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CNNW The July 3, 2024

Escalating tit for tat up north and india, the largest democracy in the world. Reporter a brutal murder with all the hallmarks of an assassination. Hardeep singh nijar was a controversial sihk gunned down in front of his place of worship. The canadian government has now said out loud what many are suspected, that there is credible evidence that the killing took place on the orders of the Indian Government. The Government Of India needs to take this matter with the utmost seriousness. We are doing that, we are not looking to provoke or escalate. We are simply laying out the facts as we understand them, and we want to work with the Government Of India. Trudeau says before going public, he confronted india Prime Minister, Narendra Modi with his accusations last week, as modi hosted trudeau and other leaders at the g20 summit. They were allegations the Indian Government refused to accept. The killing of a canadian citizen on canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty. Days later, trudeau stood in Canadas Parliament and let rip his astonishing claim, before expelling the head of indias spy agency in canada. The Indian Government responded in kind, expelling a canadian diplomat and issuing a blunt statement calling the claims absurd and accusing canada of sheltering terrorists and extremists. While the canadian government is leaning on what it describes as credible evidence, the murder remains unsolved. The Royal Canadian mounted police tell cnn this remains a priority investigation. In the last weeks, Police Released photos of a possible get away car looking to identify mass suspects they described as heavier set males. The newest disclosures on this murder have been chilling for many in canadas sihk community. Nijars son says hes satisfied in complicity may be known. Its a sense of relief, its finally coming to the publics eyes that the Indian Government is involved. Reporter a few things to note here, jake, nijar was, in fact, labeled a terrorist by the Indian Government. They said he was basically trying to break up india because he was a supporter and a leader in the Sikh Separatist Movement in india. This is a dangerous fault line in indian politics, but now it has embroiled canada, and i have to point out, jake, india as you well know is the center piece of the indopacific strategy, right, that Counter Weight to china for the Biden Administration. Biden was informed of all of this at the g20 before by trudeau personally, before trudeau made his accusations public, and thats a good indication that everyone knows the stakes here. Not just for canadian policy but for u. S. Policy as well. All right. Paula newton in the Canadian Capital of ottawa, thank you so much. Lets bring in National Security spokesperson, john kirby. You heard the report on Justin Trudeau saying the Government Of India carried out an assassination in canada. Trudeau says he raised this with President Biden privately before going public. What did trudeau tell biden . Well, look, im going to protect diplomatic conversations, ill leave it at that. Certainly the president is mindful of these serious allegations and they are rr serious, and we support canadas effort to investigate this. We believe a fully transparent, comprehensive investigation is the right approach so that we can all know exactly what happened and of course we encourage india to cooperate with that. So canada is part of the five eyes spying networks, right, the u. S. Shares intelligence. Does the United States have the intelligence that trudeau is using . Does the u. S. Know what exactly trudeau is basing these claims on . I think you can understand, jake, im going to be careful about what i say here to preserve the sanctity of the investigation and leave it for canada to talk about the Underpinning Information here, and what more theyre trying to learn. We want to respect that process and its their investigation. If it is true, if it can be proven that indias Prime Minister, modi, ordered an assassination of an individual on canadian sovereign land, what repercussions should there be . Well, again, lets not get ahead of where we are. Theres an active investigation. We think it needs to be fully transparent and comprehensive. We know the canadians will work to that end. We urge india to cooperate with that investigation so that the facts can take investigators where they go, and then once we have all the facts and we have conclusions that we can draw from that, then you can start to look at recommendations or behaviors you might want to pursue. The New York Times is reporting that the Biden Administration and saudi officials are discussing terms of a mutual Defense Treaty that would resemble what u. S. Has with two of its closest allies, with japan, and with south korea, which are democracies in hopes that we get saudi arabia to normalize relations with israel. Are we able to share any details on . Theres no agreed framework working toward normalization. I would say we continue to encourage both sides to pursue normalization. Normalization for israel is not only good for israel and the israeli people but the region writ large. It will make a more cooperative stable middle east. We also have and will continue to work with saudi arabia on their defense needs. They have real defense needs. Theres been an 18month truce in yemen. Thats good. There hasnt been as much violence across the border into saudi arabia. We know saudi arabia has legitimate defense needs. Were going to work with them for the future and seeing what the architecture can look like going forward. Can the United States have a similar Defense Treaty with saudi arabia that it has with democracies such as south korea and japan . Saudi arabia is not a democracy. It has an atrocious human rights record. The u. N. Has said that the saudiled war in yemen, you noted the cease fire, but its resulted in mass killings of civilians, one of the worst manmade crises in the world, and the killing of Washington Post journalist Jamal Ka Hashoggi Wa ordered by mbs. Lets remind our viewers of what canada said on the campaign trail. We were going to make them pay the price and make them the pariah that they are. Theres very little social redeeming value in the present government in saudi arabia. He sounds very different when he talks about saudi arabia today. Well, look, theres no question that saudi arabia is a strategic partner, has been for some 80 decades. Its also no question, as you show, the president hasnt been bashful about expressing our concerns with saudi behavior. That is strategic partnership. We want to keep moving forward. We need to do that. There have been repercussions for saudi arabia. The president declassified the information around the khashoggi killing. We need to also look at the future of the middle east and what that needs to look like, not just for the saudi people, the israeli people but for american National Security interests. I dont want to get ahead of where these discussions are, jake, but these are important discussi discussions and kwwere going t have them with our allies. And. I dont know what repercussions youre talking about. Take a look at this photo of President Biden from a few days ago with crown prince mohammad bin salman, biden is shaking his hand, smiling at him. Was the president bummed that the photo was made public . This is actually not the one i was talking about. Theres another one where biden is looking at mbs and smiling at him. Was the president Bummed The Photo was made public. The president shook his hand. He shook a lot of hands at the g20. It was a gathering of significant World Leaders to work on problems that we can all try to solve for people around the world including infrastructure, investment, and economic Multilateral Development banks. Theres a lot that was discussed. Crown prince was a part of those discussions, and the president was happy to have a range of discussions with World Leaders to awful of those ends. President biden in his speech at the u. N. Promised to continue to speak with ukraine. And could disrupt ailed to ukraine, which could come at a critical time as ukrainian troops are in the middle of this counter offensive, how worried are you about a possible shut down and its impact. A shutdown is not good for anybody. Its going to hurt our economy. Were going to make sure it doesnt affect our National Security. The National Security apparatus continues to function as it must, and we continue to defend our National Security interests. We dont want to see impact on supplemental funding for ukraine. We have asked for 24 billion of defense related Security Assistance for ukraine, and this supplemental, which i remind you only gets us through the First Quarter of the fiscal year. Its likely we need to talk to congress about additional funding going forward. Thats important. As the president laid out in his speech today, what happens in ukraine isnt just affecting ukraine, its affecting the european continent. It could potentially affect in greater ways our own National Security, so its important that we rally the International Community and members of congress to continue to support ukraine. John kirby, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Lets turn to cnn diplomatic editor, nic robertson. What mr. Kirby told me about canada, trudeau saying the Government Of India carried out the assassination. Biden did reference this in his speech before the u. N. Today . Yeah, he did. You raised the point of the five eyes, the countries, United States, canada, uk, australia, all sharing intelligence, what one sees the other sees, five eyes, thats how it works. Its mutual understanding, and therefore a mutual effort against the same threat. But it was interesting that President Biden did say in his speech today when he was talking about the values of human rights, he said the values of human rights essentially cant be ignored, whether theyre in xinjiang or toronto. When do people Start Talking about human rights in frtoronto. It seems to me he gets whats going on. The british Prime Minister as well has talked to the canadians and he is also concerned about the allegations that theyre making about india. So it does seem to me that john kirby, not able to speak publicly about what the five eyes shares, but i think we can understand that President Biden is aware. Yeah, it seems to me that trudeau wouldnt have said it publicly unless he was pretty clear and sure of the charge and that President Biden wouldnt have said that if he hadnt been at least a little familiar with the intelligence. What do you make of what kirby said about the Biden Administration and saudi officials discussing terms of a mutual Defense Treaty. I think he said it all there, the 18 months of cease fire in yemen, thats a positive, right. You try to point out that mbs was Defense Minister at the time, that precipitated that war in 2015, very costly in terms of lives. Again, an indication from kirby that this is something thats important. Well work with saudi arabia on their concerns, and the United States, the reality here is the United States is still the number one preferred choice for saudi arabia for security. They want a lot, and this is really seen as a time by mbs when he can get a good bargain from President Biden, he wants some sort of legacy, and that would be some sort of middle east peace would be good, and it does seem that mbs sees this moment in time as an opportunity that he needs as well because he needs that pat on the back, if you will, for the United States. He needs to show his country, because his fathers not well, and he will soon be king one day, that he can deal with the United States effectively for the security of saudi arabia. Theres a mutual interest there, and i think john kirby was reflecting that interest. I think his language really spoke to the fact that the days of President Bidens inaugural speech and what he said about saudi arabia then being a pariah, that was then. Now is different. Yeah, nick roe robertson, th you so much. 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President duda, while you and i are spe speaking, russia is attacking ukraine. Just today, russia launched strikes on lviv, which is close to polands border with ukraine. You have spoken at length about putins imperial ambitions not stopping with ukraine. How worried are you that a nato country could be next, including poland . Translator of course we are very well aware that there is a threat. I keep reminding all the time that in 2008 when russians invaded georgia, the polish president back then said that russian imperialism was reborn, and that unless we stop russia, unless the countries of the west, the democratic countries stop russia, then probably we will see a tax on ukraine then, perhaps on the Baltic States skand then as he said, in my country, poland. These words are as valid as they were. In 2014, putin attacked ukraine. In 2020, 22, on the 24th of february, russia invaded ukraine. It was a fullscale invasion, and today it occupies a huge part of its territory so the war is going on all the time. It will be impossible to stop the imperial ambitions of putin of russia. Then this person is mistaken. Russia can be stopped only if it is defeated and it will be defeated when ukraine pushes out the russian army from the occupied territories thanks to the help of the United States, thanks to the help of the west, and when it regains control over its internationally recognized borders, only then we will be able to say that russian imperialism was really defeated and successfully pushed back, that the order has been restored. Right now, it is questionable that a majority of republicans

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