\/a> that hd be part the bipartisan netiation, defined bipartan Border Security<\/a> deal with which we did, which they en backed away from when p decided he didnt li it. But when Theenate Republicanare<\/a> king Ali Markas Tbe<\/a> at the tabl theyre demonstrating that they have confidence than him. So this House Impeachment Move<\/a> is a stu, and its going nowhere i wante ask you about whats going on in the hoe youve been calling on speak johnson to bng up this foreign aid bill so it has aid for ukraine, israel, taiwan thes effort to oust him among use republicans summer people are Clinghis A Churchl<\/a> or chamberlain moment for speakejohnson Do Y Make Oft<\/a> all in the senate . 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At least might have tried and then maybehe plan b will be just put the senate bill on the floor, the ves in the house have been there for th bill sends february, while ukraine has been suffering on e battfield and israel is under attack by an the votes youve been there for two months. So lets just have a vote for gods sake. All right. Democric senator tim kaine, virginia. Thanks so muchappreciate it absolutely. Ming up next cnns bi, were in his new book and open letter to his kids giving the nextgeneration future doug hello, ghostbusters. Its duck of dudley moore, we help people customize and Save Hundreds<\/a> on Car Insurance<\/a> with Liberty Mutual<\/a> anyway, we got a bit of a situation sure i can only pay for what you need those clusters, Frozen Empire<\/a> our biggest challenge, uncertainty, hidden fees, surcharges. Who knows what to expect . 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What inspired you to write this book and why do you wake with more wonder than worry . Well, theyre related i wrote this book because i became a new old dad at age 52, height of thpandemic, 2020, ittle boy was , my dahter was 16 at that age and she had influenced the wder list, which had taken some of the most amazing happiest, healthiest, strongest societies around the world. But at this point, i had been covering climate for a couple of years and really had a pretty dark view on the planet that my little boy had joined. I started writing these Earth Day Letters<\/a> and they were pretty dark and angry at the beginning. But when i deliberately strived to focus on the helpers as mr. Rogers told us to do in a disaster, look for the helpers, the dreamers, the doers, the entrepreneurs, started looking for solutions. Boy, my mood brightened and it turns out there was so much out there to be hopeful about new energy streams, new ways of connecting with communities, new ideas, fundamental old ancient wisdom that if employed, can save so much life. There is so much, were saving. And in the end, i ended up collecting dozens of just practical ways to fortify our communities come what may. And because our kids can no longer take sort of air a stable Temperature Shelter<\/a> and food supply for granted. The way we did, we have to rethink these things in a more sustainable, holistic way. And it turns out anxiety into action, which is therapeutic in the end, i think what are some tools that parents out there can give our children to help them rebuild this strong and and Resilient Community<\/a> in this changing climate. When i talk about the fact that one of my biggest regrets is a parents as i gave my daughter olivia an iphone when she was ten years old and showed her how to use instagram. We thought it was a tool to help her connect with her community. And we know now the anxiety cost that came and with that. And so i sound like a Grumpy Old Man<\/a> sitting, put your phone down and get outside, but thats exactly what has to happen. We have to make this generation fall in love with the natural world. Their connection to it, how their health and wealth and happiness depends on the air and water in their communities and connecting with their friends around these very real things. The way indigenous communities did forever, the way humanity did up until recent generations will connect us and be better for our Mental Health<\/a> as well as everything else. So as you know, because you have two kids, including the fantastic olivia, whos who ended up perfect. Even even with her phone as youre the first to say yes theres a lot of depression and pessimism, even nihilism among young people who are worried about the planet, whats your message to them i think that if for people who are thinking about starting a family, if that kid is going to be a net positive, bring them, we need all the goods helpers we can get and for the kids who are born into this good thing, youre tough. Were going to help you stay resilient. Were going to help you build a much stronger, more resilient future. We can do this together dr. King did not say i have a nightmare. They were living nightmare. We have a dream about building a more sustainable, more resilient world and the tools are there for the taking right now, jake, heres a tool, though. Wheres good book . Its called life as we know, it can be stories of people, climate and hoping the changing word world, its an interesting book and its a beautifully written book. Thank you, brother. Thanks. Its gorgeous, open love letter to your kids into our planet, into are shared humanity. Congratulations, bill. Thank you. You can follow this show on accept the lead. Cnn, if you ever miss an episode of the lead, you can listen to the show once you get your podcasts. News continues on cnn with wolf blitzer sure right next door in a place i like to call this a","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia600301.us.archive.org\/28\/items\/CNNW_20240416_210000_The_Lead_With_Jake_Tapper\/CNNW_20240416_210000_The_Lead_With_Jake_Tapper.thumbs\/CNNW_20240416_210000_The_Lead_With_Jake_Tapper_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240703T12:35:10+00:00"}